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Hello guys, I bought from a German shop SMPS MPPS, V. 12.0.0.6 USB, CAN, EDC16 and I am waiting to arrive to start my adventure, but I have some doubts:
1. The ecu can you? block read?
2. If you lock the ecu I got it wrong or can you? recover only with BDM (Croma 2008 1.9 150 bhp)?
3. I have read that ? the need to keep the battery charged during the read and write operations, but if the battery does not ? 100% the software alerts me?
4. If this SMPS can truly change all the machines listed how ever many on the forum use so many different tools at the same time?
Thanks to all and we hope not to make trouble!
sportknight
27-02-2013, 18:29
1 the control unit and the reading you can block
2. if you are responding in writing you can try again in recovery without turn the ignition off,if still no go you go bdm
3, the program notifies you of the tension,but if you put a booster ? cmq better
4 you can modify any of the machines listed,not all of them!!
Thanks sportknight, however, the machines are a lot actually, and then c'? written on the object purchased Version V12 nat?rlich ohne Counter trad. Version V12 naturally without counter: what should count?
The booster ? the battery charger or the handheld instrument that is used to start the machine when the battery ? to the ground?
Excuse the silly questions, but if you are fairly well versed in computer science and software (even if so far I have not ever used programs for the control units) on the application and the hardware of the computer to the drive are set to zero. Basically I have a theory and I have no knowledge of the practice and the tools to execute it, but the crisis requires adaptation.
dvdtuning
27-02-2013, 19:38
The booster ? the tool used to start the car when the battery ? to the ground.
Meter means a meter of the scriptures, made tot the scriptures, you can't make more?.
albertorapper
01-03-2013, 00:31
yes, but not all the cars listed above can be read, some of them have only written
dvdtuning
01-03-2013, 10:40
For example, some marelli mounted on the 1.3 mjet fiat/alfa/lancia/opel can only write why? in reading you will need a bdm or you need to obtain an original file based on the codes of the ecu. To write with mpps you have to cut it to 1 mega but all of these info can be found in the many discussions in the forum.
If you have patience you will see that slowly you will understand lots of new things.
Thanks guys, this cut does not know, then this is the section of the original files that c'? on the forum.
But if you can not? read with MPPS and a controller (as you write above) how do you know the codes to download the original file?
All the cars the same (type all the point) do not have the same unit or the same as the original file?
Hello
michele30
01-03-2013, 20:50
the cars are the same, but its power units no ( at least not all of them, you have to see hw that is equal and sw, to be compatible
albertorapper
02-03-2013, 01:36
the id of the controller you can do with mpps.
for example, I've the alfa mito and my unit pu? be written and not read, so I should check the hw with mpps, find the original file, edit it, and rewrite it with mpps, although from what I understand and read write ? risky....
am I wrong?
Team electronics
02-03-2013, 09:56
no read no write nn' risky
explode82
02-03-2013, 12:29
In fact, read the file involves no risks......except for some of the cars that they might miss the encoding of the injectors.....for the rest there's no damage
msport (exil77grande)
02-03-2013, 16:44
the id of the controller you can do with mpps.
for example, I've the alfa mito and my unit pu? be written and not read, so I should check the hw with mpps, find the original file, edit it, and rewrite it with mpps, although from what I understand and read write ? risky....
am I wrong?
not risky and read please print as they have already confirmed the other, and anyway, for your myth is just what you have written but I have to add not to forget the fact that on the 1.3 mjet with mpps you have to cut the file from 2m to 1m.
What are the cars that lose the encoding of the injectors and how can we overcome this problem?
I always read of having to cut the file to a mega, but how? there are ad-hoc programmes?
sportknight
02-03-2013, 21:08
There are so many discussions, I am from the phone now and I can't help you, tomorrow I'll give you a hand, cars that lose the ranking are Peugeot, renault typically
ok, perfect. Aspect of your info about it. So if I were to read a renault or a peugeot with my galletto 2 I would make him lose the encoding of the injectors, and then not be able to find it anywhere. If I understand correctly, these should I do on the bench. right?
If I had instead an autocom, for example, I could read the encoding of the injectors and then rewrite it?
