give me an opinion on the map 120d edc16c35

[magi1984]

as the title suggests, I would like an opinion on the map of my car, which obviously ? the first that I did!
the car goes well, compared to the original has gained surely horses and do not smoke minimamenteprecisiamo that I do not care to earn 30 or more? horses straining the mechanics up to the maximum limit...also I should have closed the EGR valve

in summary a p? I touched injection zoned enrichment and acceleration
the pressure turbo I put it to 1.6 bar
I've incremented the various torque limiters and just

rail pressure, the time of an overboost and the other I left all the original

give me an opinion?thanks

[cicciogsr]

the things that you missed deliberately missing a torque limiter, the turbo, in my opinion, cos? not v? you have missed a lot of maps and limiters, injection, maybe for a mod soft pu? go well ...the various maps are not tuned well ... for me, it has taken a lot of power

[cicciogsr]

what tool have you written?

[magi1984]

with kess original,why??
on the power outlet do not know, before I had an additional control unit,then the comparison I make with that, and with the map I am convinced that it goes ir? first

the torque limiter is missing I have found, working only with ecm titanium drivers is not taken into consideration...
the maps't forget that you say I know what address are they and what are they?

thanks anyway for the great advice that I have already? given!

[cicciogsr]

the driver of the titanium you should find all the maps turbo, and the rail with the various limiters ...on the map turbo that you have touched the eye that you went in the negative control well..

[magi1984]

now with the cell phone and I go to memory,however the ecm to me is the 4 maps turbo and I have changed pretty much only the first why? was that with the pi values? high,where a couple are in fact negative,them correct?.
the other maps turbo I imagined that they were maps of recovery or something like that because as the values are basse.posso raise even those of 0.1 or 0.2 bar?
A map turbo pressure f temp that I don't know how to edit,7 maps an overboost that I don't think they go touch.
Even why? the bmw's are sensitive to the turbine.

As the rail pressure ce n? only one,the maximum peak ? 1600bar,it seemed to me already? high for this I have changed.
I'm prepared to 1700bar???

Of course, alzer? also the limiters accordingly

you said that for a map soft maps of the injection van well,then I can raise it a little and see how it behaves in the car?
After all, does a minimum of smoke,and then I could still play a bit with the values, well...

Sorry for the thousand questions!
And thanks, really why? you are helping me more? you in a few hours that other people in other forums that I frequent,indeed frequentevo, where you could only criticize without telling me where I was wrong

[cicciogsr]

for the turbo do all the maps that takes you back to the drivers there are more? maps why? are used in different conditions and I to make a map soft I terei around 0.1 or a little more? and I would do all the same.... on the rail I'd work a little, and with pi values? low ...for the injection if it has not fap make a p? of evidence and you push yourself even further... the smoke you can delete giving air...? always keep presents that if you give too much diesel in the wrong places is affected, and the transmission...you need to find a compromise ..always remember to bring all the various limiters in order not to have surprises

[msport (exil77grande)]

hi,I was viewing the map and known according to the graph of the titanium:

-enrichment and acceleration 1-2 parts by 1000 rpm, and 33% of the load which, according to me it is too soon either as rpm as load,also I did not understand why the last curve of 5000 rpm, and it was gold and I don't like the mode that you used to give completely increments.

-limiter, torque them to 1000 rpm, instead you should find your way on almost all the maps on about 1500 rpm,the increment can go even if it was better to have a bit more gradual.

injection-zoned parts by 1000 rpm, which is premature, even if the increase is very soft and you could give more, but starting later as rpm,also I don't like here, too, the methods used do not see it rather progressive.

-leakage turbo,we're not completely in the map 1di 4 there are increases in the negative in the last corner and then erroriamente you touched on a point-to-3750 rpm at 50% load,while in map 2 of 4 have you forgotten the last curve to that of the 4500 rpm ori,instead of the similar maps 3 of 4 and 4 of 4 you have left ori,from my point of view you can do the same with a max of 0.12 bar.

-limiter pressure turbo,and it too has to be redone following the logic and increments the data to the turbo pressure of the same but not as you've currently done.

on the rail pressure and adjusting the limiter you can give safely 50-60 bar and more,maybe try to follow our advice and put a new map before loading it.

