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isfedale82
09-01-2013, 11:08
Are in possession of an alfa 146 jtd on diagnosis me error like the injectors, in fact, every once in a while when I put in motion one or two crashes by mumbling the engine....
looking on ebay I found a washing machine ultrasonic 2.6 litre+ heating frequency 42 khz temp 60?c, 70 watts+100watt with the possibility? take the additive for carburetors...
some of you have had experience on these washing machines or this ? only a toy, what features must have a minimum of

thekid
09-01-2013, 11:44
Hello you have already tried to use commercial cleaners as sintoflon etc to try to clean the injectors that maybe the block and due to the accumulated dirt???

nuovaecu
09-01-2013, 12:09
I don't know I suggest you contact the seller and see what is the warranty gives you

admin
09-01-2013, 12:25
Are in possession of an alfa 146 jtd on diagnosis me error like the injectors, in fact, every once in a while when I put in motion one or two crashes by mumbling the engine....
looking on ebay I found a washing machine ultrasonic 2.6 litre+ heating frequency 42 khz temp 60?c, 70 watts+100watt with the possibility? take the additive for carburetors...
some of you have had experience on these washing machines or this ? only a toy, what features must have a minimum of

This that you say is for the petrol injectors,for those
diesel part try some additive that is around
you must put it to the dealer to check it and possibly ritararli,then
in the care of a pompista
bravo the equipment for this kind of work costs as much

munro
09-01-2013, 12:32
@ admin...the washing machine ultrasonic ? only effective listing of resources the petrol injectors and only on the traditional ones,those of the new engines, direct injection is nothing,so you don't have anything on the injectors CR..the problem is, these do not ? since dirt, but a lot of times to wear the pins inside of the nozzles tend to gripparsi...the only way to work around and a pompista who knows his...

rego88
09-01-2013, 13:58
@ admin...the washing machine ultrasonic ? only effective listing of resources the petrol injectors and only on the traditional ones,those of the new engines, direct injection is nothing,so you don't have anything on the injectors CR..the problem is, these do not ? since dirt, but a lot of times to wear the pins inside of the nozzles tend to gripparsi...the only way to work around and a pompista who knows his...

quoto munro.... the injectors CR, as you say, you nail why? the pins inside tread wears down, they try to gripparsi.... you are unlikely to have problems with the holes, and as others say, you do, you'll do nothing of a washing machine.... we want the tour, and 99% of the tips and pins new!!

isfedale82
09-01-2013, 13:58
thanks and then for the injectors, such as those in the mercedes 200E would be fine and for a tractor of the 94

I tried to put 4 a 147 jtd 2001 and nn puts even in motion, I inserted autocom nn I by chance? of them

too much money in this car, you feel well as a noise from the 1500 and 2000 if you break a injector disappears

legendaryslave
09-01-2013, 17:50
goes to a or burglary with 100 cards you carry them all away, and four

rego88
09-01-2013, 20:41
Has reason legendaryslave!! Go to burglary, and you take away 4!!

blackwolf76
09-01-2013, 22:21
and maybe he does not tell the whole worse than his.... :p:D

legendaryslave
09-01-2013, 22:32
or you can come by my pompista of trust with 800 cards makes you a complete revision replaces all of the nozzles puts the rods new, and if necessary change the body more solenoid valve, of course, intostati to 1800 bar on the test bench, or if you go from a burglary and logical that the pull down from a car accident-free

blackwolf76
09-01-2013, 22:45
in my part you spend half? to rebuild the injectors...

sno74
10-01-2013, 00:12
but I think that no gifts nothing to no one depends on the work that we do around my parts are about 600 euros clearly pi? vat and it's back to what he said legendary, then each of the money does what they want.........

tezzero
10-01-2013, 01:08
Clarification: the ultrasound bath that serious..with a solvent-good chemical. it cleans the injectors, gasoline and diesel for the latter, you must remove the nozzles and put them in the wash and if they are just dirty return new..if they are seized to throw them away...The cost of the audit of the injector c-rail depends on what you go to replace!!!

