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Hello Masters, a friend has modified the file of my car excluding egr+dfp, and modifying the map.
I have not yet written to the ecu why? I am waiting for the pipe to replace the DPF and I would like your opinion about it.
I have to say that I still do not understand a tube map therefore? I kindly ask you to be explicit and simple in their opinions, avoiding technicalities.
I want to know if it goes well, though ? done properly and if it is actually the drive to get better? in reliability, performance and consumption.
Thanks
Chris156
07-03-2013, 15:29
what can I say... try it...sure the difference you'll feel it..but ? been made confusing to interpret some pararmetri...
what can I say... try it...sure the difference you'll feel it..but ? been made confusing to interpret some pararmetri...
In that sense, sorry, I do some damage?
msport (exil77grande)
07-03-2013, 15:41
apart from the egr,rail pressure and rail pressure limiter for me it's all redo it,I would add that before touching maps strange you should figure out how to work the traditional ones, and to know how to change.
Chris156
07-03-2013, 16:07
let's say that lately I'm noticing the motto " the more you touch the better ?"!!!
not ? so, if you want to map by touching only the limiters of diesel goes very well, but you have to know where everything is, otherwise if it touches only 2 no avail.. same thing for the pedal, and the torque and its conversion..if the maximum amount that you would like to get to 450 nm (hypothetical) and then I change the conversion to inject more than 100mm3 when the max reaches 90mm3 about ? something totally meaningless and useless.
leaving out the rest... I've seen worse around...
Ps: 2.5 degrees of advance are a bit too many for the diesel given..
let's say that lately I'm noticing the motto " the more you touch the better ?"!!!
not ? so, if you want to map by touching only the limiters of diesel goes very well, but you have to know where everything is, otherwise if it touches only 2 no avail.. same thing for the pedal, and the torque and its conversion..if the maximum amount that you would like to get to 450 nm (hypothetical) and then I change the conversion to inject more than 100mm3 when the max reaches 90mm3 about ? something totally meaningless and useless.
leaving out the rest... I've seen worse around...
Ps: 2.5 degrees of advance are a bit too many for the diesel given..
Unfortunately, as I write above, I do not understand anything of the maps it has made me a friend assuring me a good job: how about I jump the car if I put it?
What pu? happen?
Chris156
07-03-2013, 16:29
to jump, do not jump.. the only thing that's worrying that stoop are the advances...
Although I can assure you that if you start to turn on the forum you will find so much beautiful material, and you'll have to do a better job.
I will contact those who made you the map and ask why she has changed those values, and upon what principle..then maybe write them so we may rejoice in these grey days!!!
explode82
07-03-2013, 16:45
I gave a look at the map,I have to say that to break do not break,which advances as it says in chris56 are a little high for the quantity of the diesel,but what's really shocking ? the give diesel from one side and then give him a nice clean cut in the shot at the top with the maps fumes made that way............and how to give it during a lowering of the sugar, the sugar in the water and then make him a nice dose of insulin mha
Chris156
07-03-2013, 16:47
I gave a look at the map,I have to say that to break do not break,which advances as it says in chris56 are a little high for the quantity of the diesel,but what's really shocking ? the give diesel from one side and then give him a nice clean cut in the shot at the top with the maps fumes made that way............and how to give it during a lowering of the sugar, the sugar in the water and then make him a nice dose of insulin mha
a fine example!!!! exceed even me!!! :D
At this point I know that ? better not to put it right. I still do not understand one thing: taking the original what are the parameters to change for a good map? Let me explain that you can't? copy a well made map and go to modify only those parameters. I apologize if I am unclear, but I still have a lot of mess.
Chris can you indicate which the post search, for example? but at least fap and egr has excluded?
Thanks again and sorry if I break too, I'm new and I don't even have a chance? download examples however.
Chris156
07-03-2013, 17:25
go to the search in the top right corner and write what you need to know, maybe use keywords.. es: exclusion egr
anyway, the egr ? been properly closed and also the fap pu? go.(? have you used old version of a well-known program that deletes it).
in the meantime, made lower down payments and try it.. then you change gradually by yourself and you will understand us? that is not to be'
explode82
07-03-2013, 17:46
a fine example!!!! exceed even me!!! :D
thank you chris XD but at least I made pi? that is a good idea.
explode82
07-03-2013, 17:47
With some program I could work on the same map as amended and lower advances I, as you say, or do I have to start again from the original? You are learning to understand and to vary these parameters, or are you self-taught? For today I've finished bother, thanks again.
explode82
07-03-2013, 17:57
I personally have done the courses and the rest ? the whole experience
Chris156
07-03-2013, 19:46
I giocherello with the ecu every so often!!!
as a program to mod your files you can use the ecm 2001 that is easily found in the internet.. if you search the forum you will find everything that you need..
explode because that is not the system, the files so it loads? :p
I giocherello with the ecu every so often!!!
as a program to mod your files you can use the ecm 2001 that is easily found in the internet.. if you search the forum you will find everything that you need..
explode because that is not the system, the files so it loads? :p
To me it's enough to know what to change since I just (on loan) the titanium. Even if I close the egr and fap, and then I would point and****. Would be a nice guide, but I can't download anything. Well I have to say, sooner or later, understand? the mechanism.
