Processing Stylus jtd115 and Alpha 147mjet 140hp

[mariodarkblue]

Hi guys...I share with you the results I had after hours and hours of study..after you have done some bad encounters with a big name in the industry tuning...a failure.
Anyway...nuff said...
My stylus ? jtd115 of 2001, I have intercooler, front, camshaft colombo and bariani, panel filter, original flywheel, clutch co.me, the injectors and pump, original, turbine, GT2256v, without catalysts. Ah, I also added a oil cooler.
The map I've made, after many tests and reading night on forum foreign and domestic..after hundreds of **** exchanged with other friends around italy with the same engine...The turbine ? run actuator pressure, pressure plug on the intake manifolds: prex constant 1.8 bar.
Anyway, here's the roll:
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I would say that ? a good result 210cv, and 45kg of torque!

Instead, as regards the 147mjt of my brother: ? a 2004 140hp original...he has only a intercooler of the 156 (? a litre and a half bigger), exhaust ****** and panel filter.
The car ? been mapped always from me, and has rolled 195cv and 40kg of torque.

[James]

the turbo what would it be? the cio? on that drive ? mounted? I with the codes I can not inquadrarle, say you do 1.8 constant..and in tennis you will not salt? with pneumatic valve x that you have opted for that if you had the electronic management?

[James]

I was not able to edit the message and then I write another one!

anyway, congratulations for the results, have you considered the option of increasing the flow rate to the fuel pump, and replace the injectors with 4 of a mjtd 8v?

[mariodarkblue]

Hello james!azz, I see that we are neighbors...I rolled the car from morraelettronica, salerno!have a great tour!
Anyway, the turbo ? the 2.4 mjet fiat/alfa...gt2256v...I opted for the air-valve xk? changing the turbo, the management via the map becomes quite complex: the PID control in the map are set in the ecu depending on the turbo ? installed on the car...changing turbo those controls that PID is not worth more...and sincerely to risk breaking the turbine pressure uncontrolled or have low pressure, I solved it with a pressure valve, and mechanical handling.
The pressure valve, I ensured a constant of 1.5 bar (which remained as such in the extension), I proceeded then to install an overboost external adjustable crown diesel, and to make the outlet pressure for the actuator on the intake manifolds...and I have calibrated the valve to 1.8 bar constants.
I honestly do not feel the usefulness? to replace the pump and the injectors with the ones of the mjet 8v..***** and see with the stuff of the series, if you know how to use it, to roll out the beautiful powers...
Ah, considers that there would still be, in fact, I will ride with rail pressure original...
Having a turbo that allows the 2.2 constants, without risk of damage...you could even go;)

[msport (exil77grande)]

I suggest you upgrade directed by james saw that I tried it on my skin,injectors, mjet 120 hp pump, 2.4 jtd, and you have an extra gear, and in that case leaving unchanged the current pressure turbo that I would take on the 1.9-2.0 constants can you give diesel without any problems, and reinforce the car a lot.

[mariodarkblue]

hello msport...look, honestly all of the need? to have this diesel in the most not known...I am considered around ori as rail pressure, asking for a little more? only when I ask 105mm3...think if alzassi the rail pressure in the other bp...then...what jtd are you talking about?2.4 136 hp? the turbine I have on now, with 1.8 ? already to the limit...to go beyond that would gt2560vk or increase the suction of the gt2256v with fan 60...and pull it to 2.2 of a constant...

[Chris156]

congratulations for the results!!!! Just for curiosity, how many mm3 inject on the 140 hp to get 195 hp ?

[admin]

hello msport...look, honestly all of the need? to have this diesel in the most not known...I am considered around ori as rail pressure, asking for a little more? only when I ask 105mm3...think if alzassi the rail pressure in the other bp...then...what jtd are you talking about?2.4 136 hp? the turbine I have on now, with 1.8 ? already to the limit...to go beyond that would gt2560vk or increase the suction of the gt2256v with fan 60...and pull it to 2.2 of a constant...

Going on the mechanical actuator according to me, you're returned back light years,and as if you have a car with electronic fuel injection, and you want it to do going strong then remove the injection
and put a carburetor,according to you for the year abandoned this system of management of the turbo?
A diesel car to go fast you have to give diesel more from the stronger should be, and therefore better suited for a turbo of the right size,but if the only air you will always be limited,so if you follow the advice of msport you'll see the results

[mariodarkblue]

*admin...for the speech actuator, I agree with you...but after several tests, I have chosen the most effective...so much so the juice does not change.
I know that to go fast for a diesel car the secret ? inject diesel...but the point of it ? I'm not at the limit of the injectors, and original! And then, of which the pump of the 2.4 are we talking about?at the time being taken into account...but it seems to me there was some problem mounting...

