View The Full Version : Problem with Audi A6, the ecu does not communicate with the programmers
magi1984
18-01-2013, 19:18
hello guys, I present the problem.
today I went to see her, I do not s? who has changed and who the hell has the fact, the fact is that the car as soon as it warms up it does not exceed 30km/h. diagnosed with no error and the communication ? stable.
if I try to load the original file with galletto v2 clone, or with kess v2 original ecu will not accept any command.
I can not do even the ID!
with the cock says to me, ECU locked in reading, turn on the engine and allow to idle for at least 30 minutes and then try again.
with kess v2 says: security code wrong, even with the mode? Recovery gives me this error and I can not write it.
now I removed the ecu and Monday I go to bdm, but I wanted to know, I exist how to program this ecu to the dealer?
? a last attempt that I want to do first is to use the bdm
excuse the magi, but the tour does that mean?? I believed that the bdm was the tour....for? I think you might try it in boot mode..
hello magi ? strange, but it could be that the coach has put on the block in reading x-protect the file changed,so you can always try bdm I think you should not have any problems.
dvdtuning
18-01-2013, 21:09
Giarras why? ? you can encode the file to not do this read to anyone?
Giarras why? ? you can encode the file to not do this read to anyone?
you ? possible, but rare ,there are trainers that I want to see the files in the mod, but given that the car in question nn goes well, and only my assumption..but it could also be cos?, for? I know you can always rewrite other files xch? this operation only affects the reading.
magi1984
18-01-2013, 21:56
unfortunately, no, not me, writes...at the desk, I mean collegadomi you pin of the controller, without the use of the bdm. In the case of both can you tell me on which pin to connect to and how?
ecutuningpro
18-01-2013, 22:34
You should do it directly with the bdm.
frantik3
18-01-2013, 22:57
the flaw in the bdm secure and touched the bit of blokko operations eobd only in the bdm read and write
I agree with the bdm and the best method to solve this kind of problems,for curiosity' the file ori where did you get it ?
magi1984
19-01-2013, 00:26
in addition to asking here, I've asked on a couple of the foreign forum and in one of these I have given up.
msport (exil77grande)
19-01-2013, 18:42
also ecusafe has the function of read block and I have to say that long ago, I had a similar experience with a golf v, which was blocked with ecusafe of the way by another preparer that he was aware that the machine would then pass from me,the moral of the story:
I had to read the file.
I have procured a file ori
seen the changes of luca stanca etc ecusafe in order to avoid confusion, I took the file ori and the past with ecusafe only for the write lock without luca stanca and I have seen modified points that are a bit one after the other
I found the address on my back up back ori and all ok
I hope this information was useful.
magi1984
19-01-2013, 19:08
the moral of the story ? I have to get her in the bdm....heheh, thanks for the advice.
now I do a mod with ecusafe to see locate these bits damn that block the ecu read
dvdtuning
19-01-2013, 21:21
This lock ? also possible on the edc15?
No I believe that you can do on edc15
Now that I think about it the map3d it seems to me that having a function
for the encryption, but I don't ever proven
dvdtuning
19-01-2013, 21:27
happened on audi a4 1.9 130hp, n? data n? read n? write with galletto 1250 and mppsV5.
ok for reading problems, etc, etc...but are you sure that the fault ? in the ecu??
magi1984
20-01-2013, 00:30
not ? definitely of the equipment given that both work perfectly
I meant to say that maybe the car does not go for other problems with the diagnosis does not see it..
Gianpy80
20-01-2013, 10:22
to me ? the same thing happened and the map was protected from read and write.. As you others have said you have to go to BDM.
I agree I capit? to me with edc16, and made them my first read-and-write control unit and? perfectly test and go ir? quiet
magi1984
21-01-2013, 15:23
problem solved by directly loading the file nofap with BDM :D
it was the only alternative..better cos? the case resolved.
Gianpy80
22-01-2013, 12:18
but then, if the map ? protected you can't do the reading but the writing? via serial I mean..
magi1984
22-01-2013, 12:19
no, I was pi? even the ID
Gianpy80
22-01-2013, 16:50
gi? and true, I have not thought about.. if it does not ID does not write.. but then if I protect a file with ecusafe for example, once you've written I can re-read or rewrite only in the BDM? the cio? not even the author can? pi? communicate or protection ? linked for example to the SN of the interface?
magi1984
22-01-2013, 17:01
Gianpy80
22-01-2013, 17:37
msport (exil77grande)
23-01-2013, 08:34
and I would add to be careful when you use ecusafe to eliminate the dpf on the vag group, because if I remember correctly on those ecuafe automatically enable the protection that you have to disable before processing the file.
mattycar
23-01-2013, 12:18
to me ? happened with a peugeot 308.they had disabled the dpf,but still rigererare,the owner ? gone before the peugeot, and couldn't get in in the diagnosis,after he asked me if I could solve the problem without opening the ecu,
I recommended to come back from the trainer who had done the work.who told them that the work was done well.
in the end he had to get another ecu
I think I have the same problem... Audi 1.9 105hp, a few months ago I did make the luca stanca by a preparer and now I cannot access to the ecu...
With the mpps clone manages to make id the ecu but then when I do get to read it crashes the program..