Team electronics
03-03-2013, 09:07
Watch I sincerely I have made and I lost no encoding!!!!!
msport (exil77grande)
03-03-2013, 10:19
those most at risk are the peugeot-renault only edc16, of course,just don't make them with mpps and a moment more confident then another little trick and write the map,turn the ignition off and on for 5 minutes doing nothing, don't touch anything and you are affixed.
Team electronics
03-03-2013, 11:32
Ford even at the risk!!!!!
explode82
03-03-2013, 12:05
then for renault you are ok because? ? only the coding injectors to get lost,peugeot loses injectors and variants that ricodifichi easily with lexia,citroen has need of the lexia,but with connection to the internet to re-encode the file as well as ford
then for renault you are ok because? ? only the coding injectors to get lost,peugeot loses injectors and variants that ricodifichi easily with lexia,citroen has need of the lexia,but with connection to the internet to re-encode the file as well as ford
ok, with the peugeot if you are EDC16 just don't make them with mpps!!! I too would use the gallo 2 then I would not have these problems, especially if after you have written it turn everything off for 5 minutes.
I don't understand what is that you are lexia and what does the connection to the internet? the ford also have these problems? mah...
explode82
04-03-2013, 00:57
the lexia ? the original diagnosis of the group, peugeot and citroen,the group works in a different way..............the ford have the same problem
ok... right. anyway autocom does what it does lexia and also makes the ford!
explode82
04-03-2013, 10:36
We do a little with autocom given that loses the variants and without the diagnosis of the mother house, we do very little
but here in the forum said that autocom ? very good. in that sense, it loses the variants? what does that mean?
explode82
04-03-2013, 20:15
that autocom is a good diagnosis is ok,but ? pursempre a diagnosis to be generic and not specific to the manufacturer,are the variations of the information contained in the e2p like that the alternator mounts,the type of radiator fan,the type of abs, etc, etc,
X what we need then ? ok. Would x the encoding, if any, of the injectors in the event of a loss of the same!
sportknight
05-03-2013, 19:07
The encoding Peugeot ? a little more? complicated, but the renault I think that with autocom you can do
explode82
05-03-2013, 21:40
is it that renault why? are only the injectors and also the variants
but then I do not understand, but they are all the renaul edc16? the others are out of this problem?
explode82
05-03-2013, 23:44
good or evil,the other renault are not subject to the loss of the coding injectors
albertorapper
06-03-2013, 00:13
sorry I wanted to say: ? risky to write without reading!
as with mpps v12 ecu of the alfa mito, can you? write but not read.
I should find the file ori online, modify it and then write it directly...
I have read around of the stations of the genre, but I can not give you a certain answer. strange to think that a unit can be written to and not read, but I read somewhere that c'? a sort of protection that is activated in reading.
albertorapper
07-03-2013, 00:38
nice rip-off in the effects
Now that I think one should be the alfa mito. If I remember well.
Team electronics
07-03-2013, 07:53
But you should at least know the Hw and the Sw otherwise how do you write it without knowing what'
albertorapper
08-03-2013, 14:25
hw and sw I can read them!
progress
08-03-2013, 19:37
hw and sw I can read them!
connect the hw and do data/ecu id ecu after the selection of the driver
albertorapper
09-03-2013, 11:20
you can't do it for?, I do not read the ecu data
progress
09-03-2013, 12:44
what hw would you like to read? have you checked in the list, the car of your hw if the driver for the controller/drive?
explode82
09-03-2013, 13:20
but that car you speak of and which engine?
But you which tool do you have? Perhaps I have missed something!
Hi! I take a p? this discussion for info, somewhere I read that the new delta can you? read and write with mpps: "today, curiosity? I opened the program but in the list I do not find the delta: in this case, how do you choose the driver corresponding to the controller? the cio? that procedure is to understand that the two machines are equipped with the same ecu, even if they have different names? C'? a list of the comparative? If I had to choose to get involved only to the Fiat group and Audi, to start with, just a mppsv12 and a bdm to work safely?
Hello
according to me, to be quiet, or I'll get you cock 2 and ktag or kess and ktag.