[mindafuttu]

Hello mariodarkblue, I wanted to know the total expenses that you have dealt with it on the stylus, having the same car, could you give us a little thought...

[mariodarkblue]

Hello mariodarkblue, I wanted to know the total expenses that you have dealt with it on the stylus, having the same car, could you give us a little thought...

hello...unfortunately I can not tell you the precise expenditure...xk? I turned three years old to a trainer...a big name in the industry...that practically has me INC****OR blood...taking only money, keeping the car 3 months...and no results!!I practically had to redo the whole dac****...

[mindafuttu]

Sin.. But with all those horses don't run the risk of breakage? Especially for them, the thermal stress.

[msport (exil77grande)]

the pump can be mounted on those of a 2.4jtd 136cv that spins at 1400 bar ori respect your 1350 but before I put this last, I advise you to put completely injectors, adjust everything and then if it does not take replace well pump otherwise okay.

[mariodarkblue]

the pump can be mounted on those of a 2.4jtd 136cv that spins at 1400 bar ori respect your 1350 but before I put this last, I advise you to put completely injectors, adjust everything and then if it does not take replace well pump otherwise okay.

Hello msport... up to that pressure keeps the pump on the 2.4 jtd?xk? the jtd115 1,400 and passes them holding...

[mindafuttu]

Should stand up to 1750...plus you have problems with the consumption of the bearings of the posts

[Chris156]

QUOTE]
the low-if you unlock the good limiters do not have to change the time.. I would be really curious to see the map... if you need advice I'm here..

[mindafuttu]

the low-if you unlock the good limiters do not have to change the time.. I would be really curious to see the map... if you need advice I'm here..

Of course... Even if you can?, knowing it, change the first and the most? important torque limiter..

[mariodarkblue]

*chris..you mean the map of the 147?

*msport...but then sure that the injectors of the jtd115 hold is pressure?and those of the mjet?

[mariodarkblue]

..can't edit the msg...anyway, I enclose the map of the 147mjet...c'? the original, the file with which I rolled, and evolution...

anyway, guys...coming back to the pump for the 2.4...I'm not so sure that would sustain those pressures..it is not me...and if it's so? it was..***** and then with the rail and its sensor?
The pump 136hp ? a cp1s and to work to 1,700 bar...you would need a cp1h...and then with the rail and its sensor??
in short, this is to clarify that if you want the cv's also to do with the pump and injectors original..I repeat...are not pulled to the limit..ride the rail to the original!

PS: I ask the mod of the group the msg:( I can't do it..

[mindafuttu]

I'm sorry, but why do you need all those cv if then when you try to use it you have a problem?..
Forgive my question, but ? just for curiosity?...
? tell me the smoke that ****lli is? With the preparation that you have as much as you ? increased?

Unfortunately the post you want to group ? a problem of all..

[mariodarkblue]

I'm sorry, but why do you need all those cv if then when you try to use it you have a problem?..
Forgive my question, but ? just for curiosity?...
? tell me the smoke that ****lli is? With the preparation that you have as much as you ? increased?

Hello, the smoke does not ? exaggerated...of course, stomping all, p? c'?..
For the address of the exploit.... I find that the trackday at isam would put it on the whip any car...let's talk about 40? degrees of the outside temperature...turn of 14.00 in the afternoon...I'll let you guess...and then I said that ? went in the boil, or that I have time...I only said that after a couple of turns made to the cue, I lifted my foot to leave back on the temperature (the oil as written was about 120, and the water about 100)...ah, I don't think you know the isam...say that ? a circuit suitable for motorcycles and small cars (saxo, clio etc)...very very close....to do all of II and rarely III...

[mindafuttu]

Ok I understand, even if my question was about the use of the car on the road

[Chris156]

Mario I have seen the maps of the 147.. inject about 96mm3 to 4000 rpm, not to mention the rail... as turbo pressure at which you are to 4000 rpm 6^? according to me it exceeds 2 bar.
another question.. the map after the map pedal (0E1744) that benefits you from?
Thank You, Chris.