isfedale82
10-01-2013, 14:23
How ever does not recognize those of the 147 jtd 8 valve should I encode them? with autocom I can't find the option

with her instead of me these errors:

P0204 - injector Circuit, malfunction - Cylinder 4
P0203 - injector Circuit, malfunction - Cylinder 3
P0201 - injector Circuit, malfunction - Cylinder 1
P0202 - injector Circuit, malfunction - Cylinder 2

this car I changed the engine, flywheel, clutch and other crap... open this engine why? the mechanic thought the valves beat etc...
600 euro nn if you miss the car

sno74
10-01-2013, 19:13
sorry, but have you checked the abbreviation bosch injectors do not go to the car model, but the codes and then if you put them equal we are sure if you mount an other code, perhaps you find other problems........

isfedale82
10-01-2013, 23:51
I tried them because? I have them from another machine, and why? on the web c'? someone who has put them, tomorrow I check all the codes

tezzero
11-01-2013, 01:04
Make sure to check the codes... some are compatible part...or they can go..others don't work out right

sno74
11-01-2013, 09:19
post the codes cos? you do the comparison prog bosch

isfedale82
11-01-2013, 16:00
post the codes cos? you do the comparison prog bosch

Hello the codes that are mounted on the car are 0445110002

while the ones I have tried 0445110068

sno74
11-01-2013, 19:25
with code 0445110002 does not give me any comparison? I can say about that engine mount them on fiat or lancia do one thing write me your type of engine and I see what I can do.........

munro
11-01-2013, 20:26
from the data in my possession the 002 put out 82-92mm2 fuel max....the 068 100-115mm3 of diesel...
the fact that? that is bad, perhaps, and to be found on the displacement cylinders......
and I think that the maps energizing time of the car that fit these two different types of injectors are profoundly different...

tezzero
11-01-2013, 22:13
Mount the 119 instead of the 002 I guarantee you that seems to be mapped..? I think you have other issues..

isfedale82
12-01-2013, 00:26
Atri problems? cos? control

isfedale82
12-01-2013, 00:28
from the data in my possession the 002 put out 82-92mm2 fuel max....the 068 100-115mm3 of diesel...
the fact that? that is bad, perhaps, and to be found on the displacement cylinders......
and I think that the maps energizing time of the car that fit these two different types of injectors are profoundly different...

the elettroattatori you mean the coils

isfedale82
12-01-2013, 00:50
with code 0445110002 does not give me any comparison? I can say about that engine mount them on fiat or lancia do one thing write me your type of engine and I see what I can do.........

mounts as the engine AR32302

sno74
12-01-2013, 01:08
here is the list of cars that fit your injectors to see if it is useful for your research......

tezzero
12-01-2013, 21:01
To make the test of the 9...you have a diagnosis of the comparison quantity? diesel fuel injectors?? if you have it.. the range of correction of the control unit must be from -2 to + 2, otherwise they are defective...

guidotacco
13-01-2013, 09:17
quoto munro.... the injectors CR, as you say, you nail why? the pins inside tread wears down, they try to gripparsi.... you are unlikely to have problems with the holes, and as others say, you do, you'll do nothing of a washing machine.... we want the tour, and 99% of the tips and pins new!!
Quoto!Clean them does nothing,it takes the tour

sno74
13-01-2013, 09:47
now the list of cars that mount them c'? the price of the review the know I just have to decide what to do.......

isfedale82
13-01-2013, 18:51
Mount the 119 instead of the 002 I guarantee you that seems to be mapped..? I think you have other issues..


To make the test of the 9...you have a diagnosis of the comparison quantity? diesel fuel injectors?? if you have it.. the range of correction of the control unit must be from -2 to + 2, otherwise they are defective...

119 are mounted on the 147? spray the same amount? of 068? not ? then finding them nn sets in motion manco with these?


now the list of cars that mount them c'? the price of the review the know I just have to decide what to do.......

