nocode on edc15p+ vag 1.4 tdi

[andrea.motors]

hi all could someone give me a hand with this scodifica? I have no way of calculating the cks to make it in total with my programs (which I say do both e2p that flash..) but first of all, not being able to find the ecu with the same number hw I wanted to ask if anyone knows if the one I found and compatible: some people say that the son all while others.. no data are:
-ecu-original: 0 281 010 865 cod vag 045 906 019AP edc15p+22.4.2
-ecu replacement: 0 281 011 074 cod vag 045 906 019BB edc15p+22.4.2
thanks to all the info

[egs]

Look, on the EDC 15P+ scodifica total is also only on the e2prom. 0 281 010 865 this ? a polo 1.4 TDI, 0 281 011 074 this ? a seat ibiza is always 1.4 TDI, right? to ****s horses are the same?

[andrea.motors]

I don't know exactly why I found myself in a collapse, among other 1000 units.. on esi tronic me, always there for each pole, the same kw, for ibiza I have not checked

[legendaryslave]

read and post the contents of the 24c04 is the total

[andrea.motors]

if you need I have the file of the original ecu, that of the collapse, I would not have taken it because I wanted to first find out if it was compatible because they were already a not fare well, then that file I... I don't know if you can, then put the mod file in the e2p original on the e2p in the middle of the collapse, because of the frame and the other codes are present in the processor... am I wrong?

[vic64it]

copy the contents of the 24c04 the original on the belly

[andrea.motors]

l I had already tried and was not even l pump :( this on the first ecu tried.. I tried to replace the e2p with the original car, then scodificare the file but without result

[felix]

but the ecu in question are the same ?

[andrea.motors]

that to me is I have a file with this data: l original: number of the chip 1037366254 cks 693F
from belly-up: number of the chip 1037363954 cks 67D3. internally I don't know why today I checked another that internally it was a little different

[vic64it]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand, you've replaced the 24c04 and then you scodificata?

[felix]

if you need to do the cloning, the ecu should be the same

[chicco]

According to me if the ports eeprom and flash from the original to the one you found, you need to have no problem, I did some tests with the edc15p+ on a new beetle, and the mass in motion with a control unit of the polo shirt, 3-cylinder, naturally, went to 3, and also with an order of burst busted for? ? game.

[andrea.motors]

me tell you a little story.... the original station is not reading the sensor phase, and made the backup of the e2p and flash player to the tour (as well as mpps). the colleague (the car and at the workshop to a colleague) he found an ecu with a different code and I told him, and rightly, that I don't know if you could fit... convinced me to take the test, and the first was to replace the e2p from the ecu is original to that of the collapse... after mounted not turned, not even the pump... I tried to do a delete code from flash and e2p but I am stuck for the way of the calculation of the cecksum.. a colleague has tried, then the only file e2p but without result... this morning, the colleague had also tried to take a picture, the central and key to the other pole (and this ecu was not equal to the first of the shambles it to the original) but the indicator code and the glow plugs flashing and as immo is not recognized, started and died. I have heard many of my colleagues and some say that the plants are all equal and who is not, then before taking the last ecu I wanted to be sure if compatible or not with the original, otherwise it ends up that is machine becomes a joke :)

[andrea.motors]

I also tried the grain, I also tried to rewrite everything on two new supports, but the car would not start

[andrea.motors]

if you need to do the cloning, the ecu should be the same

I think too because the control of the cks would be different

[vic64it]

I have a ecu for this engine, but I don't remember the number bosch, if you are interested I'll give you the immo off, and you still tell

[chicco]

you can enter the diagnosis in the engine control unit?in the dash you will find for the case of error communication ecu?to me ? success that after scodificato the ecu of the car as they have stolen the dash and then the replaced with one of the belly-up the machine ? game well then you are set to tinker on some of the wires of the dashboard and the car does not ? pi? game, do not enter into the diagnosis and in the dash, there is communication error ecu, I tried to restore the eeprom, the flash was ok but light is the glow plugs on the dash turned off and no communication, so first I tried with the ecu of the polo 3cilindri that I had in the house and when I saw that the problem ? I have procured an ecu of a golf with the same engine type, and even if the numbers were completely different and the game is traveling.

[chicco]

These type of ecu control of the chk they only do it in flash and then when the chk ? right in the flash, then you don't have any problem, ? pi? likely that the eeprom after scodificata should be coupled with the flash.

[andrea.motors]

in the diagnosis within me and from the engine control unit, locked, in the dashboard I don't have errors related to immo... but I just do not have errors...