[mariodarkblue]

Mario I have seen the maps of the 147.. inject about 96mm3 to 4000 rpm, not to mention the rail... as turbo pressure at which you are to 4000 rpm 6^? according to me it exceeds 2 bar.
another question.. the map after the map pedal (0E1744) that benefits you from?
Thank You, Chris.

[mindafuttu]

Kill the pi? 105 in the stylus... And how do you burn them? Excuse the questions but I can't see the maps.

[Chris156]

? true!!!! in fact, I didn't want to say it in order not to create a mess, just in case I copied the map!!!! it seems strange to me that does not exceed 1.5 bar turbo with all that diesel.. try to lower the limiter to 1.6 and see if it goes in protection..

[mariodarkblue]

[Chris156]

I thought that someone had copied your map!!!! I know that ? flour your lot...
the only error ? always the same, you can raise the limiters also 100mm3 but if the b.point come to 80mm3 you will always be limited in the management, and you have to trick the time.
for the map after the p?edale can you tell me more about that?

[mindafuttu]

I my stylus, original mechanics, and an injection-75mg of diesel at 100% load and a constant pressure to 1.3 and when I'm on the tablet, he gets a smoke... Will have to? play better on the advances?

[mariodarkblue]

hello mindafuttu...be careful not to confuse mg mm3;) then you also see lim fumes, times, advances and prex rail:)
*chris, I know that should be scaled all the bp (as I have done for the edc15), but the edc16 has a lot of bp, and honestly you get the same result...

[franco75]

75 to a high rpm I do not think that they are few in your place, would put up a bit of the turbo

[mindafuttu]

In fact, I have to finish better advances.. But overall, the car is fine

[Chris156]

hello mindafuttu...be careful not to confuse mg mm3;) then you also see lim fumes, times, advances and prex rail:)
*chris, I know that should be scaled all the bp (as I have done for the edc15), but the edc16 has a lot of bp, and honestly you get the same result...

[mariodarkblue]

hehe in fact, I did another map to my brother...I have yet to try it...I removed some of the increase to the low that I didn't like it for anything...and I tried to give a little more after the 3800giri...both to the rail at the time...and this time I tato max 2.2 degrees of advance...(the other was gold)...

[mindafuttu]

In some things... But if you need to adjust the turbo or the torque limiters can't give the same gains...

[mindafuttu]

C'? also consider that the edc15 x some verses ? pi? unfortunate to be put in place compared to her sister edc16.

[franco75]

hehe in fact, I did another map to my brother...I have yet to try it...I removed some of the increase to the low that I didn't like it for anything...and I tried to give a little more after the 3800giri...both to the rail at the time...and this time I tato max 2.2 degrees of advance...(the other was gold)...

Sorry, but how do you increase the time after 3800 rpm if the map time ? in function of pressure and IQ?

[munro]

Sorry, but how do you increase the time after 3800 rpm if the map time ? in function of pressure and IQ?
why???after 3800 rpm... pressure and iq stop "work"??

[munro]

C'? also consider that the edc15 x some verses ? pi? unfortunate to be put in place compared to her sister edc16.
are you sure of what you are claiming??

[mindafuttu]

are you sure of what you are claiming??

Of course.. I have written, in fact, that at times ? pi? difficult... Xk? ? it is less intuitive to do it that with the edc16.

[mindafuttu]

Sorry, but how do you increase the time after 3800 rpm if the map time ? in function of pressure and IQ?

Keep in mind that c'? also the boost pressure.

[franco75]

I meant to say that you can not manage time is a function of the rpm, or increases as a function of IQ and pressure them, or not increases, you can not choose in the free spins feature.

[munro]

according to me you don't know what you are saying...a edc15 has a 50 of useful maps that can be moddate, and if it ? discussed on various forums all this and more... a edc16 has at least twice and I am talking about models that are not equipped with fap,start and stop buttons to change the map type, alfa dna,etc,etc...? if you say that to you ? easier a edc16 an edc15 obviously I am a jackass....

[mindafuttu]

But I do not mean to say there? that you are stating... re-Read the old posts...
But I don't want to argue... I Repeat that I only said that sometimes the edc15 give me more? problems of fit and finish compared to the edc16...

[Chris156]

another question.. the map after the map pedal (0E1744) that benefits you from?
Thank You, Chris.

:rolleyes:

[mindafuttu]

Guys with my car, I reached 29.9 km/l...
Stilo jtd ex-115hp