[magi1984]

I had just finished editing the map....but I'm at the point to put into practice your advice I have to redo it once again!hehe


on the rail pressure there I guessed in the map just rebuilt, the same for the limiter

for all the rest that you said to me I took note, but did not succeed? to fix anything until tomorrow evening, why? if I start the pc in the end of the week with the ECM of my girl kills me!
anyway, thanks for the advice!
among other Monday is in the company of a guy with a 320d with the engine equal to that of my own, so if I understand how to map my car I can also be good for her!

[msport (exil77grande)]

I had just finished editing the map....but I'm at the point to put into practice your advice I have to redo it once again!hehe


on the rail pressure there I guessed in the map just rebuilt, the same for the limiter

for all the rest that you said to me I took note, but did not succeed? to fix anything until tomorrow evening, why? if I start the pc in the end of the week with the ECM of my girl kills me!
anyway, thanks for the advice!
among other Monday is in the company of a guy with a 320d with the engine equal to that of my own, so if I understand how to map my car I can also be good for her!

ok perfect, but I repeat you have said 1000 rpm you start to 1500 and for the last curve, even if you get there change it as the other.

[cicciogsr]

for msport in the map injection zoned there are in the axis n? laps n? load

[msport (exil77grande)]

for msport in the map injection zoned there are in the axis n? laps n? load

I agree with you but since the user uses the titanium, if you read carefully I wrote on the basis of what it says on the titanium parts etc so I made an example based on what he currently sees in the grid,I believe that the 2d still don't know.

[cicciogsr]

ok but at the end in the courses they teach, especially to use the software?... they don't explain how it works each map and what is it?.... how do they explain that to pull off the donkeys at your table you will need to manipulate the flow rate of air and fuel in the right measure?...why? if they give you instructions on the % increase for m? not ? a professional method

[msport (exil77grande)]

ok but at the end in the courses they teach, especially to use the software?... they don't explain how it works each map and what is it?.... how do they explain that to pull off the donkeys at your table you will need to manipulate the flow rate of air and fuel in the right measure?...why? if they give you instructions on the % increase for m? not ? a professional method

in practice, what you say is absolutely right but if they have to take a course of the scope you are referring to you should last at least 1 week and the cost would be over the 1000€ each,so instead of simulating the rpm and load on the grid and indicating on the basis of the maps from that rpm and load to start, and + or - how many points, or % give already the people in a days something they don't understand the method works and the cost of the course is affordable don't you think? moreover, in large companies, usually the purpose is to sell your own equipment.

[cicciogsr]

I thought that the courses cost so much more?...

[magi1984]

I found a scrap of time to follow your tips!and for this I thank you once again!

what does the course do not know, between the equipment,software, subscription for a year, and the course we have spent 5000 euros,and the course was for two, me and my****

I fixed that, at least I hope, map it!
until Monday, I can't upload it because? the kess ? in the company, if you go to check it and say what you think I accept all the criticism!
and in the case of contribution of additional changes!

I have doubts on the turbo pressure f(temp), I've remodeled but I don't know if you need it, and especially if I did it in the right way
also can you tell me if the egr valve ? closed properly?I have doubts even about that given that c'? in the driver and I had to try it in 2d

way it will learn? also to work in 2d but it takes time,sweat and patience!the course we have used only the grid and the 3d

[msport (exil77grande)]

this map is already better than the first,but in 2d where you mod the torque limiter out of the driver immediately after you will be ran off the mouse because there is a point with values in the negative return it in gold,the rest is acceptable, but the pressure the turbo and its limiter continues to not digest it,could you please explain how the mod and why based on what you have explained?

[magi1984]

the turbo pressure, I am limited to raise it by 0.1 or 0.2 bar without to follow any particular policy.
The rimodifico following the usual criterion used on the injection?the cio? gradual increases in the percentage by dividing the rpm in 3 bands???
For the limiter torque out of the driver,not me, I am aware of it,I can fix it immediately!
As soon as I get the turbo in place,the new map, then all the various evidence attached earlier, I delete so not appesantisco the forum of useless stuff!

Thanks msport

[msport (exil77grande)]

do so, at least you have a better base than the current one on the turbo pressure,turbo pressure f temp and relative limiter you can give about 100-120 points fixed or maybe slightly gradual, starting from the rpm and loads, similar to the injection on the basis of what you from the table of titanium,there are many systems, maybe not the best but definitely better than how you did.

