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Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 14:08
As the title suggests, I have remapped the car of my friend, I can not get the power that I want to
The prex turbo get to that goal, the prex rail, but it has not gained the cv results.
(Not having special programs with the elm327 can I check the prex turbo and air temp, throttle the load required the prex rail)
I disabled using the controls, The egr, I have not been able to verify if you ? cos?, I can say that the machine is not d? failure of any kind.
I kindly ask if someone could you tell me where I'm wrong or if c'? some limiter or the bit that locks the deal? max diesel that I want in the map.
Ah, in the map posted, before the torque curve c'? a map that limits the torque on the basis of the prex atmospheric that is the car, I tried to move that, but without a substantial change.
I have adequate carrying values just above the reference

jolidj
27-01-2013, 14:18
the map and a bit to do it all. if nn touches the oil or at least his limiters you believe that I get cv. 't go with the I have the holy spirit. prex turbo equal, out-of-tune related and changed bad, the pedal 3% nn and nothing, the prex rail idem . etc etc etc. rifalla and you'll see the cv's come out, and how. good job.

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 15:00
the map and a bit to do it all. if nn touches the oil or at least his limiters you believe that I get cv. 't go with the I have the holy spirit. prex turbo equal, out-of-tune related and changed bad, the pedal 3% nn and nothing, the prex rail idem . etc etc etc. rifalla and you'll see the cv's come out, and how. good job.

I am attaching a map that I tried and that was not updated in the map to torque about the prex of the atmosphere.
The diesel is not v? touched to the logic of things.. if you look at the times of injection breakpoints come in 100mg....you know how much????
X that machine x is a mod stock is more than enough even if you change the crowd......(110cv of 2007, the times are almost identical)
The prex turbo was originally limited to 1.07 bar, do not look at the map turbo, why? there has 2 limiters, one based on the prex, atmospheric, and another based on the temperature of the suction line.. and those 2 restricted prex ori to 1.07, then moving to 1.20 now comes what you see in the map turbo..... (Maps of the 90hp looks much like that of the 110cv 2007)
The maps of conversion Nm>>Iq the same as they break up to 450Nm, I x the objective to be achieved advances......
I touched The maps an overboost x nn give peaks.. in fact arrives to 1.20 rarely get to touch the 1,22.... for which x have a fixed geometry, I think that I could leave it cos

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 15:01
here is The map

msport (exil77grande)
27-01-2013, 15:02
no offense, I wrote a comment and it took 10 minutes to write, but accidentally didn't save the answer,now we tried again, but if I can give you a tip or not to put the hand on the cars of the other, or do a course.

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 15:03
Ah, to regard the prex rail, I gave it a p? pi? of prex, when it requires a deal? of diesel over 43mg.
If you refer to the table of the ecm any version.. go completely out of the way.
The prex rail ? an integral part of advances if you go to logic x.....

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 15:04
no offense, I wrote a comment and it took 10 minutes to write, but accidentally didn't save the answer,now we tried again, but if I can give you a tip or not to put the hand on the cars of the other, or do a course.


Where do you think ? wrong...??

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 15:07
Do not offend me, I just know that I used the same way, a manual published (logic I mean), and I saw that things really begin to carry I don't see why? here ? all busted....

msport (exil77grande)
27-01-2013, 15:15
then we start from the map enrichment, acceleration,increases data or too low or too high, here and there, without meaning and without the policy,also the map has similar paecchi points in the negative and very,egr off ok,limiter, torque too low for the rest I do not like it, but might as well go 1CA0A8 to 1CA1C6 all negative because it is what it is? from 1CA1C6 to 1CA546 here almost all negative, because it is what it is? from 1CC306 to 1CC498 why and what is it? on the timing of an overboost on a machine stock because you acted in that way? from 1E3320 to 1E353E what is it and why? from 1E479E to 1E4864 what is it and why? all of the maps turbo made malissimio and without logic, and also them something negative and increases in some points exaggerated,rail pressure touched evil without logic and exaggerated at some points,I would add pressure limiter rail and other rail maps ori,other torque limiters ori,all the maps are the most important injection ori,for the rest, renewal of the previous board, or you do not put a hand on the machines of others, or make a serious course and then have fun,also move in the beginners section, but, according to me would be better in another section,good continuation.