I would also add a diagnosis to be generic, you never know!!! For example Autocom!
Sorry again but, if the original map is removed the EGR and DPF ? also need to remap?
explode82
24-03-2013, 19:18
I would say no,what ? a type of work different ? at the discretion of your and requirements of the customer
I am not an expert on the subject, for? c'? anyone who says that should be done some tweaking since? after removing the dpf you have a depression because of the missing of the same. Others say that if you remove the dpf and not the catalyst, this is not the case, and not ? need to remap!
sportknight
25-03-2013, 11:50
without a dpf you may miss something low,but if you close the egr do you notice even of the decline,however, to the high, the car goes better...
explode82
25-03-2013, 23:42
even if you remove the dpf,do not change the performance,if it is replaced with a good, straight-tube
guys since this post ? generic doubts write, I ask you:
I have read a Fiat punto 2004 1.3 mjet 70cv. when I open the map with the ecm to me two checksum errors when I open the file, then it asks me to register it in the database, and after that is the driver I rid? the other two times the error calculating the checksum.
my doubt ?: can I modify and write to the map anyway, so the calculation of the checksum of me would make it the Rooster?
what do you think?
explode82
27-03-2013, 19:07
go quiet that does all the cock without problems XD
SandroMarciano
27-03-2013, 19:13
guys since this post ? generic doubts write, I ask you:
I have read a Fiat punto 2004 1.3 mjet 70cv. when I open the map with the ecm to me two checksum errors when I open the file, then it asks me to register it in the database, and after that is the driver I rid? the other two times the error calculating the checksum.
my doubt ?: can I modify and write to the map anyway, so the calculation of the checksum of me would make it the Rooster?
what do you think?
you could do this easily, so the limit rewrite the original file where the checksum ? definitely right!
but these 4 errors (2 prior to the selection of the driver and the other 2 after) according to you, what you depend on?
Hello pitty,what are the dimensions of the file that you've read? The then post here?
Sure... here...? now that I realize it maybe ? bed terrible... ? of 2.5 mb, can? be??? it seems to me strange!!!
As you read?Via serial?I these machines make them bdm or write with mpps(when I'm not planing to leave the car), However, it also happens on other machines that Galletto v2 reads the file with dimensions that are not typical.
I have given you a look at the file and I think that then also write using galletto 2 .According to me the error of ceksum out because of the size of the file.
SandroMarciano
29-03-2013, 07:39
As you read?Via serial?I these machines make them bdm or write with mpps(when I'm not planing to leave the car), However, it also happens on other machines that Galletto v2 reads the file with dimensions that are not typical.
I have heard that among all the interfaces mpps ? the pi? not recommended for this kind of ECU... with a rooster read and write from serial port without problems, and I have not read of anyone who has had a hitch, however, with mpps just do a search on ******.
cicciogsr
29-03-2013, 10:49
you can write the read file with chicken-2.5 mb I have read and written it takes an eternity? for? 80 min reading 40 min write and when you edit you can not use the drivers because? many times they are not centered well given the different size of the file, obviously this ? the street pi? long for mod the 6f3, mpps patch on muse dobl? and y..
damn... so this has to be changed in 2d. I hope I get in.
but if I read with mpps should I have a file of 2 mb then?
almost there I try to read it and then write it with the Rooster though ? not recommended. or I try to read with the Cock? bdm would be dismantling the unit. right?
sportknight
29-03-2013, 21:46
Do the ecuid with mpps and search for your unit in the database, the change, the cuts and the write with mpps
Do the ecuid with mpps and search for your unit in the database, the change, the cuts and the write with mpps
This way, more easy and fast ,that's why I said that when the customer does not I can leave the machine I facio so, but if possible I always prefer to get them in the bdm.I also have the galleto v2 pero I never used it for marelli.
I the Cock sincerely the I have already? used for 2 marelli without problems.
this point ? was the first that it has created problems. I still haven't continued with x? as I understand it should? do the ecu id with mpps, look for the driver based on the ecu id on titanium, edit it, and write it with Cock.
I have some fear if everything will go? x the address of the checksum error. boo.
hopefully I can make it. there terr? informed.
I understand that should I change it in 2d?
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