I think I will recover them in a few cars...I see a p?....and then after that, I remove one to see it inside

sno74
13-01-2013, 19:02
But, I would avoid disassemble try them on the machine you first and you take off just doubt......

isfedale82
13-01-2013, 19:25
But, I would avoid disassemble try them on the machine you first and you take off just doubt......

once I find them and they work, I remove these for curiosity

isfedale82
13-01-2013, 19:26
these that I have now

igor
13-02-2013, 23:20
hi all, as far as the machine to the ultra sound, I can tell you from experience that does not do miracles, if the nozzles are worn or the spring inside are snervate or the ball of the closing under the coils are damaged (only commonrail) the only solution ? a pompista.
the ultrasonic serve only to clean the internal components to the injectors, and the bodies,? particularly useful for removing traces of sediment, oil and coal on the lower part of the bodies and I can assure you that ? almost impossible the formation of coal to the inside of the holes of the nozzles of the injectors normally closed (cio? when at rest the needle closes the nozzle, as in 99% of cases as the injectors traditional, pde and commonrail), unless these are not damaged, and then remain open but in this case it returns from the pompista

Exside81
14-02-2013, 16:04
I think your 146 is a 80cv If so, at 119 are fine and the car is even better!

marcusmagic
14-02-2013, 16:32
if you want I can give you a tool for test bench injettori,common rail, but you should build a nice system with a pump and everything you need...;) anyway, if you need to repair your on the go pompista and towels for the system he here in my town they take more than I have about 150 euro to fix them..

giarras
14-02-2013, 19:59
if you want I can give you a tool for test bench injettori,common rail, but you should build a nice system with a pump and everything you need...;) anyway, if you need to repair your on the go pompista and towels for the system he here in my town they take more than I have about 150 euro to fix them..

I confirm, in palermo, the expenditure ? that nn + 150 euro.

marcusmagic
15-02-2013, 10:45
us spending and 150 euro + less..let us know from you how much it costs to make this work. maybe we see that differeza ec'

isfedale82
16-03-2013, 19:58
if you want I can give you a tool for test bench injettori,common rail, but you should build a nice system with a pump and everything you need...;) anyway, if you need to repair your on the go pompista and towels for the system he here in my town they take more than I have about 150 euro to fix them..


leandro89
17-03-2013, 13:33
from my experience working additives in the diesel them I just go to remove dirt deposits ? all true, but do you really think that leaving the nozzle??? I think not, and if a time "sciote" go into the return of the diesel? let's dirty the tank more? as is... revisioniate or as said in the previous messages recuperateli to apart carriages.

marcusmagic
18-03-2013, 17:38


then you are interested in this tool for the injectors?? if you are interested I'll explain everything!! :)

marcusmagic
19-03-2013, 11:12

isfedale82
13-04-2013, 22:59
I changed the injectors from a car running, but on my nn work I put back the old ones and does not interfere with the pi? in motion
diagnosis nn appears to be no error that can? to be successful

isfedale82
15-04-2013, 02:01


where would the video....!?

marcusmagic
15-04-2013, 09:39

isfedale82
15-04-2013, 17:32


I had already seen? video of how to take them apart, beautiful plant I build for me... the machine seems simple enough

for? chiss

marcusmagic
15-04-2013, 18:12
it is very simple..and the magcheck you've seen how to use it?

isfedale82
15-04-2013, 21:02
it is very simple..and the magcheck you've seen how to use it?

it was seeing, to be honest I don't understand him very well.... you know how much you have to tighten the electric actuator and position

marcusmagic
16-04-2013, 10:35
what do you mean, for electrical actuator and position? you speak of the pressure regulator rail?

isfedale82
16-04-2013, 11:30
what do you mean, for electrical actuator and position? you speak of the pressure regulator rail?