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 15:39
1CA546 the break indicate rpm and maf, seen that comes to 10,000, for which the values are lambda, if 1000=14,7 I changed to the stoichiometric ratio, and considered that the egr ? closed x do not smoke I kept myself skinny with a value of maf is low, x enrich up to 17,05:1 to 1160, which corresponds to approximately 68mg..... I redid in other words, a stoichiometric ratio is almost fixed in the arch of the range of the engine rpm by referring to the maf.
1CC306 are various limiters according to the speed....
Ah, the map accelerator you seems to be made to the hell... look good.... indeed, pi? that look good to take the focus of the original and take it... and then tell me the opposite... ? made in the steps... the hated.... now, at least according to him, the feel linear..to every little change in the pedal feel that the machine meets both the x go for decelerate..
Times oberboost I acted in that way x does not give him the peaks of prex... in fact, it comes to the prex desired without piccate....
The maps turbo work depending on the temperature of the manifold and the atmospheric.. I appropriate to that goal.... practically in the summer, the machine accusation less loss of power due to the adjustment of the temperature of the intercooler...
The management turbo looks like the golds of the 110cv.. If I was wrong I those of the ford-how they work???

Maybe you're right that I should do a course.... but only I......??? :confused:

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 15:42
The map that starts at the address 1E479E that ? an error.....

msport (exil77grande)
27-01-2013, 16:24
I did not understand the last sentence, what do you mean and who you are referring to but you can see here, the fact is that the problem you have and ask for an opinion you and I are limited to give you my personal opinion that is not certainly the law because the world is beautiful because it is varied so you should simply accept the constructive criticism since I am not limited to criticize but I have + or - say what I see and I think and sincerely you touched on everything except what was needed in reality,also if cho is written what is it and why do we not done because I don't know what we're talking about, but to understand your way of acting, you know that these machines have made about 20 not to mention the other with the same engine, I think we get about a hundred between mappings,egr off or dpf off and then if you allow saw that my is not a hobby as well as for you but a profession, I think that some of the I'll be proven,for the rest do as much as you good continuation.

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 21:10
The fact ? that here already? I feel the same answers of the other forums..... if you're under a certain numbers of messages, or 6 new... the answers are always the same.. and yet I have kept in line with the manual that circulates in the other forum posted say by themselves that are qu?.....

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 21:15
The power that I set after various tests we have arrived, but not in that method.. 123cv/3800gg and 28kg/m 1850giri., for? the machine doesn't have the delivery that I set. The owner of the car ? satisfied, I no...

jolidj
27-01-2013, 21:21
feel if nn mistake you said that the machine nn cv cercavi. seeing the map I gave you my opinion in that respect. even if you give the same answer in the other forum , see if you can find a forum on mirura x thee, here we are humble people who accept advice and views. if you are you ok so the machine good x te , . 10-15 hp you've got them, and if your client and to place so so good. the thing that I understand, and if it is the machine went well x you asked for opinions here??
According to me you still have a lot to study , if you believe that you know everything, then according to me nn're on the good way.
If I can give a piece of advice.... Try to study and listen , no you never stop learning..
Nn I want to open polemics x nn I have neither the desire nor interest. I wish you a good job.
I'm sorry x my opinion about it.

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 21:58
10/15cv nn has taken them,(maybe)? the strange thing. I think that you have something else, why? I opened once the hood had the recovery tube of the oil broken, and she had bonded with silicone.. in Fact, when you ? unplugged the machine had worsened the yield... seen that the air passing l? thank you a good reading of the MAF.
I am thinking of trying the car the original to see how much you walk, seen that already? he came to me mapped by another that I don't know who he is... and the machine with the cvs promised were not there....
The opinion that I asked for was to know if c'? a map or a bit that blocks the supply of the fuel beyond a certain threshold, we say type the 147 jtd x example.....
I asked for only one.... even why? a part of the maps (torque and turbo) arise from the 110cv, the times are almost identical, the map conversion as well, it's only that that has 110cv this does not even reach to 97cv....
If diesel, times (break the flow and prex are identical) and turbo are nearly equal, should this car to get at least a 105hp.. but even x dream.....

pabloescobar
27-01-2013, 22:08
Tap only the injection, limiters, torque and turbo pressure no more? 10% and see how it goes. With regard to enrichment and acceleration, let it be for now and see how you go

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 22:18
prover? before ori x to see how much v?.... that values pulls me out, then? how do you say you... I want to see if the maf ? good....

msport (exil77grande)
27-01-2013, 22:29
The fact ? that here already? I feel the same answers of the other forums..... if you're under a certain numbers of messages, or 6 new... the answers are always the same.. and yet I have kept in line with the manual that circulates in the other forum posted say by themselves that are qu?.....

the fact is that you have not understood that we have given you valuable advice but you do not want to listen to this is not to criticize, but you are out of the way,here are all treated the same ****llo and there are children and stepchildren, whether you are new whether you are a long time and with many messages on the forum, I hope I was clear enough.

