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hackgen
19-03-2013, 10:38
Hello to all, I will tell you a little of my experience if it can be useful to someone else:

In days past, I had to read a map to a friend with a fiat dobl? 1.3 mj 85cv.

Marelli Hardware Number MJD6F3HW03R
Fiat Identifacation Number 6F3.D1

At first I tried to read the map with mpps v12 in different modes?:
Data-only, full, low, medium and high speed.
The result is always the same, a file 452 kb (Not gave no read error), as I use
a preparer professional for the changes, sent the file he told me that it had not been read properly, I started studying a little thing, I also tried to open the le with ecm2001 but in fact gave me an error (I believe that in reality? the file is incomplete, but not wrong as with Winols I managed to read it as well if at the moment there caspisco very little, I have to study).

I could use in any way the part of the map extracted?

To make a long story short at the end I used magpro mode? recovery and I was able to pull the map from the 2 Mb always via serial, made luca stanca and deleted the erg I reloaded the map with magpro.

I have 2 questions for the more experienced to begin to understand:

1) I could not download the map from the vehicle and use an original map or on the original map should be added to the information that uniquely identify the vehicle? if yes, which? and how?

2) between the information which could be useful for the research of an original map?
is someone able to give him a name and a surname of the following items?

Fiat Hawdware Number 517929**
Marelli Hardware Number MJD6F3HW03R
Marelli Hardware Id 00
Marelli Software Number 305*****
Marelli Software Id 0000
Fiat Identifacation Number 6F3.D1
Fiat Iso Code 680*****
Fiat Tester Number
Programming Date 10/11/2006


Thanks to all , see you soon

felix
21-03-2013, 14:14
sorry x the reading and writing you could safely use the bdm at least you're quiet , then by the number ecu you can search for the orig file and then write only

giarras
21-03-2013, 14:27
so, you had several options?:
given that you've talked before about the mpps, it was enough to find in the network the file ori I think you need the, MJD6F3HW03R Num SW: 3058D166 that are the data that you get when you make the id,because you can't read with mpps, did the changes that you were interested in, and cut them to the file to 1 mb, you will find the guide in the forum, or as you have done with magpro, or better in the bdm. anyway, the data that you needed x research were MJD6F3HW03R Num SW: 3058D166.

hackgen
21-03-2013, 14:38
sorry x the reading and writing you could safely use the bdm at least you're quiet , then by the number ecu you can search for the orig file and then write only
I have not yet bdm I will be arriving in a few days.

hackgen
21-03-2013, 14:41
thanks a lot ok understood.

For information purposes, to divide, I tried cut and paste the ecm seems to be ok,
while to join as mag I create 2 files, use Concatenate?

Thanks


so, you had several options?:
given that you've talked before about the mpps, it was enough to find in the network the file ori I think you need the, MJD6F3HW03R Num SW: 3058D166 that are the data that you get when you make the id,because you can't read with mpps, did the changes that you were interested in, and cut them to the file to 1 mb, you will find the guide in the forum, or as you have done with magpro, or better in the bdm. anyway, the data that you needed x research were MJD6F3HW03R Num SW: 3058D166.

giarras
21-03-2013, 14:44
thanks a lot ok understood.

For information purposes, to divide, I tried cut and paste the ecm seems to be ok,
while to join as mag I create 2 files, use Concatenate?

Thanks

but..you don't need to reconvene the file xch? if gi? you have proceeded to divide it to 2 mb you keep it down? one size only x mpps.

hackgen
21-03-2013, 14:44
thanks a lot ok understood.

For information purposes, to divide, I tried cut and paste the ecm seems to be ok,
while to join as mag I create 2 files, use Concatenate?

Thanks

Let me explain better mag in the reading I generates two files, the 2-mega ? the map
and then a file *.mpc from 531kb , what ??, in writing, use only 2 mb?

thanks

giarras
21-03-2013, 14:49
you have to make the changes only in the 2-mb and rewrite it.

sportknight
21-03-2013, 15:08
the magpro then able to read the marelli? or is he the virtual reading?

hackgen
21-03-2013, 15:09
you have to make the changes only in the 2-mb and rewrite it.
Perfect. That other stuff ?, did you know?
I ask you one other thing, I have explained how to locate the original map from the reading of the single ecu
and the cio? via the hardware unit and the software version will ask you now:

1)once you have identified the hardware, in this case, MJD6F3HW03R the software must be the one given in the reading of the ecu cio? 3058D166 or I identifies
the software release installed on the car, and then I could put the latest one that inglibi updates
of the manufacturer?

2) Without reading the map once you have identified the values that I need to understand what'? the original corresponding
if the exhaust from the online database I can insert it directly or in the map there are the unique information of the
vehicle type chassis etc, I don't think no.


thanks, excuse me, they start to maybe do a bit of confusion.

hackgen
21-03-2013, 15:10
Read perfectly, only that you must have the foresight to use speed? low then recovery mode.

I hope this information was useful.


the magpro then able to read the marelli? or is he the virtual reading?

hackgen
21-03-2013, 15:11
I have version 4.2


Read perfectly, only that you must have the foresight to use speed? low then recovery mode.

I hope this information was useful.

sportknight
21-03-2013, 15:11
the map with the mpps can easily insert a condition that is cut to 1mb as a guide

sportknight
21-03-2013, 15:12
I believed that the 6f3 with the serial you could only write,be,better, cos?!!

sportknight
26-03-2013, 23:10
sorry guys,with the mppsv5 I'm trying to play with a 6f3 to the tour but I can not do the ecuid,why?

sportknight
26-03-2013, 23:11
mm,I know that should be used can line but I can't find the pinout can, therefore,someone has?

hackgen
27-03-2013, 12:41
I mpps 12 I had no problems to read the ecu via the serial port.


sorry guys,with the mppsv5 I'm trying to play with a 6f3 to the tour but I can not do the ecuid,why?

matteo87
28-03-2013, 19:50
so, you had several options?:
given that you've talked before about the mpps, it was enough to find in the network the file ori I think you need the, MJD6F3HW03R Num SW: 3058D166 that are the data that you get when you make the id,because you can't read with mpps, did the changes that you were interested in, and cut them to the file to 1 mb, you will find the guide in the forum, or as you have done with magpro, or better in the bdm. anyway, the data that you needed x research were MJD6F3HW03R Num SW: 3058D166.
To me the split file to 1 mb it has not worked! on the contrary, at 43%? blocked everything! luckily there was a friend with cock ori and I managed to capture the control unit!

sportknight
28-03-2013, 20:30
I mpps 12 I had no problems to read the ecu via the serial port.

the 70cv the read and write but the others are not...the only write

Danny
29-03-2013, 01:34
I the first time I wasn't able to read it to me ? closed MPPS, but I think it depended on the fact that it was about Seven...luckily now I have XP.
Ah, I tried to read a Swift 69 hp. 1433Y196 how to code the ecu. The second time however, the reading went well... :) maybe Tomorrow I try to write it, even if I fear not a little.