[magi1984]

here, I gave a gradual increase on the turbo from 90 to 100 points, from 56% of the load and from 1500rpm
also, I corrected the limiter in the negative.

if you tell me that it goes well this afternoon I jump in the company and I write it if I can, if not write it tomorrow :)

[msport (exil77grande)]

ok,even if it is not just like the way I would so uo' go then from this base that you try to adjust,the only trick would be to raise at least 1% of the limiter rail pressure and according to me the last curve of the rail pressure should be changed,the rest can go.

[magi1984]

I adjusted the press rail on the limiter and I wrote the map,the car goes very well. The only note ? that up to 80% of the pedal is fine,if it sank all smoke a little!

To delete the smoke I should increase the value a little of enrichment, acceleration, or decrease a little the injection split???

[cicciogsr]

or decrease in the diesel fuel, or increase the turbo

[magi1984]

the prover? both,the first down with a little injection zoned.
everything from 80% to 100% load from 3500rpm and up :D
and if it still does not solve lifted up the turbo 120 points instead of 100
thanks ciccio!

[msport (exil77grande)]

I adjusted the press rail on the limiter and I wrote the map,the car goes very well. The only note ? that up to 80% of the pedal is fine,if it sank all smoke a little!

To delete the smoke I should increase the value a little of enrichment, acceleration, or decrease a little the injection split???



you can do so increases, the hair, the pressure of the turbo and then you can start a curve in the map injection zoned,i.e. delete the first curve mod type you started with 1500? parts from 1700 rpm,are not increments to smoke that machine except that you give it all the gas just at a very low rpm.

[magi1984]

I don ? clare is what...I smoke up and make me remove a curve at the bottom..***** and why is that?

[msport (exil77grande)]

your question is legitimate,then I've interpreted that the machine will smoke when you thumb the whole thrust or the problem is that the tablet you smoke?
if it is the first case of do as I said, if it's the second, do you have written 2 post above, bringing the pressure of the turbo on 120 points.

[magi1984]

the car starts to smoke and when, with the accelerator pedal arrival to the tablet
if I press up to three-quarters throttle and just the car does not smoke


however, let's say that the base map ? done, thanks to all of you!
now I just have to refine it!

[magi1984]

I'm going slightly OT right to present a small problem that I'm sure I'm not the center with the mapping

cool machine, I have the turbine from 3000 to 3500 rpm is a nasty metallic sound, which then disappears, or, however, decreases as soon as the car warms up
I'm afraid that my turbine, I'm saying goodbye to the car in about 90000km, and it would not be the first turbine bmw and jumps to that mileage.
probably with car original I had never noticed the defect why? the turbine works on the 1570mbar.
bringing in 1670 I have heard the problem.
now for the test I put the car original,to see if the noise you hear as well.
however I have already? notified my mechanic, Wednesday? I bring the car to check!
what a bad luck...

[magi1984]

aim? the turbine makes noise even with the car original! Okay! Better for me to see it now rather than in August!

[blackwolf76]

aim? the turbine makes noise even with the car original! Okay! Better for me to see it now rather than in August!

I see with pleasure that you have started to study great..;)

With regard to the turbine, if you were to serve me a whistle that maybe I can solve the problem. I don't know you, but here are the very core assy new turbines, which have a much lower cost to the turbine complete, in the order of 3/400 euro.

[magi1984]

first let's see if ? what, tomorrow I drive to see
maybe ? only a sheet metal heat shields of the exhaust that vibrates to cold, then the heat expands and vibrates more?...let's see!I will have you know wolf, thanks

[blackwolf76]

first let's see if ? what, tomorrow I drive to see
maybe ? only a sheet metal heat shields of the exhaust that vibrates to cold, then the heat expands and vibrates more?...let's see!I will have you know wolf, thanks

as you are optimistic...:rolleyes::D

[magi1984]

today I did hear the noise to the mechanic and according to him ? the ceramic catalyst that is breaking, next week unmount and if it's so? it was the flush!

[msport (exil77grande)]

today I did hear the noise to the mechanic and according to him ? the ceramic catalyst that is breaking, next week unmount and if it's so? it was the flush!

maybe it is from defappare.

[magi1984]

? the very first series

[blackwolf76]

? the very first series

And then it almost touches the chamber...:D

Anyway, usually ceramic + stridire is a vibration that creates nuisance noise and decrease performance.

