fuel injection kit water and methanol

[gennantsub]

I have heard of these kits ,but I'd like to hear the opinions of someone who has mounted :)
I've always liked the idea of these kits type the NOS that give you that extra bit of power,like in the movie COBRA when the Stallion hit the button and its mercury monterey 1951, takes off :D
it paliamo ? ;)

[munro]

on what would fit? diesel, gasoline? remember that inject water and methanol does not have the same effect of the nos....
this system is used to keep the engine temperature under control when we go round "l?" with the power...then you do not have an effect of "extra power" we say instant and direct as the nos.....

[cicciogsr]

I would add that becomes necessary when the pressure of the turbocharger touch the stars... type in the cars for the races on the 1300 m

[gennantsub]

on what would fit? diesel, gasoline? remember that inject water and methanol does not have the same effect of the nos....
this system is used to keep the engine temperature under control when we go round "l?" with the power...then you do not have an effect of "extra power" we say instant and direct as the nos.....

[luigigtc]

it seems to me that a trainer that I can't remember the name, used this solution, calling it acquamist, remember?

[SandroMarciano]

Acquamist ? a brand of these objects

[luigigtc]

and if I remember correctly, an increase in max performance 20%, and in those turbocharged is injected into the water only to keep the temperature of the engine more? low, ensuring a good affiidabilit

[LucaGT]

Hi guys,

I used Aquamist 2d System in my Punto GT.
Mixture 50%-50%.

I used to again, the temperatures of the exhaust gas and to have a better combustion.

With the water injection you can again, or the intake air temperature (by mounting the injector, the more near the intercooler possible), or a progressive lowering of the temperature of the exhaust gas(by mounting it to the nearest possible to the butterfly).
You can, of course, vary.

Another effect and the increase of the compression in the cylinder, because the water can not be comprimata.

[CiccioBr]

Hello LucaGT, you have more information? Type photos, videos, etc of the change and of the benefits if you have installed thermometers, etc, etc? Test power???
Thanks

[LucaGT]

Hello Friends,

Photos don't have one.
Anyway, there was nothing great to spieghare. I have mounted the injector some 30 cm in front of the butterfly.
With the 2d system of the Aquamist you have a pressure switch with here, the system is activated. Then, on the basis of the duty cycle of the valves is inietatto the mixture.

This and the "difficult", there is also the normal system only with the switch. The injector remains open after the pressure is adjusted.

Power I did not have at the most only with the system water injection. And that with this system you can go higher with the pressure, temperature,...
We say that the mixture between water injection and other modification is the effect.

[CiccioBr]

Hello Friends,

Photos don't have one.
Anyway, there was nothing great to spieghare. I have mounted the injector some 30 cm in front of the butterfly.
With the 2d system of the Aquamist you have a pressure switch with here, the system is activated. Then, on the basis of the duty cycle of the valves is inietatto the mixture.

This and the "difficult", there is also the normal system only with the switch. The injector remains open after the pressure is adjusted.

Power I did not have at the most only with the system water injection. And that with this system you can go higher with the pressure, temperature,...
We say that the mixture between water injection and other modification is the effect.


Thanks Luke,
? from the years that I follow this system (from when you spoke only on some american site, but unfortunately, I never got to experience it on my skin....
Cmq ? interesting as a change, the only thing that I still don't know ? if these particles of water in the long run ruin something in the combustion chamber...

[LucaGT]

The people that I know I have not had any problems in the bedroom, on the contrary, the clean, you don't have any residue on the inside(I don't know how is entitled technicamente in Italian).

Here a link on a page in German as he mounted his injection acqau DIY:
http://www.fiat-uno-forever.de/Technik/waes.html

I still monterei the injector directly on the tube, without the use of that tube.
On the contrary, if you use it to lower the die temperature exhaust gas, the monterei directly on the body farafallato.

[minijuri]

the water does not cause harm, and why? in there you put the tap water but distilled , the cio? free of mineral salts, etc, etc .

Time ago, I wanted to put it on my car , the problem ? that ? true that temperatures are ok , but the pressure increases and the fuel mixture smagrisce , so you have to edit the map . And so far everything is ok ,

then for? when it finishes the mix and how do you put the previous map ? ? difficult to make a dual mapping on the ecu , then you must change the ecu right ?