[andrea.motors]

These type of ecu control of the chk they only do it in flash and then when the chk ? right in the flash, then you don't have any problem, ? pi? likely that the eeprom after scodificata should be coupled with the flash.

it is, in fact, they told me that to be cloned c and need the ecu with the same code hardware and software... and a chain... if the e2p and different from the flash on, then go put together, and if the flash has a cks different from the one stored in the processor may go but to the first control cks or off, or by failure...

[andrea.motors]

but in the end, in these cases, finding a central with that code, the hardware should proceed with the vag dashcom put the immo off or generate a file, no code... I'm doing a bit of confusion about why some of the process the only e2p and others, like me, devon process both e2p that flash with recalculation cks....

[chicco]

but according to me, the chk in these ecu not ? written in the micro-otherwise when you do a remap you should also fix the chk in the micro, I have taken the eeprom and flash a new beetle and I put in an ecu of a polo shirt with 3 cylinders hw and sw completely different and I put in motion the beetle if it were as you say, you would not be party.

[chicco]

I have tried only the eeprom and ? was enough.

[vic64it]

if you do the search with ****** you can find the ecu with the same hw I have verified at this time

[andrea.motors]

then I ask myself, (sorry if I make too many questions but I'm trying to clarify in my mind bugged, now) if the processor does not perform any calculation cks on the flash for what reason all of the programs that I have forces me to re-calculate? and having also cloned in this way, the first plant for which reasons may not be the game?

[andrea.motors]

if you do the search with ****** you can find the ecu with the same hw I have verified at this time

on the web I found several. it was to speed up the timing with the ecu that I would be available here, and to clarify some points on these ecu... are a novice with the scodifiche and I still have a lot to learn

[vic64it]

the processor is the control of the cecksum on the flash, in fact, when you rimappano and the check is wrong, the car does not start and does not communicate even in the diagnosis, 24c04, and is written to the vin and the ID of the immo. Let it be the flash, and focused on the immo.

[chicco]

the processor in this case verifies that the chk is correct, but the chk exact ? written in the micro ? the flash that tells the micro that must be the chk, and then if you move the flash from one ecu to another, you do not have problems,(we always talk about for this type of ecu) but if you change the map and not fix the chk, the flash tells the micro that must have a value, but the micro is a another as by changing the map changes the chk(in a way that elementary ? the sum of all the values in the flash and then changing the values changes the result of the sum), and then not part of it.Not the best in explaining I hope that you understood, if nonti I have done more? confusion!

[andrea.motors]

there are, I'm so sorry bean.... if and flash to tell the micro what the cks how does the micro to understand if, and to the right, or less if not c written to the cks of feedback?... ditto if you correct the map, and logically changes the cks how does the micro of it if it has written within it? at the end of the cks another is not that a ****llo of protection that had been created to protect the ecu by tampering with the software, a bit like now they have pulled out the block of the processor trionic on some edc17... but if it has no feedback to the processor then I don't think it has much sense to calculate it.... right or wrong totally reasoning

[vic64it]

I agree with you grain also if you have not been the maximum in the description ;), in fact, I checked now on the program and to make the scodifica total you have to reprogram both the 24c04 and the 29f400

[vic64it]

guys, according to me, here we are losing too much on the theoretical discourses.

[chicco]

the micro reads from the flash the chk who wants to, in principle, the calculation of the chk worked in this way:the sum of all the values of the memory gave, for example, as a result 3FA, this value was written in an area of memory that the micro was going to see, and reading all the memory was the sum, checking that the result was the desired one, so usually if you got up in the curve of gasoline, and they came to value 4FC of chk was to lower an area of the eprom that is not used(it was usually a area all to FF)until the cel came 3FA, on the ecu vag with 2 plcc, the control unit read from the memory only at power on, so much so that when I used the emulator with the first software that does not correct the chk in real-time finch? the car was in motion you could do all the modifications cher you wanted to but if spegnevi the car to get the bike you had to force reload the in-memory maps with the value of chk is correct, then they started to implement control of the chk periodic every certain period of time and simple chk(the miserable sum) is processed with different algorithms.

[chicco]

I, however, on the new beetle with edc15p+ I have tried only the 24c04 with the program vagimmo edc15 and I had no problems, however, are aware that on some ecu vag you have to render both why? functions, on the other remains the light on, on the other hand you don't enter the pi? in diagnosis, I have had cu.. and ? game without any light and I can even enter the diagnosis.

