opel zafira year 08 1.9 mtj 120 hp 8valvole.....

[michell]

hello there and never come out to this machine we put so much time starting and diagnosis is the sensor phase of the cam ,however, and the model 8v
and then the door to the inside of the pulley of the distribution ...
I have changed 2 to test also that of the motor shaft spins marks the righteous,those of the tree 850giri and the cam 425giri is making me a little crazy because if it is problem of diesel not I should give in diagnosis that error ....anyway someone can give me info thanks raga.....

[FidodidoTuning]

Often, and the phase is not perfect...

[sno74]

according to me that is signs camshaft sensor ? normal to me was the case with one that would not start ir? in the diagnosis gave me always camshaft sensor I replaced then the problem was in the system of the diesel fuel, have you checked the low pressure all ok.......

[carlo abarth]

if you drag and drop the motor a bit of time can also give that error even if it is not him !!! try to monitor in the start-up pressure diesel fuel and everything else!!!

[FidodidoTuning]

If the error on the sensor of the problem and in that area
Certainly not for diesel
Check also the same crankshaft camshaft...where it reads the sensor

[sno74]

you are right in the first place a controllatina to the stage, then go with pressure diesel these for the phase I know that you need to dime..............

[michell]

If the error on the sensor of the problem and in that area
Certainly not for diesel
Check also the same crankshaft camshaft...where it reads the sensor
I made the distribution now, in fact, the first put it up when I changed the belt , the second after a two-hour ....got to the point I am ,I believe that this error is like that of the phedra that every failure brings you always the same words......I have to check the pressure diesel in everything and for everything---.... you are, what you have changed or found????

[michell]

you are right in the first place a controllatina to the stage, then go with pressure diesel these for the phase I know that you need to dime..............
such as dime has all the points ,just that you put yourself in the phase before removing so you signs the comerail and go ...

[sno74]

such as dime has all the points ,just that you put yourself in the phase before removing so you signs the comerail and go ...
you're right, the template should be only for 16v as insigna for? the problem was before doing the belt when you did the belt for phase control........

[michell]

you're right, the template should be only for 16v as insigna for? the problem was before doing the belt when you did the belt for phase control........
no already before and came up with this problem ,and it does it for both hot and cold.....

[sno74]

the first control that you can do on the diesel get a pressure gauge and connects to the discharge side of the fuel filter you have to have 2.5 bar about if you are affixed try to post the pressures that you see on the rail when the machine stanta starting.....

[legendaryslave]

not and that is a little schiavellato the pulley camshaft

[cicciocar]

I legendaryslave test is to check the keyway on the pulley camshaft ,and sometimes it breaks.

[michell]

Yep, this model and the ciavette and complete to the pulley and die-cast anyway and apposto.devo check
Well the diesel, I know.

[sno74]

You do one thing fast that maybe it takes away a doubt, disassemble the pressure regulator to the pump and see if the rubber those seals are good or gi? that ? jun bills to me with some of those were.......

[michell]

You do one thing fast that maybe it takes away a doubt, disassemble the pressure regulator to the pump and see if the rubber those seals are good or gi? that ? jun bills to me with some of those were.......

thanks sno74 just return the car I think in the week the lighthouse this test and I'll know thanks again

[munro]

don't waste time...the car ? out-of-phase....for info to all, even on the jtd 8v c'? the template but only for the motor shaft...
the toothed pulley of the motor shaft carries a sign but did not ? never 100% accurate...
the marks are to be put in phase with the marks on the timing belt, not with the references on the engine because if the same with the latter in a moment of tension the belt from the drive shaft "always steals the middle of the tooth," which is equivalent to 2-3 degrees of deviation....
also, I've heard that before disassembling you need to jot down the points of reference phase....
but if we, for example year putting it out of phase??we mark the car believing that it is in phase and the other one is not ? ...*****and say stupid ones that year, the mass fuorifase pi? stupid of us that we repeat the same mistake.....
the only way to remove the doubt that the car is perfectly in phase and or fasrla with a new belt with the references, or obtain the template....

[FidodidoTuning]

I agree
I don't understand you insist to say diesel
If the diagnosis from the failure on the sensor or phase ilbproblema and them
If you are hungry, you drink a glass of water?
I you are on a diet aahhahaha

[progress]

I check the phase in the specific key pulley camshaft and check the crankshaft sensor of the same if everything is in place, check also the toothed pulley crankshaft often break the stick, die-cast because of the tightening is carried out with air gun attention should be tightened with torque wrench and its counter-torque tool

[tezzero]

When the car ? game is good?? has a satisfactory performance??

