Problem Starting Cold, Warm, 1,3 Mjet

[cinqueturbo]

Problem Starting Cold, Warm, 1,3 Mjet

Hi all..

I pi? of the 1.3 Mjet with the problem of starting both hot and cold,

there would be a procedure to be performed as in the VAG?.

or tried with booster both cold and hot, controlled or revisonato starter,

tried both correction inetori that pressure pump in the Diag. to the tour

deleted the EGR clean ducts aspitazione etc-etc,

what is left out or forgotten?

sti 1.3 mi have broken some of the c ...

[carlo abarth]

the phase is good???

[progress]

refusal injectors? phase? tubes interccoler slotted suction pipe semistaccato close to the turbo? test compression?

[cinqueturbo]

Good evening colleges..
then
waste injectors all lined up,it's not? the quore, but that's ok..
phase,the Race that Agila in phase,ok..
pipes, intake, and press ok..
compression 18 18,5 Bar the race, Agila 17,5 18
but these parameters were not to give problems even in the running? however, controlled for the council of pompista...
Maaaaa

[progress]

the phase've checked on both the camshaft, or only on the one where there more' space?
then I would say that serve as parameters to understand something
the engine rpm in the start-up phase? could it be that the fault of the starter motor you have low engine rpm then change the times of the injected pattern in the start-up phase

[cinqueturbo]

the phase've checked on both the camshaft, or only on the one where there more' space?
then I would say that serve as parameters to understand something
the engine rpm in the start-up phase? could it be that the fault of the starter motor you have low engine rpm then change the times of the injected pattern in the start-up phase
I have to be honest..

the phase of the controlled only on the front and in the hole on the exchange..

but I strongly doubt it is problem of phase..

the engine runs perfectly in-line non arra-glia etc-etc

I forgot if loading the diesel 2 times in ignition on almost (normally)

starter motor seems to turn to the great,

but them or overhauled for the better..

and with pooster or cables to another car in motion, the difference is almost imperceptible..

you say you increase the times of injected and the pressure in the start-up phase?

how many points do I start to try 10-15 times and a 2-3% pressure?

[progress]

ninth, I say not to try to lift the times injected, but it is quite another to speak of the search for the problem to go around it
then if you want to bypass it, ask the forummisti experts will advise you, I am here to learn something are a novice with respect to the mappings

[cinqueturbo]

I had got it wrong,

so what can you tell me of these opel?

look, I don't know pi? where to turn head to see who or controlled everything!

Phase-Compression-Injector-Pump-high press.-Pump low press.-fishing vessel etc., etc.

[blackwolf76]

If you have the fuel filter to the glass, plastic agrees that the changes and put the new gasket, taking care to lubricate the thread, so that when you go to tighten, with the hands, face friction and closes properly. If everything is ok, remove the glass fuel pump from the tank and clean it well.

If when you start cold pulls out white smoke and runs irregular, you have to check the tips of the injectors, is almost sure to change. If you have the chance? try it with someone used, given the significant cost, you should also check the pressure regulator diesel, for the pu? be that late to open the rail pressure, and then the starter.

Another advice I can give you ? to verify the deployment and the hydraulic tappets. In many cases, as soon as you bike lose pressure in the oil circuit, and then you give up is the tappets that the tensioner distribution, by sending slightly the car is out-of-phase, and of course, by delaying the departure. You may test better, even putting a little bit of olive oil + dense, type a 15/40 and see if partially resolves, kind of like a litmus test, perhaps they have mounted the oil of low quality? that is download the circuit to latch.

If when you put in motion feel the chain is noisy you need to replace, although the phase is adjusted. On the first series of 1.3 chains approached 200,000 km, on recent models, type GP, and then Opel, hardly goes beyond the 130/140 thousand.


These engines 1.3 are nice until they go well, but, in my opinion, are almost disposable when they reach the limit of miles without problems, around 200,000.

I don't think I have an electrical problem... it may be a palliative, but certainly not a solution to the problem.

[blackwolf76]

PS OT: that area of salerno are you?? Maybe we are near... I do know in pvt.

[cinqueturbo]

thatís not a problem, but this problem is only with two opel..
or a doblo with 300,000 km of mapped defapata and should be a wonder,
a point 2 series with 220-240 of a policeman and goes better than a grande punto 90hp
or my barber with GP 60 thousand that fredo seems to be the administrator of my grandfather, but for the rest there are no problems..
Booo....
if the saw my cinquino we are definitely in the zone.....
are among Angri Scafati...

