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Hi to all guys!
I'm a new guy, who is trying it for the first time in the world of the mappings. Are the province of Catania, and I have seen that many users, and the directors are of the "area".
That said, let's get down to it.
I have a Suzuki Swift 1.3 DDiS engine mjet 75hp. From what I understand, the difference compared to the 69 is in electronics, and that to be able to read and write my ecu (which from what I understand ? a EDC16, but I do not put the hand on fire), I would need to MPPS, right?
I anticipate that it will have to?, with your help, starting from 0. I installed the ECM and looked at some of the map ORI, but only in passing without trying to understand great things.
That said, I ask you.
What do I need to buy really? C'? someone that has already? worked on a car like mine?
Thanks in advance, Guys!
carlo abarth
08-01-2013, 18:25
but it does not fit marelli????
I don't know frankly, a "mapper of the area," she told me so?, but the mapper told me that I got up the prex turbine from the map, and then I let it go.
Ok, so what do I need to start guys? I trust you :D
I'm all ears and eyes
First of all, you need a good tool to read the
the map contained in the control unit,this you can find it
on our on-line shop,after that you have read, you have to change it with a soft fit
the ecm type that you already have,post it here and we'll give you a hand
to make you understand where mistakes are simple, isn't it? of course you need to be up to you to make it, we can give you a few tips.
But the tool to use? MPPS?
msport (exil77grande)
08-01-2013, 19:13
But the tool to use? MPPS?
at least a mpps for your car.
And with the same, I can do a SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9 TDI 90 HP?
Game as well with my father in case...whoever
That said, Msport, I saw that you are of catania, which area?
msport (exil77grande)
08-01-2013, 19:24
And with the same, I can do a SKODA OCTAVIA 1.9 TDI 90 HP?
Game as well with my father in case...whoever
That said, Msport, I saw that you are of catania, which area?
I work near etnapolice,for the rest, often in other workshops and the province of catania for the works directed.
Ok thanks for the info!
However, looking in the drivers of ECM, I have not found those relating to the SWIFT 75hp..***** and I should do so at this point?
I think you could use those for the fiat or opel 1,3 multijet.....
to download you must have the permissions that are reached after a certain number of posts.....if you participate on the forum you'll see that in a short time you reach the quota for download...
Ahhh ok ok :D As I imagined then ;)
Thanks.
Guys, I tried to make a map, but I have no idea what has combined. Or rather, I tried to follow a policy, but I do not know if ? the right. For? I can not upload it on the forum, it tells me the FILE is NOT VALID.
Ah, the map in question ? a GP 90 hp...I found a file on the network...
FidodidoTuning
08-01-2013, 22:13
you have to zipparlo
uhhhhhhhhhh, ok thanks! Try now :D
Ops, I thought we could edit the message, however I can't find the key: (.
Thanks to all in advance!
Ops, I thought we could edit the message, however I can't find the key: (.
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Thanks to all in advance!
when you post a mod file x board, you have to post the file ori, you have to put the two files in a folder and zip.
legendaryslave
08-01-2013, 22:46
Danny I don't want to demolish your enthusiasm, but according to me if you need to make a map with a single to your car without having a mechanical basis in the first place and then you have to invest for programmers and anything else with the riskio that if something happens you have to call the tow truck and bring it to the concessonaria, I strongly recommend the support of a professional in the field, you spend much less and you have a product that is guaranteed why? people like me who like to giacare with the clones has always been an instrument of the official behind the para your ass.
My not ? absolutely not a criticism, but I think closer to the sector you have to sit at least 30 cars per day, and start investing with three zeros, I'm at the point in the care of someone.
no offense, I just wanted to advise you the best way according to my point of view
I'm sorry in advance if I expressed myself in this way
I know,but I really want to learn, and I'm turning to you.
Not caricher? never a map first if not the avr? made to see some of you. Knowledge in mechanical ? exaggerated, but a minimal c'?. I understand your advice, but I prefer to spend 130€ of the mpps, and learn to understand something, that rely on someone. Surely star? to lose a lot of time, initially the avr? of the big problems, but I want to at least try it :)
I made a boiata, not tenetala into account!
I believe that the pump of the rail I spit in the face xD
virus1976
08-01-2013, 23:15
Hello Danny, in the title of the discussion about a 75hp,while you posted a file of a 90cv. not you ought to take a file from 75hp?
Yes, but I could not find it... :( it Was only for provarea use the program...done cos? in 10 minutes.
virus1976
08-01-2013, 23:25
Ok, try to look for the best in network or ask the Admin if you send one so we have a basis on which to study.
Ok, now I provide.
The other thing.
Then, going to the simple things, I will change the numbers with the various increments, and here we are. For?; torque limiters, why? are three? Their real function what?? For? siam them, this ? the file of a 90, I don't know how ? 75. I see in the meantime if I find something.
legendaryslave
08-01-2013, 23:33
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?265-Swift
virus1976
08-01-2013, 23:36
At that that I know the file structure of the 75hp and 90hp are similar. If you use ecm does not give too much weight to the names from the maps often do not indicate the real meaning.