[legendaryslave]

don't waste time...the car ? out-of-phase....for info to all, even on the jtd 8v c'? the template but only for the motor shaft...
the toothed pulley of the motor shaft carries a sign but did not ? never 100% accurate...
the marks are to be put in phase with the marks on the timing belt, not with the references on the engine because if the same with the latter in a moment of tension the belt from the drive shaft "always steals the middle of the tooth," which is equivalent to 2-3 degrees of deviation....
also, I've heard that before disassembling you need to jot down the points of reference phase....
but if we, for example year putting it out of phase??we mark the car believing that it is in phase and the other one is not ? ...*****and say stupid ones that year, the mass fuorifase pi? stupid of us that we repeat the same mistake.....
the only way to remove the doubt that the car is perfectly in phase and or fasrla with a new belt with the references, or obtain the template....
quote the famous racket on the motor shaft

[michell]

[QUOTE=munro;23336]don't waste time...the car ? out-of-phase....for info to all, even on the jtd 8v c'? the template but only for the motor shaft...
the toothed pulley of the motor shaft carries a sign but did not ? never 100% accurate...
the marks are to be put in phase with the marks on the timing belt, not with the references on the engine because if the same with the latter in a moment of tension the belt from the drive shaft "always steals the middle of the tooth," which is equivalent to 2-3 degrees of deviation....
also, I've heard that before disassembling you need to jot down the points of reference phase....
but if we, for example a year, putting it out of phase??we mark the car

Ok I like what you said.and it doesn't fold six abbadtanza clear on things;
But I post before I said that I did the distribution,so new belt
And then points visible.in most of them, I marked everything.
the first belt ,xrche the machine only owner bought it from the dealer
everything you said I already did it myself 2 times...anyway, give me time, I shall answer...and the car is already arrived so...

[michell]

When the car ? game is good?? has a satisfactory performance??

The car will be fine.I am the end and went to perugia.nonperde couple beats runs normal
Only snag or cold or hot must turn at least 2-3-4 times
And then part the rest is perfect, and I repeat, in diagnosis only that error.

[michell]

quote the famous racket on the motor shaft

Things the racket. The stick? maybe you're confused.

[cicciocar]

I gather that for racket means the template that goes on the crankshaft pulley to the stage.

[sno74]

Then you do one thing in the mail all the complete data of drive type motor kw and cos? we take away all the doubts of the phase or timing tools.....

[alberto.bf]

Hello, sorry to hot as well?

[tezzero]

[motorsport]

I think the problem c'? you on the stage,already? and happened a few times to a colleague,please let us know your outcome!!

[michell]

Then you do one thing in the mail all the complete data of drive type motor kw and cos? we take away all the doubts of the phase or timing tools.....
hello sno74 in these days, I should bring the car and I'll know in the first place the data so you can see what it is,anyway, sn of the idea that it is not the phase because the mass infase I pulled the belt or forgiven the precise points of the new belt and then ammeno that,don't bring the stick below that in the motor shaft
and is moved to the cmq, which I have not unscrewed because it brings only the screws of the pulley,,,,according to me ? press diesel then I can also make mistakes -....
anyway I cio also ******** and is perfectly in phase,,,,and then let's be clear, the machine goes very well ? went to perugia and back the machine goes a bomb l,the only thing the you know what for both hot and cold....va bo I know.....

[michell]

hi guys finally fixed everything thanks for your help and you are big in the end you had to reason with the people that said that it was out of phase when in fact it was the pulley under
of the motor shaft so as to have someone call the (Racket) .....as a result, still fortunately I had du the same machines, and I've done some tests anyway thanks again closed discussion...

[sno74]

I'm glad that you ended when you have these doubts, we must always do the test with the templates if there are I have just finished a navara 2010 was off the chain a little, but not tell you before you get them how many tests I had already? the fact....

[FidodidoTuning]

L important and would have solved
The diagnosis rubbish don't say,you'd already said as a response...

[progress]

surfacing again, the answer I gave it back, not tightened never pulley with pneumatic guns in the twist it breaks the stick, die-cast,should always be tightened with torque and counter-torque wrench

[cicciocar]

I am also glad that between us we can get to solve some problems.

[michell]

thanks raga all together, we can grow with our experiences

[legendaryslave]

I gather that for racket means the template that goes on the crankshaft pulley to the stage.
sorry for the titardo the answer is the template that you place on the motor shaft in the shape of a racket typical de jtd and I saw that the case ? massive fixed makes me happy