I was intrigued since? I have myself a croma 150 hp and I have had a look at your work,I have to say that I do not like at all to criticize the work of others,but I wanted to act,I join in all that is said by msport,the advice that you have given above are correct please try and understand the operation edit a map at a time cos? you know better..you see that car with a little goes quite well and you can reduce the consumption of so much...have a good study.
explode82
07-03-2013, 23:49
for? on the advice of the rail msport do not agree,for me can? go also so good com?,not ? much, but not even a little............for the map to make it load if you need it you need it a little
explode82
07-03-2013, 23:53
here you are served put this,so you're quiet
I was intrigued since? I have myself a croma 150 hp and I have had a look at your work,I have to say that I do not like at all to criticize the work of others,but I wanted to act,I join in all that is said by msport,the advice that you have given above are correct please try and understand the operation edit a map at a time cos? you know better..you see that car with a little goes quite well and you can reduce the consumption of so much...have a good study.
? what I'm looking for: the machine ? gi? powerful than his, I wanted to optimize precisely the consumption. Load ir? times the map? You ask me too I already? me cago under to do it once :-) anyway thanks to all you are truly a beautiful reality?: I hope to be able to help myself in the future.
explode82
08-03-2013, 00:32
cos'? explode? Are with the cell now but I don't think that has privileges to download the one you attached.
? your file is fixed you can load it and not have problems
explode82
08-03-2013, 11:08
go quiet now and ok
go quiet now and ok
Waiting to have the needed privileges to be able to download the studio: then when the scaricher? you do? know.
Thanks again
Chris156
09-03-2013, 14:40
I would have left those changes to those two maps after the lim of a couple.: rolleyes:
explode82
09-03-2013, 16:05
those of diesel fuel,but since it is for consumption and not for performance, I have preferred to let him have all golds in that area chris
Chris156
09-03-2013, 19:12
consumption is, who's driving the car!!! let's say that in this case, you have the tolerance with the various limiters of diesel and takes them those few mm3 who were unconsciously increased.
there are a few things that are not right..
why? the pedal should be higher than the torque?
if you do not want to eat because increases in the rail?
that is clear, nothing happens.. but if we want to make things right....
explode82
09-03-2013, 22:47
for the rail I noticed on the pi? drive that if the increases that p? improve noticeably the consumption,for the rest I left everything as it was,I have not done the map...................for the rest, the pedal in that way without diesel in the pi? and with the limiter that cuts you know that there is no sense........but in the end ? the map that they have done,and how ? was correct, at least, has no problems
Chris156
09-03-2013, 23:50
it in fact was not with you..? this way of mapping that I do not understand..
for the rail everyone runs it as he sees fit..I don't never touch the ceilings.
Size, pedal, rail? Boh?carcasi training course, possibly on the line.
Size, pedal, rail? Boh?carcasi training course, possibly on the line.
here you go:
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?324-Servizio-Files-Online
Guys sorry, but if I report the values of the modified map to the original ones using titanium exclusion egr and dpf will remain or will I lose? At this point, since the map I ? was made to ciofeca to me it would be enough to keep the exclusions. Must be remapped, however, for this change or it is good also ori-egr - dpf? Hello!
Guys sorry, but if I report the values of the modified map to the original ones using titanium exclusion egr and dpf will remain or will I lose? At this point, since the map I ? was made to ciofeca to me it would be enough to keep the exclusions. Must be remapped, however, for this change or it is good also ori-egr - dpf? Hello!
if you wait a little and participate you will get the system x download, with that you have changed the guys give not do and ? surely most of your files.
if you wait a little and participate you will get the system x download, with that you have changed the guys give not do and ? surely most of your files.
The problem ? participate as they are inexperienced and I don't have the skills to give advice :-))
explode82
12-03-2013, 02:42
you'll see that slowly you can,it only takes a p? patience
Hi all I'm hacking on my file to see if I have understood something. Someone can? give a look at the file to see if the Egr and Dpf have been excluded; I have used a software but I would like to understand more? the points which he has worked, and if it works well for learn how to proceed in the hand. A file of the kind, if written cos? com'? problems to the machine: lights, clogging. Thanks
No one has a minute to answer? Blessed are you who are working.
cawadany
06-04-2013, 09:22
EGR excluded correctly. For the rest I don't see any other mod on the file.
Thanks, then the Fap does not have excluded?
cawadany
06-04-2013, 10:33
I would say no.
As I feared; can I ask you a courtesy (if not too much to ask) could you send me a file to your liking ori and mod only with egr and fap off? Cos? maybe I understand better, when I do the other tests where to look to see if I have executed the work. Are not yet enabled to download any file but I don't think of breaking the rules if I ask for the direct sending. In case I'm wrong, forget my request. Thanks
cawadany
07-04-2013, 13:31
As I feared; can I ask you a courtesy (if not too much to ask) could you send me a file to your liking ori and mod only with egr and fap off? Cos? maybe I understand better, when I do the other tests where to look to see if I have executed the work. Are not yet enabled to download any file but I don't think of breaking the rules if I ask for the direct sending. In case I'm wrong, forget my request. Thanks
You're wrong, it goes against the rules.
You're wrong, it goes against the rules.
Ok. As not said, I arranger?. Thanks anyway, hello.
motorsport
07-04-2013, 14:10
in fact, read the rules, you need to have useful messages as they have done all!!
And now we are able to close FAP and EGR? I'm using Fassichip with some specific addresses, but I don't know if I've broken something.
in fact, read the rules, you need to have useful messages as they have done all!!
Mine was just a legitimate question that was demo files between private annulled if it violates the regulation. Still goes well, sooner or later they will come?.
Forgive me the file that I wanted to attach this was, the one above I think it is incomplete.
I bought a Time, and I applied two steps on the file: in the first, I requested the exclusion of the DPF, and in the second step, that of the EGR.
C'? have I accomplished? How can I know if the job ? been performed? Thanks
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