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robby51039
17-02-2013, 16:02
hi I would like to see this map done on my camper from a workshop I have to say that as performance was not the best but I lowered the cosumi.

munro
17-02-2013, 22:11
if the file to add the ori, perhaps, for those who wants to help is more easy to do so......

robby51039
17-02-2013, 22:38
sorry the file ori and' this

munro
18-02-2013, 12:07
robby the map should be redone completely dac****.....
there are many errors and made maps with increases in negative....*****and in the maps advances(map 1 and 2), which among other things was not to touch even saw the little diesel is required in the map time, and map rail....
then you started in almost all the maps have too few revs and too little load, especially in the lim couple where at 2000 rpm already? marks 30% going to? 1000 rpm before....with a heavy vehicle such as a camper a mod cos? it means the clutch and flywheel and greet you in a short time....
in the map the pedal parts on the rpm and load right but you do the contrary...what? parts with the maximum increment and then go to climb..
for the turbo you have given 200 points increases, but on the map of lim turbo(f temp) you are very low with the increase in......
you touched maps out driver, with increases in negative also here that according to me were not touched, and out of the driver did not touch at all the singloi bit of restriction on the press is turbo that rail......
rifalla robby the map at a time, ask for advice on how to make or read the discussions about this.....

robby51039
18-02-2013, 14:28
thanks munro, unfortunately, the map I made myself, but a colleague of mine at the time. given that, I was never satisfied, I would get her I now I start from zero and ve
the place for advice, thanks a lot guys you are special

munro
18-02-2013, 14:47
parties always from demand of diesel cio? from the DW or "wide choice acceleration" by the same rpm and load of the mod in question but the other way around..all? increases starting from a 6-8% until you get in progression up to a 12-16% request more....then steps to the limitations....

robby51039
19-02-2013, 23:51
this is the map I created, I take a look on what I have combined

munro
20-02-2013, 00:21
you're not there, robby...
you make all the same mistakes..
games from too little load and too few laps to change..
even in the map by the time you've changed the entire grid....
even if I have to say roby increases in data is almost not seen, do not change it that way....
rifalla starting from the pedal, as I have suggested then I will follow you step-by-step.....

robby51039
11-03-2013, 11:49
scuami munro in this period I have many things to do family work 2lavoro when I start there are just.....can't he find the key to the problem
however, I've read some post and I inzz?hiatus a little bit as you said you think that they are riucito to understand something????
I thank you in advance for the effort!

robby51039
12-03-2013, 22:07
no one that I can hang on to a board??

lupak
14-03-2013, 00:55
Hello robby, I wanted to remind you that in the map of time (072366) the axes are :
x-axis= pressure rail
Y-axis= iq
z-axis =value x 0,976=injection time
according to me you may want to begin you first started to 900 bar.
in the map turbo pressure (077AE4) the axes are :
x-axis = rpm
Y-axis = iq
z-axis = turbo pressure expressed in millibars
in my opinion you could increase the points and you should do the same with the map pressure limiter turbo out of the driver ? the map that precedes that of the turbo pressure.
with the map pedal ask 85 mm3 but then the limits with the torque limiter with a maximum peak of 78 mm3, I don't like, you could do it better, the torque limiter
the rail pressure can you give a 5% fixed always by 1500 rpm and 50% load.
You have to understand the logic of each map to edit them and then put them all together, why? they are all related to each other.
I hope I helped you to make you think how to improve your map.

SandroMarciano
14-03-2013, 07:31
I have not seen the map, but considering that the speech made by lupak, it makes no sense the way a percentage of the pedal... that map has as values a quantity? of diesel, we write to you that you want as the maximum... true ? for? if not adeguerai all the limiters of the deal? you're not going anywhere... the first one that you find ? on the torque limiter, then (I'm going from memory) there should be at least a limiter do range as a function of the temperature of the diesel fuel. When ignite? the computer you say? best!

robby51039
14-03-2013, 15:00
Hello robby, I wanted to remind you that in the map of time (072366) the axes are :
x-axis= pressure rail
Y-axis= iq
z-axis =value x 0,976=injection time
according to me you may want to begin you first started to 900 bar.
in the map turbo pressure (077AE4) the axes are :
x-axis = rpm
Y-axis = iq
z-axis = turbo pressure expressed in millibars
in my opinion you could increase the points and you should do the same with the map pressure limiter turbo out of the driver ? the map that precedes that of the turbo pressure.
with the map pedal ask 85 mm3 but then the limits with the torque limiter with a maximum peak of 78 mm3, I don't like, you could do it better, the torque limiter
the rail pressure can you give a 5% fixed always by 1500 rpm and 50% load.
You have to understand the logic of each map to edit them and then put them all together, why? they are all related to each other.
I hope I helped you to make you think how to improve your map.this and the ste that I have created are now able to improve?can I write it on the vehicle?

lupak
14-03-2013, 15:58
A tip : look at the map in 2D, even if you edit in the grid
1 maps of the injection times you have to make them in the same way: on a you started at 10a curve (900bar), and on the other the 7th curve (600bar) in my opinion you could also start from the 4th curve; let the driver of the titanium, which shows the rpm, those are the bar of rail pressure.
for the torque limiter tries to adapt it to map the pedal, it starts with a 10-15 % and increases gradually up to a 27-30%