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mavaila1972
01-03-2013, 11:31
As the title place a file ori of a Golf VI GTI 211Cv with MED17 ecu for an in-depth study.
those who can't find the maps of the board of directors turbo and the torque demand ?
Unfortunately, they are not equal to the old med9
ecuboost
01-03-2013, 12:06
the ecm titanium drivers are correct for qst drive? why? li c'? the management of the turbo for? I do not know if ? correct
mavaila1972
01-03-2013, 12:51
the ecm titanium drivers are correct for qst drive? why? li c'? the management of the turbo for? I do not know if ? correct
e-mail addresses and we'll see.I use winols and drivers I trust poko
magi1984
01-03-2013, 16:36
limiter turbo:
050A5E
05AFE6
05AFB4
05AFFA
05B03C
05B082
05B0CC
05AC14
Turbo
050A86
Motor torque
05D3E6
torque in acceleration, 6 maps from 0634EE
maximum torque gear 041420
torque limiters
06571A
067106
with maximum torque of the first gear, etc, etc, 7 maps in a row starting from 06711A
this according to the driver of the ecm
carmat70
01-03-2013, 23:57
Very good, the discussion is also of interest to me. I'm looking for the ori, and then I'll have a look.
mavaila1972
02-03-2013, 18:50
limiter turbo:
050A5E
05AFE6
05AFB4
05AFFA
05B03C
05B082
05B0CC
05AC14
Turbo
050A86
Motor torque
05D3E6
torque in acceleration, 6 maps from 0634EE
maximum torque gear 041420
torque limiters
06571A
067106
with maximum torque of the first gear, etc, etc, 7 maps in a row starting from 06711A
this according to the driver of the ecm
limiter turbo:
050A5E = does not seem to me a limiter in the address falls inside the map
05AFE6 = ok limiter Turbo (attention off the map is not well taken by the driver)
05AFB4 = ok limiter Turbo
05AFFA = ok limiter Turbo
05B03C = ok limiter Turbo
05B082 = ok limiter Turbo
05B0CC = ok limiter Turbo
05AC14 = ok limiter Turbo
Turbo
050A86 = does not seem the turbo
Motor torque
05D3E6 = ok motor torque
Torque acceleration
6 maps from 0634EE = ok torque in acceleration attention is missing a map similar ind 640f4
maximum torque gear 041420 = for me it is not nothing
torque limiters
06571A = no torque limiters
067106 = no torque limiters
with maximum torque of the first gear, etc, etc, 7 maps in a row starting from 06711A = may be, but I don't touch
Hypothesis Management Turbo:
4de7a
4df1e
4dfba
Curves similar to the 7.9.10 don't you think?
carmat70
04-03-2013, 11:47
Great mavaila1972. I found the same ori and I gave it a look.
It seems to me that the speech does not face a wrinkle.
Also, the hypothesis management turbo, it seems to me likely, even if on the 7.9.10 have different sizes, and the map to the address 4df1e also has the different shape.
C'? to say, if I'm not mistaken, that on the 7.9.10 the turbo ? fixed geometry, while on the med17 should be of variable geometry.
cawadany
04-03-2013, 11:59
Great mavaila1972. I found the same ori and I gave it a look.
It seems to me that the speech does not face a wrinkle.
Also, the hypothesis management turbo, it seems to me likely, even if on the 7.9.10 have different sizes, and the map to the address 4df1e also has the different shape.
C'? to say, if I'm not mistaken, that on the 7.9.10 the turbo ? fixed geometry, while on the med17 should be of variable geometry.
I don't think. Of a variable geometry turbo on the petrol ? hard to find. A case pi? only that rare ? the turbo by Porsche ? variable geometry.
carmat70
05-03-2013, 12:07
You're right, I thought they were more? popular. :eek:
mavaila1972
06-03-2013, 00:29
if I'm not mistaken mount a k03 fixed geometry
cawadany
06-03-2013, 00:37
Mount a IHI
mavaila1972
06-03-2013, 00:43
Mount a IHI
ihi know the model?
also on these engines there, and the N75?
cawadany
06-03-2013, 08:19
The exact model I do not know. The wastegate is obvious that it has. However, we are OT.
carmat70
06-03-2013, 20:30
c'? just to understand what are the maps that manage the N75.
cawadany
06-03-2013, 20:42
? mechanical only, I believe....
carmat70
06-03-2013, 20:55
? mechanical only, I believe....
Then to move up to the pressure you must change mechanically, type change the spring in the wg?
cawadany
06-03-2013, 21:32
Exact. Sell the springs.
mavaila1972
07-03-2013, 00:37
Exact. Sell the springs.
makes me strange considering that the golf Gti v med9 ecu there was the N75
According to me, N75, there probably is handled in another way and the curves are changed.
We hope to find a certain answer to this question:confused:
cawadany
07-03-2013, 00:52
I know for sure that the Forge sells reinforced spring for the wastegate k04 (tfsi) and ihi (tsi).
mavaila1972
07-03-2013, 01:09
I know for sure that the Forge sells reinforced spring for the wastegate k04 (tfsi) and ihi (tsi).
ok the spring, but the management of the valve wasgate is usually done via a solenoid valve (N75), it is important to understand which are the maps of the command of the valve otherwise is the limiter and the pressure required is not reached
cawadany
07-03-2013, 08:14
ok the spring, but the management of the valve wasgate is usually done via a solenoid valve (N75), it is important to understand which are the maps of the command of the valve otherwise is the limiter and the pressure required is not reached
Ok, on this I do not comment as to ****l mapping I do not mean and in fact I did make the file on my......
carmat70
07-03-2013, 11:15
I mavaila1972, also according to me there must be an electronic actuator for the control of the wg.
The problem ? find the maps of management, which are not the classic that we are on the me7.5 or med9.1
gorimotors
07-03-2013, 20:16
C'? a character with a Pierburg to control the action of the wastegate valve.
carmat70
07-03-2013, 20:37
Then the maps are similar to me7.9.10?
gorimotors
07-03-2013, 21:01
No, the me7.9.10 ? quite different in the management of the turbo
carmat70
07-03-2013, 21:36
You know, to the case tell us what they are? Or give us an indication of the maximum. The map type med9.1 and me7.5 there are.
mavaila1972
07-03-2013, 22:07
No, the me7.9.10 ? quite different in the management of the turbo
It was a supposition that they were like the 7.9.10, I hope you can make suggestions as to understand what can be the maps of the management of this pierburg.
Being a solenoid, I think that the maps can be a pwm signal but I can not understand those that can be
mavaila1972
07-03-2013, 22:37
Ind 5b730
the Breakpoint indicate Rpm and maybe angle opening butterfly map may contain the duty cycle of the pierburg?????
to increase the rpm and throttle opening, the duty cycle decreases???
Can spin like reasoning?
carmat70
08-03-2013, 08:35
The reasoning pu? spin, but on that map I see numbers that are too regular, too many flat areas.
I dunno, I don't know.
carmat70
11-03-2013, 17:15
gorimotors not ? you can give us a straight on the maps management turbo?
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