[magi1984]

looking at the map of my car in 2d, I am aware of a curve out of the driver who seems to be very much a limiter rail pressure, much? that is immediately after the pressure limiter rail and its value ? 16000, that is, the value of the pressure limiter rail with the original map.

according to you ? exact my intuition?
you say you change even one as I did with the pressure limiter rail?

http://s10.postimage.org/4htxsufk5/Immagine.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/4htxsufk5/)

[msport (exil77grande)]

looking at the map of my car in 2d, I am aware of a curve out of the driver who seems to be very much a limiter rail pressure, much? that is immediately after the pressure limiter rail and its value ? 16000, that is, the value of the pressure limiter rail with the original map.

according to you ? exact my intuition?
you say you change even one as I did with the pressure limiter rail?

http://s10.postimage.org/4htxsufk5/Immagine.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/4htxsufk5/)

you wanting it to change as well.

[magi1984]

question:but the maps of enrichment and acceleration,they pretty much work the add-on modules that you install on the accelerator pedal?

[msport (exil77grande)]

question:but the maps of enrichment and acceleration,they pretty much work the add-on modules that you install on the accelerator pedal?

hello,I do not know well the operation of the add-on module that you install on the accelerator pedal, but I believe that he will do only the function of making the car more nervous on the basis of the position of the pedal, and then does not increase the power but only the shot, while the maps enrichment and acceleration on the edc 16 have a function of enrichment of diesel, therefore, apart from the shot, the machine becomes even more powerful.

[cicciogsr]

hello,I do not know well the operation of the add-on module that you install on the accelerator pedal, but I believe that he will do only the function of making the car more nervous on the basis of the position of the pedal, and then does not increase the power but only the shot, while the maps enrichment and acceleration on the edc 16 have a function of enrichment of diesel, therefore, apart from the shot, the machine becomes even more powerful.

on edc16 I'm sorry contraddirti but they do not have to do with no enrichment of diesel, the maps on the basis of speed and pedal position provide the ecu information of the required torque.

[magi1984]

now I will explain the why? my question...I've set up my map based on my personal needs, feelings, and the car is fine.
now I'm having to play a p? in order to understand what will change if I change this or that.

in parit? to increase given the injection split the car I smoke black, while raising the enrichment in acceleration the car does not smoke and it seems to me the most? aggressive

[msport (exil77grande)]

on edc16 I'm sorry contraddirti but they do not have to do with no enrichment of diesel, the maps on the basis of speed and pedal position provide the ecu information of the required torque.

I agree with you, but also enrich it with diesel fuel, in fact, if you can turn up the maps in a way you should, you see that the smoke does in spades

[admin]

on edc16 I'm sorry contraddirti but they do not have to do with no enrichment of diesel, the maps on the basis of speed and pedal position provide the ecu information of the required torque.

Everything that touches at the end, and' diesel then the ecm calls him in a way winols in another
I give you an example torque limiter, what is, and what it touches mechanically ?
nothing and always diesel or by or Levi
Then say, enrichment, or the imitator and the same thing, instead, the discourse on gasoline and totally different.
While when it comes to add-on module to the accelerator pedal and it is just a simple amplifier, in fact, amplifies the volts of the potentiometer pedal.

[cicciogsr]

sorry but I am not of your opinion, and maybe for the beginners ? better to make this clear, the first thing to do ? true that everything you touch ? diesel ? true that there are maps that do vary the flow but on edc16 all ? in function of the torque, the torque limiter limits the torque map pedal requires it; supply and demand then go to other maps to become amount? of fuel to be injected... if you tap advance or turbo, you certainly are not maps that increase the diesel... the management of the torque limiter always very simplistic, but not ? cos?...the add-on module to false, only the value of the potentiometer in the pedal only serves to make the pedal more? anticipated the car seems to pi? reactive, but the substance is not there?..

[msport (exil77grande)]

sorry but I am not of your opinion, and maybe for the beginners ? better to make this clear, the first thing to do ? true that everything you touch ? diesel ? true that there are maps that do vary the flow but on edc16 all ? in function of the torque, the torque limiter limits the torque map pedal requires it; supply and demand then go to other maps to become amount? of fuel to be injected... if you tap advance or turbo, you certainly are not maps that increase the diesel... the management of the torque limiter always very simplistic, but not ? cos?...the add-on module to false, only the value of the potentiometer in the pedal only serves to make the pedal more? anticipated the car seems to pi? reactive, but the substance is not there?..

of course, it is understood that the pressure turbo has nothing to do with the speech of the admin, but mechanically it is almost all diesel then theoretically you can study all you want, and edit as you see fit according to your theories, but on the road has the experience that is the one that for me is faith,for the add-on module that we all agree.