Cristiano75
27-01-2013, 23:14
msport mhai wrote: other torque limiters ori

What are the torque limiters that I left the ORI? Perhaps they could be the ones that I block the dispensing of diesel fuel.
Could you kindly post them, write them since I can't download anything...
I would be grateful...
The limiters that ecm indicate to the addresses 1E8F88, 1E8FCA, 1E900C, those of what is referred to?

jolidj
28-01-2013, 13:40
in the meantime, you need to make sure that the machine ori is in place. put it ori and provala. this nn and a edc15 and no you can take the info of the edc15 looking for it in the ford edc16.
test ori and let us know how it goes then you think and apply your ideas x to make a modifica.buon work

Cristiano75
28-01-2013, 15:18
in the meantime, you need to make sure that the machine ori is in place. put it ori and provala. this nn and a edc15 and no you can take the info of the edc15 looking for it in the ford edc16.
test ori and let us know how it goes then you think and apply your ideas x to make a modifica.buon work

In fact, I was thinking just that.... put ori the machine and see how v?... seen that several of the mechanics have put your hand to that engine... I would not want something that I go...
Any of you part of the elm327 that I see a few parameters in the motor c'? any interface that can monitor the ecu so pi? esaustile.

jolidj
28-01-2013, 15:38
to do serious work you need an official diagnosis.

Cristiano75
28-01-2013, 15:44
to do serious work you need an official diagnosis.

X the vw there is the vag-com x the ford can be a thing of the comparative nn exists in the trade....?

magi1984
28-01-2013, 15:47
you can take autocom clone ? a tester multi-brand, but it works great

Cristiano75
28-01-2013, 16:03
you can take autocom clone ? a tester multi-brand, but it works great

I was thinking... maybe take? that. They speak well.
I found the network cable for FORD VCM OBD, you know that if you could go?
I had bought a cable FORD USB SCANNER was only one... didn't read even the injectors..... returned....

mattycar
28-01-2013, 17:13
this type of engine will not ? easy to make,why? the engine ? a while sitting in the factory.

Cristiano75
28-01-2013, 19:48
this type of engine will not ? easy to make,why? the engine ? a while sitting in the factory.

I have to put it back ORI x see how v?... if everything ? ok.. then there must be a bit or map beyond a certain threshold does not send, why? if the map key are similar to the 110, I don't see why? does not reach even 97....
This "problem" has all the engines of the psa group like this 90hp...

mattycar
29-01-2013, 18:02
I have to put it back ORI x see how v?... if everything ? ok.. then there must be a bit or map beyond a certain threshold does not send, why? if the map key are similar to the 110, I don't see why? does not reach even 97....
This "problem" has all the engines of the psa group like this 90hp...
Try it ori to check that everything is ok.
When the avr? permission to view the attachments do a look at your map

James
29-01-2013, 21:20
this type of engine will not ? easy to make,why? the engine ? a while sitting in the factory.
Mattycar, I might know which province are you from?

msport (exil77grande)
29-01-2013, 22:19
guys try to stay on topic, thanks.

Cristiano75
12-02-2013, 23:41
Hello all, I tried again yesterday the car with the map ORI and the power ? of 90hp at 4,000 and 22kg/m at 2050 rpm.
The strange fact ? that is with the map ori that changed the air mass meter d? always the same value if not more? low.
With the map ori the prex turbo ? 1,07 bar, that mod ? 1.22 bar. ? the maf is a p? ruined....?? even why? at 2500 rpm, with the throttle at 100% you will hear that c'? a hole of the provision, it seems that the walls then again, in fact, around that regime the MAF lowers by about 20% reading and then go to the top.. The egr I closed the map by the resetting of the 2 cakes....

The car has 85,000 km approximately.....

tezzero
13-02-2013, 00:14
A classic symptom from MAF fault...

explode82
13-02-2013, 00:21
then things in my experience can be 3/4 of what fast and simple maf failure,what's also likely the egr is faulty electronically speak and ? needless to close it, that does not resolve why? the problem ? electric, similar to the egr ? the pierburg turbine seeds short-circuited,what is the last and very rare this is ? the dispenser double, which is on the suction circuit

Cristiano75
13-02-2013, 01:30
then things in my experience can be 3/4 of what fast and simple maf failure,what's also likely the egr is faulty electronically speak and ? needless to close it, that does not resolve why? the problem ? electric, similar to the egr ? the pierburg turbine seeds short-circuited,what is the last and very rare this is ? the dispenser double, which is on the suction circuit

dispenser double, which is on the suction circuit... cos'?? how can I verify that it is faulty....
You may be + precise??
The egr to know if it was faulty electrically-how can I verify it??
The turbine ? fixed geometry, the wastegate ? controlled tyre, I think of depression.... The prex goal is respected both in gold and in mod.

explode82
13-02-2013, 02:04