[James]

I also have the same problem with two opel 1.3!! but for the moment I have not had time to devote myself to solve! I have a combo that cold part is good and hot is the idiot, and another opel that is not good in all cases! what a story!

[alfetta80]

good evening to all!!sorry, I know this post is old but I was reading and or the same problem on a opel corsa, I was wondering, you have solved?and how?any advice? thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cinqueturbo]

good evening to all!!sorry, I know this post is old but I was reading and or the same problem on a opel corsa, I was wondering, you have solved?and how?any advice? thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello Alfetta..
Solved only in part..
replaced starter & battery (starter motor new heavy duty battery fiamm from 70A re-made cables connections masses and positive,
improved by 30-40% but I am not entirely satisfied...

[dvdtuning]

if you gave a finger tip at the time you rendevi account if the problem was actually the starter motor, surely not ? for a solution, but a "patch" to the problem, for? focus the attention on the injection...

[blackwolf76]

A beautiful, revised to the injectors and pump control hp.

[alfetta80]

thanks for the reply guys!!!
the battaria and motor are ok,the diagnosis engine revs ok,low pressure and high pressure diesel ok percentage of apertuara drv ok,egr closed,I can get a good start only down side is that the water temperature sensor:in practice, by unplugging the temp sensor to the ecu gain quite a bit and the car starts!so according to me, or do I revise the injectors or increase the torque at start-up from the map, but this I can't!you know something??

[sergiot]

not being able to modify the mapping you can? insert a resistor of about 500 ohms in series on the water temperature sensor.

[alfetta80]

hello sergiot!!
this solution usually I do it myself when I am not from the map, however, you are a customer, a bit delicate and the car purchased by a little so instead of shred I would prefer to get it from the map is one thing that is a bit more clean!
or asked around a bit and you can' do I need to send the ori and I change the comparison to a review injectors, I think that is to be evaluated!we see a bit that says to me,!!!!!I think that the solution to the point I have three resistance,the map, or review the injectors!!
when I happen on bosch type the last one I did is a multi-edc16 by changing the torque at start-up should be that it is a beauty but them, but I find with the driver is as simple as that!

[cinqueturbo]

if you gave a finger tip at the time you rendevi account if the problem was actually the starter motor, surely not ? for a solution, but a "patch" to the problem, for? focus the attention on the injection...

dvdtuning but with those who celai
if celai with me to see that it is not, or said to have solved anything...
and gioe get a fiat, a bomb..
the drop 30-40% of start times, and you realize what I'm talking about..
test the map it or made but the net improvement, not it or seen..
with regard to the tests made, I would only like her on fire..
and s? I had a way to send the machine to resolve this problem the canvas, I'd send it gladly,
but trust me, we would lose only the time..
and five, I recommend that you do checks and tests that already? done..
I say re-read the whole post..
and I hope that does not happen a ce..or of the genus in the workshop..

[alfetta80]

hello cinqueturbo but in the end, the injectors have been overhauled?

[cinqueturbo]

[QUOTE=cinqueturbo;26496]Problem Starting Cold, Warm, 1,3 Mjet

Problem Starting Cold, Warm, 1,3 Mjet

Problem Starting Cold, Warm, 1,3 Mjet

Hi all..

I pi? of the 1.3 Mjet with the problem of starting both hot and cold,

there would be a procedure to be performed as in the VAG?.

or tried with booster both cold and hot, controlled or revisonato starter,

tried both correction inetori that pressure pump in the Diag. to the tour

deleted the EGR clean ducts aspitazione etc-etc,

what is left out or forgotten?

sti 1.3 mi have broken some of the c ...

Good evening colleges..
then
waste injectors all lined up,it's not? the quore, but that's ok..
phase,the Race that Agila in phase,ok..
pipes, intake, and press ok..
compression 18 18,5 Bar the race, Agila 17,5 18
but these parameters were not to give problems even in the running? however, controlled for the council of pompista...
Maaaaa

I have to be honest..

the phase of the controlled only on the front and in the hole on the exchange..

but I strongly doubt it is problem of phase..

the engine runs perfectly in-line non arra-glia etc-etc

I forgot if loading the diesel 2 times in ignition on almost (normally)

starter motor seems to turn to the great,

but them or overhauled for the better..

and with pooster or cables to another car in motion, the difference is almost imperceptible..

you say you increase the times of injected and the pressure in the start-up phase?

how many points do I start to try 10-15 times and a 2-3% pressure?

I had got it wrong,

so what can you tell me of these opel?

watch I don't know pi? where a bang on the head saw or controlled at all!