[andrea.motors]

ok there are and I understood, finally, how it is performed the correction, thank you very much you were very clear grain :) in fact, he's also right vic saying that we are going too much on the theoretical, I ask that you perdinarmi but I hate to put a hand to something that I know little about or do not understand, and until now I did, unfortunately, so... in fact I miss a lot of the theoretical part on the electronic digital (not analog, I was a electrical years ago and am fond of the low frequency tube amps for the precision :) )

[vic64it]

then andrew that we were we take stock of the situation? if you want I can help you, I told you that I have a ecu vag 1.4 edc 15p and then I also have a obdii cable that manages to put off the immo saddles edc15p or even clonarle

[andrea.motors]

I, however, on the new beetle with edc15p+ I have tried only the 24c04 with the program vagimmo edc15 and I had no problems, however, are aware that on some ecu vag you have to render both why? functions, on the other remains the light on, on the other hand you don't enter the pi? in diagnosis, I have had cu.. and ? game without any light and I can even enter the diagnosis.

and these are the things that I don't understand this "work" (with the quotation marks, for me as they are at the beginning). not c, and a logic operation consistent.. example: the machine and this, the ecu, and this.... it makes total with this procedure, and in part with other quest.... at the end from the ecu to the ecu the procedure can change, some of the light to other flashes some do not enter diagnosis.... some just only do the e2p other flash.... then from eci to the ecu something safe and that changes

[andrea.motors]

then andrew that we were we take stock of the situation? if you want I can help you, I told you that I have a ecu vag 1.4 edc 15p and then I also have a obdii cable that manages to put off the immo saddles edc15p or even clonarle

you have sent thee mp l have you read?
with regard to the obdii cable is only edc15?

[chicco]

But the backup memory of the ecu ori you?The eeprom ? was read before passing it on to the other ecu otherwise now you can find all corrupted, the other ecus may having written over something.

[andrea.motors]

I made 3 backup first with the serial, then after that I open it I have backed up both of the e2p that of the flash, I also have the backup of the e2p of the other 2 ecu try. I have read all of the tour with gq

[chicco]

then according to me you should not have problems to restore to another ecu, the one you found is fine for me.

[vic64it]

I have now read your pm, however, the cable you I can pay without problems, for the ecu tomorrow, check the numbers and let you know but don't ask for much, I would like to only retrieve the money that I spent at the auction on the baya

[andrea.motors]

I assume that at this point a vagcom or something to serve me, and also because I have a bora in the works (of which I have opened a topic) and if it's the do I have to use them as well.. so if I see that I can serve it to you through his prophets directly, are not very inclined to borrow :) risk myself in debt for a long time then :) for the central then I'll know tomorrow anyway because I have called at dinner time and told me that maybe the customer takes the car so.... let's hope not....

[vic64it]

the cable is not the vag com but it's called vag ecu tool, didn't do many things ,to buy it new it costs so much and is just a rip-off,it only works with the edc15p and M. And 7, and then I took the rip off then I don't see why I should give a rip off to you. If you need to you soon with no problems, OK?

[andrea.motors]

hi guys I called the colleague telling me that unfortunately the customer and drove the car with the tow truck.. thank you all for the info, collaboration and the availability prestatemi :)

[glittering chiffon party dress.fitted]

I had the same problem a few months ago with ecu seat,replaced with ecu w polo the same and I ? enough only to move the 24c02 and the car ? game while with the scodificA total only 24C02 work not ? successful.

[glittering chiffon party dress.fitted]

I fix 24c04 excuse me

[andrea.motors]

hello glittering chiffon party dress.fitted, but the bosch code was the same?

[glittering chiffon party dress.fitted]

Andrea we already? spoke by phone to the ecu were the same as I have just moved to the e2p and the car ? game while scodificando only the 24c04 the car ? game.

[andrea.motors]

I'm sorry, I wasn't sure if it was with the same code.. if you are looking for in your file, c file, and a blocconotes where there are matches to auto - flash type - number processor-family cks and them there are several edc15p+

[Already]

qquando is the total, you need to disconnect the antennino or something else?

[legendaryslave]

qquando is the total, you need to disconnect the antennino or something else?

no you should not unplug nothing loads the file, and via ir? what else do you need to delete the light in the picture

[Already]

What has this scodifica not v?? 3 software are the same. For? ? a golf with edc15p+

[sumi1]

I cannot see, but if you do it with meucci from 24c04 are good to go .