Now I also have a rooster v50, if I try to id the ecu is responding with the window: "ecu protected read/write to keep the car at idle for 30 minutes and try again"
The only way then ? read it on the bench? Confirmed?
carlo abarth
24-01-2014, 00:05
only bdm !!!
pabloescobar
24-01-2014, 14:41
I agree only with the bdm in fact, I went crazy on the map luca stanca golf v series (140 hp, which had been prepared badly by some trainer in a way or another, the made it back golds with a file found on the forum but did not ? of all over. It would take a backup ori
rodcraft86
01-11-2014, 15:27
guys I reconnect to this post why? I ? had a similar thing on a edc16c39 fiat, virtually I read with kess in 40 minutes, at the time of writing I have made the ID and everything is ok, when I selected the file to write to, arrived at the 10% gave me error write to me, telling me if I wanted to do the recovery, but not even that ? game, same error, then I took the cock and I did the ecu id, after having made it, it gave me an error, but once the file is selected, the ah written without problems, after writing for? you ? turned on the yellow light of the key with under the written CODE, then before turning it on I got multiecuscan and I checked the error, it gave me error eeprom, I have reset and done a realignment proxy for safety, I turned on again and the light was gone, the car ? the game immediately and that's fine, can anyone tell me what can? to be successful, and why? the kess not the wrote?
fabiovts88
04-01-2015, 01:03
can you give me a hand? I tried to id the ecu on a 500 abarth ? who has mapped previously has had the good idea of putting the written abarth on hw and sw parts how do I remove it once and read it on the boot? how did they do such a thing?
cinqueturbo
04-01-2015, 10:16
can you give me a hand? I tried to id the ecu on a 500 abarth ? who has mapped previously has had the good idea of putting the written abarth on hw and sw parts how do I remove it once and read it on the boot? how did they do such a thing?
Open your discussion and perhaps e-mail reading
frantik3
04-01-2015, 10:25
Easy to email the file and what you want to be written
gi? and true, I have not thought about.. if it does not ID does not write.. but then if I protect a file with ecusafe for example, once you've written I can re-read or rewrite only in the BDM? the cio? not even the author can? pi? communicate or protection ? linked for example to the SN of the interface?
you can write in serial with mpps directly waiting for 45 min with the ignition turned on.
to read you have to go to force bdm
If I am able to do a buckup full bdm if the I put back on the oroginale, he loses the lock, or that you can't pull away in any case?
If you put on a file ori and as the output from the mother house..
ok cinquesturbo understand, but I in the car I took it in the car already mapped, I don't understand what kind of error happened, I find myself in a situation where the wing nut ten the message that the ecu is locked, it read 30 minutes, the mpps is id the ecu but then when it's time to write it crashes at access security and does not go ahead, and the kess tells me security code invalid.
I downloaded a ori from the alientech data bank, but that is only a flash then the ecu bdm was not id ecu even from bdm, open tk in alientech have sent a protocol and are able to do buckup complete but the ecu is not the original, if I use e2p and micro that buckup, and then reconstruct the map ori with ecm can I solve the problem?
You seem to not be very practical.. and you flatter me coming behind..
mail files to BDM with a likely block and file golds that you have to your disposal..
it is not a matter of practicality, it is a problem quite atypical so I do not know how to deal with it.
however, erro file ori and the reading bdm
it is not a matter of practicality, it is a problem quite atypical so I do not know how to deal with it.
however, erro file ori and the reading bdm
Excuse a moment, let me understand, but you have written some files into this car and from then on you will not prefer to read and write?
To me, arises the question of the limit of writing that is heard around...
However, this and the File Ori For BDM Write it directly and see what happens..
Of course, once you've seen that acts as the you need to manage FAP & EGR in the Mod files I can't find the appropriate term CA..RE included the map..
If not a then are exhausted to the Koken write eprom.. I can't help you without having the car in hand..
the machine I read it, I told him that the map he had was not made very well and that the exclusions were to be revised, he told me that he wanted to increase the turbo, and I told him to mount it that then we will have set the machine once, ordered turbo magigiorato 17-54, arrived assembled, I did two encodings which he was interested with the vdcs and it was gone the can line by the car, I re-encoded everything and then gave me the problem, by bdm I managed to download the buckup with the map that was inside, and from the bdm, I have written a test and an ori, reconstructing it, because the file from the obd and bdm are different is missing a piece.
in bdm the ecu goes, and I can do what I want, I loaded a file with dpf off egr off and temperature probe 1 off and the machine has no problems, I just wanted to restore the programming obd how to set a turbo of its kind in the bdm I long to always unmount the ecu program, recovery test...
the fact is that the diagnosis communicate seamlessly with the ecu can see the errors and do everything, because the tools for chiptuning does not make id the ecu and do not communicate...
with your file I don't understand what should I resolve that with my I have not solved, however I feel and then after I upgrade the rear
it happened to me on my Audi A8, you had to hold the car with the ignition turned on for about 30-40 minutes, the crazy thing that this procedure does not work ever.
I discovered on a forum stranger that had to do with the door side open. I could not believe it but it worked
I forgot to say that the problem was generated by an incorrect entry of codes from the Vag
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