Phase-Compression-Injector-Pump-high press.-Pump low press.-fishing vessel etc., etc.

thatís not a problem, but this problem is only with two opel..
or a doblo with 300,000 km of mapped defapata and should be a wonder,
a point 2 series with 220-240 of a policeman and goes better than a grande punto 90hp
or my barber with GP 60 thousand that fredo seems to be the administrator of my grandfather, but for the rest there are no problems..
Booo....
if the saw my cinquino we are definitely in the zone.....
are among Angri Scafati...

Hello Alfetta..
Solved only in part..
replaced starter & battery (starter motor new heavy duty battery fiamm from 70A re-made cables connections masses and positive,
improved by 30-40% but I am not entirely satisfied...

dvdtuning but with those who celai
if celai with me to see that it is not, or said to have solved anything...
and gioe get a fiat, a bomb..
the drop 30-40% of start times, and you realize what I'm talking about..
test the map it or made but the net improvement, not it or seen..
with regard to the tests made, I would only like her on fire..
and s? I had a way to send the machine to resolve this problem the canvas, I'd send it gladly,
but trust me, we would lose only the time..
and five, I recommend that you do checks and tests that already? done..
I say re-read the whole post..
and I hope that does not happen a ce..or of the genus in the workshop..

[sergiot]

hello sergiot!!
this solution usually I do it myself when I am not from the map, however, you are a customer, a bit delicate and the car purchased by a little so instead of shred I would prefer to get it from the map is one thing that is a bit more clean!
or asked around a bit and you can' do I need to send the ori and I change the comparison to a review injectors, I think that is to be evaluated!we see a bit that says to me,!!!!!I think that the solution to the point I have three resistance,the map, or review the injectors!!


I think that the review injectors should not lead to an advantage for this issue
resistance or mapping: the sense of the 2 operations ? identical, with one difference:
resistance it costs little and put on or take off according to need.
for the mapping, I do not know how to do, but from how I tell it not seems neither safe nor economic. then, if the car ? new throw immediately out of warranty.
you have to choose
hello

[alfetta80]

according to my experiences trying to reflux, and the correction to the injectors, and you can not see the flaw, of course I speak in this case!!!! the only solution after you have checked everything, and after making sure that giving it a little more fuel the car a regular part you only need to review them!

[sergiot]

from reading the post friends who complain about the difficulty? starting on the 1300 are all of salerno or surrounding area.
my experience I recommend that you do some of the questions in your surroundings to know if the problem ? widespread.
when this happens often ? caused by fuels of poor quality? that are distributed in that geographical area.
even if it were so? is to much of the increases in diesel fuel at start-up.

[alfetta80]

from reading the post friends who complain about the difficulty? starting on the 1300 are all of salerno or surrounding area.
my experience I recommend that you do some of the questions in your surroundings to know if the problem ? widespread.
when this happens often ? caused by fuels of poor quality? that are distributed in that geographical area.
even if it were so? is to much of the increases in diesel fuel at start-up.

exact the poor quality of fuel and one of the causes which in time creates these defects and if you are in the possibility to increase the diesel fuel from the map, otherwise it is necessary to calibrate and review the injectors!!a piece of advice that I can give you in these cases and to disconnect the sens temp water if the machine is a regular part and the defect goes away already you can start to make you a good reasoning....for example, if a sensor is damaged,a fuel filter clogged, low pressure, or that I know an out-of-phase, etc, etc, you can also give a bucket in the diesel but the fault remains indeed gets worse I don't know if I have explained!!!!

[sergiot]

the controls that indicate they are without a doubt correct and relevant, but surely the person who wrote the post must have made them.
if you have the facts it has found anomalies that otherwise would have made the other questions.
and then both busted up the engine ?, otherwise complain something in gear , not only in the mass in motion
however, just add 30% fuel in the pi? and start-up greatly improves.

[cinqueturbo]

according to my experiences trying to reflux, and the correction to the injectors, and you can not see the flaw, of course I speak in this case!!!! the only solution after you have checked everything, and after making sure that giving it a little more fuel the car a regular part you only need to review them!


Phase-Compression-Injector-Pump-high press.-Pump low press.-fishing vessel etc., etc.

[cinqueturbo]

I ask you to close the discussion because? you continue to write on talks already? the treaties and without policy..
Sorry for the rant but it seems to me that we are going against the logic..
if one writes of having gi?: Stage-Compression-Injector-Pump-high press.-Pump-low-press.-fishing tank-etc,etc
I don't know what you need to continue to write on this post..