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Fede78
11-01-2013, 19:37
Hi, this unit that you sappiata deceives only the signal of the rail? You can increase 60/70 hp only with the rail?
Let's say that, for example, a tractor 230CV with the module, the damage to 280CV...
To me seems like a lot just by changing the rail...

alberto.bf
11-01-2013, 20:43
Hello, I am a neo-mounted one, but they are not so reliable!!!!
I know they are cip deceivers I think a maximum of 10 % of the cv and depends on the medium.
tested only on diesel cars
I do not like so much.....
However, for nn have problems tarale up to 40%.
I hope you have been helpful.
Hello Alberto

munro
11-01-2013, 20:57
Hi, this unit that you sappiata deceives only the signal of the rail? You can increase 60/70 hp only with the rail?
Let's say that, for example, a tractor 230CV with the module, the damage to 280CV...
To me seems like a lot just by changing the rail...
you have to see that tractor you speak, and especially if the model in question ? with or without turbo with wastegate.....
usually these modules by increasing the diesel fuel in the combustion chamber to increase the volume of the exhaust gas that is moving the faster the turbo, with the consequent increase of the press turbo....
if the tractor is mounted on a turbine without WG the press, therefore, the diesel fuel in most rooms "bounce"...
on some engines, agricultural-industrial, then many times then the engines totally identical are calibrated with an output lower cv for the needs of the market..type have certain kinds of power,these outputs lower in cv are often obtained by changing the software management and then also press the rail and press the turbo...

Fede78
11-01-2013, 21:31
It is, in fact, also in the file golds of the various mappings, the differences in the pressure of the rail... but also in the torque limiters...
About limiters... the form does not alter the limiters.... so how do they increase torque and power with the form?
The limiter should not, however, "limit"?

munro
11-01-2013, 21:42
the limiter limits the output of a certain iq..but the module bypasses the limiter because it makes believe the ecu of a rail pressure much lower than that, actually ?...of conseguenzal'ecu raises the press believing inject to 1400 bar to es, but it actually is injecting to 1600 bar...

Fede78
11-01-2013, 21:56
Ah here is the reason why deceiving the signal there are increases in cos? high...

michele30
08-02-2013, 19:00
? true that these modules ruin the inettori and the pump, why? run the machine with pressure is too high?
I time ago I had one of the dipa sport dismantled, why? I have said so, right?

mattycar
09-02-2013, 09:48
Me had ruined the pump,

igor
17-02-2013, 18:00
hi guys I mount the modules on vehicles, scania and I have to say that go really well,we are able to achieve gains of up to 20 %
while still maintaining a good reliability, it always depends on how one of them tara
I have mounted almost a hundred now, and I have no problems never had
I mount the "rapid" of the dimsport,
the only disadvantage in my opinion is in the cost and time of installation, why? for a job well done it takes about 4 hours (always on scania vehicles)
and also are limited as adjustments to a remapping

munro
17-02-2013, 21:42
? true that these modules ruin the inettori and the pump, why? run the machine with pressure is too high?
I time ago I had one of the dipa sport dismantled, why? I have said so, right?
the assembly of these modules that raise only one parameter(the press rail) in the ecu with the method of the deception are the result of a concept of cause-and-effect used when early on the first engines with Common Rail do not yet know well how to act on the various parameters of the engine management in object.....
personalmentre I find a wrong way to act in order to increase the performance, because v? to modify a very important parameter of the engine of that? the shape and speed? of the spray in the combustion chamber by sending a harlots all the research and development work that the proggettisti have tried to get with long sessions of theoretical and practical tests to get a training date of this spray in conjunction to be able to get a date in the combustion....in addition to working a pump cr and related injectors over the limit established by the manufacturer non ? never a good thing in the first place for reliability? of the same....
my advice ? do not install these gizmos seen now the chance? to intervene in the ecu with congnizione cause of performance and reliability? clearly superior to these cans with a p? silicon...

rebirthafterrevenge
18-04-2013, 11:04
The problea ? that you can? intervene on a few tractors ! our programmers are still a few ecu!

rebirthafterrevenge
18-04-2013, 18:22
has anyone ever created an add-on module on the accelerator pedal for the tractors?