[admin]

sorry but I am not of your opinion, and maybe for the beginners ? better to make this clear, the first thing to do ? true that everything you touch ? diesel ? true that there are maps that do vary the flow but on edc16 all ? in function of the torque, the torque limiter limits the torque map pedal requires it; supply and demand then go to other maps to become amount? of fuel to be injected... if you tap advance or turbo, you certainly are not maps that increase the diesel... the management of the torque limiter always very simplistic, but not ? cos?...the add-on module to false, only the value of the potentiometer in the pedal only serves to make the pedal more? anticipated the car seems to pi? reactive, but the substance is not there?..

It was under intended that I did not speak of pressure turbo's nothing to do with
what you say is not correct to speak of diesel engines where there is a high pressure pump two sensors, one on the pump that would be the regulator pres rail and one on the rail pres sensor rail and the injectors, just everything is controlled by the control unit ec-jetronic nothing how do you vary the torque?
Simply by decreasing or increasing the amount? diesel
The way how to do it, and changing the various maps contained in the ECU

[garret]

I follow with great interest all over the speech guys ? a clash between the titans of chiptuning

[cicciogsr]

on the operation of the diesel engine, I think that there are doubts about the edc16 based all the management of the injection on the couple in the edc15 all based on the IQ ? true that the couple ? proportional to the Iq of the speech was the party from the map-request logic if I'm not mistaken, should be required to be modulated by the lim torque then the info processed containing the optimum torque is converted into a certain quantity? fuel injected for a given time at a certain pressure...just by measuring the injection pressure is the processing of the torque value to be paid ... at least I spempre framed cos? .. any person can? rightly simplify the story to the end all that counts is the final result..

[magi1984]

s? I have broken the OO with mi car..***** s, I'm attaching the last file that was made for two reasons:

- the first ? know if there are any improvements that I can do or any other modifications.
the car cos? it has a good power and does not smoke anything, so after the holidays with the porter? to do a roll from a client / friend to see how many hp I gained. surely the masters of the forum would be able to do much better, but I think of myself as still a beginner.

- the second reason ? if it's good enough cos? and it's another beginner like me with a car like mine to do, may? take my map as an example, if he wants to

[garret]

[msport (exil77grande)]

do not break anything to anyone, we are here for.the map is very soft,if you try on the bench, I think that something like 15cv should be out,on the whole, I would do things completely divesre but you know that we are all of different opinions,not a map with which you can do damage should go well,I'm curious to know about the tour thing develops,let us know.

[magi1984]

and what should I do to give him more? without it smoking?
why? if you increase the values on the injection split the car smokes black, cos? as I put it I do not...

[frantik3]

I want to help you

[frantik3]

how many messages before downloading the file

[magi1984]

[frantik3]

I hope to help you soon

[magi1984]

but theoretically you should be able to download the attachment given that you've passed 50 messages

[frantik3]

I do not know why? but makes me download

[frantik3]

but with the last file should not fumarti even if I think that a fifteen cv you've got them you touched on a little, and you are missing some managers, however, is not evil

[magi1984]

no, with the last file doesn't smoke...
if for? I raise the values in the injection zoned you, I smoke

I'd like to understand what should I tap to increase the horses avoiding her smoking

[frantik3]

zoned depends on how the rise, not to go over 15%

[magi1984]

for the one I stopped at 10

[frantik3]

why? you also have high injections rpm pedal or as it is called ecm enrichment and acceleration do not go over the 10% at high loads on that car

[msport (exil77grande)]

for the one I stopped at 10


if parts from the table about 1500 rpm and 50% load in the progression up to a maximum of 15% should not smoke,also on the turbo you can easily arrive about 0.15 bar and more,if you smoke a trial basis instead of 1500 rpm to 1700 rpm.

[msport (exil77grande)]

exact if you smoke now, I cannot remember how much you gave to map wide choice acceleration abassalo a bit because, as was already discussed in another discussion of this map, however, has to do with the diesel.

[frantik3]

exact if you smoke now, I cannot remember how much you gave to map wide choice acceleration abassalo a bit because, as was already discussed in another discussion of this map, however, has to do with the diesel.