[demolitionMan]

the water does not cause harm, and why? in there you put the tap water but distilled , the cio? free of mineral salts, etc, etc .

Time ago, I wanted to put it on my car , the problem ? that ? true that temperatures are ok , but the pressure increases and the fuel mixture smagrisce , so you have to edit the map . And so far everything is ok ,

then for? when it finishes the mix and how do you put the previous map ? ? difficult to make a dual mapping on the ecu , then you must change the ecu right ?


on edc15 you can put a switch to a switch that allows you to change the map! BUT you CAN'T do IT ON EDC 16.

[minijuri]

I have the edc 15 a siemens ems2 , could you tell me kindly how can I do ? In pm or wherever you want thanks a lot .

[minijuri]

changing the eprom with a large double ?

[LucaGT]

To me the iniezine was enabled to 0.8 bar.
Also from then on, and touched the map.
If I had more mixture not the I more :D
Or was trying to stay under 0.8 bar.

[minijuri]

understood understood , even as you say ? very feasible , one thing , I found an eprom of my car to do experiments , I want to put an eprom in parallel to the other , with the power at my command . The Cio? the car turned off I decide which eprom food, and then which of the two maps , by means of a switch

the ecu ? edc 15

[minijuri]

pu? work ?

[SandroMarciano]

On edc 15 you could change the mapping by mounting a special EPROM that contained 2 of the aloentech if I remember correctly, but you lose the chance? to write to the ECU from the serial port.
When the end of the water there are cos? so much problems, just avoid doing pull prolonged... The diesel engine does not suffer from smagrimenti!

[minijuri]

[SandroMarciano]

OK, but before you were talking about edc15, and this ECU ? only used on diesel engines...

[minijuri]

nono, my ? a siemens ems2 edc 15 they told me it was edc 15

[gennantsub]

I found these photos if they can affect 35883589
Hello LucaGT, you have more information? Type photos, videos, etc of the change and of the benefits if you have installed thermometers, etc, etc? Test power???
Thanks

[munro]

[munro]

[cattivik]

Hi guys,

I used Aquamist 2d System in my Punto GT.
Mixture 50%-50%.

I used to again, the temperatures of the exhaust gas and to have a better combustion.



With the water injection you can again, or the intake air temperature (by mounting the injector, the more near the intercooler possible), or a progressive lowering of the temperature of the exhaust gas(by mounting it to the nearest possible to the butterfly).
You can, of course, vary.

Another effect and the increase of the compression in the cylinder, because the water can not be comprimata.


I use these kits since 2006 and I must say they are excellent!
Only drawback is that tanks are often small, and then you often have to make the topping, although now I use them in my configuration that enables me to stand full of water.
The better method ? place the injector mechanical 10 cm from the intake manifold trying to use the jet pi? in accord with our usage. To make best use of this kit, I use a pressure switch in cn, in which I decide the minimum pressure of the turbo that makes it operate and the whole system the food to a key that cn ON/OFF key to disarm the system when no I need!
The benefits of this system as well as to maintain optimal temperatures in the virt? pressure of the turbocharger is a high or critical have an effect puli-vapor of the warm side of the head,the cio? removes slag and fouling from the exhaust valves.

On the diesel board a 30% of the maximum volume of methanol to the full the tank is. In addition? easy to even if you turn off the car the motor is in the way finch? nn disposes of all of the methanol.

[sighline]

Having read almost all the posts I have not figured out if this kit is compatible with all turbo diesel, independently from the type of the ecu..

[SandroMarciano]

Having read almost all the posts I have not figured out if this kit is compatible with all turbo diesel, independently from the type of the ecu..

absolutely yes, because? ? completely independent from the ecu...

[cattivik]

of course... like all the changes he had of evolution, but just think that its first automotive application ? been on group B where c' was still the shot mechanics or the first control units............

[Emanu88]

[anniver]

Because water,to raise the temperature caused by the combustion of gasoline becoming steam from all the oxygen that sovralimenta burning the already completed from the gas