the piezoelectric that it is possible to open the injector, I don't know how it's called exactly

marcusmagic
16-04-2013, 12:27
then you speak of the piezo injector; for all the links there are the wiring and the plugs....

isfedale82
16-04-2013, 12:59
then you speak of the piezo injector; for all the links there are the wiring and the plugs....

in the video it shows how to disassemble the injectors disel cr, c'? the part where it is connected electrically to the control unit that is tightened with a torque wrench, you know what is set...and that direction must have the plug ( if they are rotated slightly different changes something?
I don't know if I have explained

isfedale82
16-04-2013, 13:00
displacement cylinders

marcusmagic
16-04-2013, 16:48
on the mechanical side I don't know,this must know the pompista how to tighten them.I can explain to you how it works in the form magcheck

isfedale82
16-04-2013, 17:39
on the mechanical side I don't know,this must know the pompista how to tighten them.I can explain to you how it works in the form magcheck

ok :)
it would have been nice

tezzero
16-04-2013, 22:34

isfedale82
17-04-2013, 09:33
I have a p? lost on the discussion..your injectors are controlled by an electromagnet and not from the piezo..they are a pompista explain to me exactly what is happening in your car???thanks

Hello, I had the injectors (of 146) in the diagnosis marked error, one of these felt pat and one was smoking, they gave me the other injectors of the 147 119 working (the machine ? accident-free in the rear); the port from the mechanical xk nn I have the puller, put the injectors 119 and the machine nn sets in motion.....to him I leave it qnd I nn put in motion even with mine, told me that she tried to change the actuator magnet thinking it was the code of the injectors, etc...
I leave them for a few days and nothing....bring it home to tow, I commend her and after several attempts I see that nn has a tight these actuators, the clasp without putting force
the machine for? pat (much less) and smokes worse than before....I take off the one that smokes (pat a p? under stress and I put 119 car nn smokes the most? for? two for me to spray a little xk if them out and them put the difference nn ? much like the other two.....if I put two 119 and two old nn sets in motion and even 4 119....

I wanted to understand how much you have to tighten them, and that direction must have, seem to me to be slightly more? rotated especially two...or this nn affects

3697

tezzero
17-04-2013, 23:08
Hello, I had the injectors (of 146) in the diagnosis marked error, one of these felt pat and one was smoking, they gave me the other injectors of the 147 119 working (the machine ? accident-free in the rear); the port from the mechanical xk nn I have the puller, put the injectors 119 and the machine nn sets in motion.....to him I leave it qnd I nn put in motion even with mine, told me that she tried to change the actuator magnet thinking it was the code of the injectors, etc...
I leave them for a few days and nothing....bring it home to tow, I commend her and after several attempts I see that nn has a tight these actuators, the clasp without putting force
the machine for? pat (much less) and smokes worse than before....I take off the one that smokes (pat a p? under stress and I put 119 car nn smokes the most? for? two for me to spray a little xk if them out and them put the difference nn ? much like the other two.....if I put two 119 and two old nn sets in motion and even 4 119....

I wanted to understand how much you have to tighten them, and that direction must have, seem to me to be slightly more? rotated especially two...or this nn affects

3697
The rotation of the magnet does not affect, and even how much they make...unless they break...the problem ? surely in the fact that by removing the 119 with the extractor someone ? ruined it even happens to me... if you want them to you can I fix..let me know..if the admin are consenting..

isfedale82
18-04-2013, 21:06
The rotation of the magnet does not affect, and even how much they make...unless they break...the problem ? surely in the fact that by removing the 119 with the extractor someone ? ruined it even happens to me... if you want them to you can I fix..let me know..if the admin are consenting..

Hello 10 minutes ago I tried again to put the 119 (after having removed the actuator and put back in place of the injector tapping out, the engine runs well and nn pat,doesn't smell
definitely two spray of pi? now.....tomorrow if I can I try another one ? been pounded to remove it....

then if you don't work these two we agree if the admin wants

thanks :)

tezzero
19-04-2013, 22:57
Ok..