:cool:exactly

[magi1984]

the discussion was always this one... :D
I was the one that I had asked if you would like that map.
now rimodifico the file by lowering enrichment, acceleration, and increasing the turbo and a coat as well as the injection is zoned,then place a new version...
the injection zoned already? delivery from 1700rpm

unfortunately I have no way of writing the map mod why? son to work in the bike..***** s, tomorrow definitely write it

[msport (exil77grande)]

however, as you have done the mod, even lifting a hair, it is impossible to smoke,the car is everything ok?
pipes intercooler?
air mass meter?

[frantik3]

C58D2
try to give max 5%, and see if it still smokes

[magi1984]

however, as you have done the mod, even lifting a hair, it is impossible to smoke,the car is everything ok?
pipes intercooler?
air mass meter?

*msport: yes, everything is ok to ****llo mechanical.smokes only when I am at a high rpm at full load
the smoke ? minimum mind you, doesn't it ? a chimney in my car? however, c? and it bothers me

*frantik: ok I try, for curiosity?, that map would be the one that starts C58D2?

in fettempo I remade the map, by raising the hair of the injection zoned up to 12%, raising the pressure turbo 150punti about and lowering the enrichment and acceleration to 10% maximum

[frantik3]

let's say a correction air-fuel

[magi1984]

I edit everything from 0c58d2 up to 0c5ad4?

[frantik3]

from met? then

[magi1984]

for now, thank you everyone

[magi1984]

then I remade the map by placing injection zoned, turbo pressure and enrichment, acceleration, following your advice.
the car ? improved a lot and although I have increased the values on the injection, I didn't smoke at the exhaust.
I tried changing the map to the address C58D2 as suggested by frantik, the situation had changed, but not by much.
cos? I started with the elaboration of the maps of the injection (ALL) from 1700rpm instead of 1500, while those related to the turbo I left by the 1500's, and the smoke ? completely gone!
tomorrow place the map that I have on the laptop in the company, I forgot to take it home :D

[msport (exil77grande)]

I would say very good,in fact I didn't understand, how did he smoke it was only a matter of having to fix the injection in a different way.

[magi1984]

here is the last file that was made with which the car is quite good

[mavaila1972]

looking at the map of my car in 2d, I am aware of a curve out of the driver who seems to be very much a limiter rail pressure, much? that is immediately after the pressure limiter rail and its value ? 16000, that is, the value of the pressure limiter rail with the original map.

according to you ? exact my intuition?
you say you change even one as I did with the pressure limiter rail?
http://s10.postimage.org/4htxsufk5/Immagine.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/4htxsufk5/)


this increases across the map only if the map rail pressure your increases exceed 1600 Bar

[mavaila1972]

then I remade the map by placing injection zoned, turbo pressure and enrichment, acceleration, following your advice.
the car ? improved a lot and although I have increased the values on the injection, I didn't smoke at the exhaust.
I tried changing the map to the address C58D2 as suggested by frantik, the situation had changed, but not by much.
cos? I started with the elaboration of the maps of the injection (ALL) from 1700rpm instead of 1500, while those related to the turbo I left by the 1500's, and the smoke ? completely gone!
tomorrow place the map that I have on the laptop in the company, I forgot to take it home :D

great idea

[mavaila1972]

here is the last file that was made with which the car is quite good

looked at the file, and' a good map compliments:)

[magi1984]

thanks mavaila, thanks to the advice received from the forum that have helped me a lot!
I have now modified by increasing a little the pressure of the turbo
the cio? instead of going from 120 points to 50% load at 150 points at 100% load, now it goes from 150 to 160 points

[mavaila1972]

thanks mavaila, thanks to the advice received from the forum that have helped me a lot!
I have now modified by increasing a little the pressure of the turbo
the cio? instead of going from 120 points to 50% load at 150 points at 100% load, now it goes from 150 to 160 points



I incrementerei the whole 50% of the load at the end of 150 points

[magi1984]

I have a question...
these curves seem to me like torque limiters, I can confirm?
limit the torque on the basis of what???
http://s12.postimage.org/qk1vmp9q1/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/qk1vmp9q1/) http://s12.postimage.org/jw9vdufll/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/jw9vdufll/)

also I can confirm if you think this ? the map of the deal? diesel fuel is injected according to the torque engine?Thanks
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[magi1984]

can someone tell me the pu? confirm if that ? the map of the deal? diesel fuel is injected according to the torque engine?

[perrysound70]

hello I start now with my bmw 120d 2005 no fap....I am thrilled and trembling like the first time!

[perrysound70]

nessumo mi help?