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?265-Swift
Unfortunately I still can not download the attachments on the forum...
Virus, thanks for the advice. Then, what do you mean?
virus1976
08-01-2013, 23:53
Even I like you I can download the file from the forum. the file that you see in the forum I don't think go well seeing that this is a version from 69cv
virus1976
09-01-2013, 00:07
Here is an example from exploit
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=2297&d=1357686208
suzuki swift 1300 75hp DDIS 3376y251 - 01246o204l
virus1976
09-01-2013, 00:17
what ecm indicates "torque limiter(2)" should be maps pedal
"injection, split"= time of injection
"torque limiter #3" = torque limiter
"torque limiter #2" = should be a torque limiter bound to the temperature of the water
"injection, split (map1) and (map2) = I don't know what it is
the word for the experts to complete and correct my nonsense
virus, thanks a lot but I have the restriction in that topic that I've linked to. . . . especially if the file was the same as mine, I would have already? be able to work right on my map. but this depends on my ecu
virus1976
09-01-2013, 00:26
there is nothing left to wait for the admin, if I make an exception, or you will deliver on your box.
I then believe that one of the three limiters is in accordance with the temperature of oil or water. explain in a better way. I currently have a digital module, and each change of temperature, a bit like with the carbs, I have to play. when it's hot I have to lower the set-up, while the cold red dare more?. The temperature of the water is always smooth, that, therefore, it may vary ? that of diesel fuel. or in relation to the outside temperature, but I don't think the second hypothesis.
virus1976
09-01-2013, 00:42
I don't know how it works in your module,but I doubt that it functions according to the temperatures of the engine. For what I understand is that some of the maps regulate the torque depending on the operating temperature, sometimes the machine goes into boiling these maps intervene to protect the engine by cutting the power.
the form ? always connected on the flute. ago select increase Power, when to intervene, when to disengage, and with that curve you must disarm. That said, surely the unit size on the basis of the determining values. in the summer it allows me to give less boost (which should correspond to the control unit ori to a value that is too low in the flute).
read from post 14 on...https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.the php?1787-Opinion-on the map-Lancia-Ypsilon-1-3-mjet-70cv/page2
virus1976
09-01-2013, 00:58
excellent post munro, thanks for the intervention, but how do I interpret the values expressed in the maps? Can you give me kindly explanations on the functioning of the maps lambda? If I understood well by the maps lambda regulate the relationship stechiomentrico then lowering the values I reduce the ratio stechio exact ?
for you virus....if you have a question for those that are my skills? not hesitate? to answer you....
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/715/lambdamapfactor13mjt.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/lambdamapfactor13mjt.png/)
http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/96/lambda13mjt.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/96/lambda13mjt.png/)
virus1976
09-01-2013, 01:36
hello munro, no ? in my pi? far going to test your abilities? and far be it from me to do it, I am a neophyte and I read in continuation of map axes etc but how or better why moddarle in a certain way, often to me is strange. Mine was just a question that's all.
I do not really understand the meaning of your last post....in the previous post you asked for clarification on how to interpertrare maps lambda...I have posted a picture attached to the values that you find in the axes and the conversion factors to gain a better understanding of the whole....a picture is worth more than a thousand words...I also said chese you have a question for those that are my skills? I'll help you....what do you want more? from the life??? don't let problems that are not there.....ask and you will be? given...
virus1976
09-01-2013, 01:57
I misunderstood your words "if you have a question for those that are my skills? not hesitate? to answer you...." I'm sorry thank you for the pictures of the studier?
Munro thank you very much! As I imagined, something there was also the Temperature of diesel fuel. That said, the ECM how do I find these maps? I find only Injection choked, and the three limiters. (Always relative to the 90 hp,?, I don't have other files with which to play)
many maps are out of the driver for which you have to search in 2d.......
begins to moddare the request through DW and its torque limiters as posted in the pictures...
then steps you have limiters in function of the temperature and the map lambda for high iq.......
after that you can give a bit of press rail, and, finally, even a small increase of tinj as "icing on the cake"....
with this mod if it is done with the policy, I think that a 25-30cv take them secure....
virus1976
09-01-2013, 12:48
but the prex turbo should leave it gold? I looked at those ecm called "boost" and I noticed that maximum values always have the same value let me explain from 900 rpm to 4500, the value to 100% ? 192, it seems to me a bit strange then that it is
according to magi1984 that value v? converted with the factor 14....then 192*14=2688 which you have to subtract 1000 millibars of atmospheric pressure are therefore in 1688 millibars, or 1,68 bar of turbo pressure actual...this for? should be the limiter, turbo pressure, beyond which the ecu "cut" the cio? goes into protection...then I believe that on the turbo you may not act through map because this car uses a turbo with fixed geometry....
msport (exil77grande)
09-01-2013, 14:16
one map 25-30cv them slopes on the 1.3 mjet.
That said, how do I recognize in 2d what are the various curves? The TinJ cos'??
The 25 horses from the map, not to get there, and I confirm the address of the turbo pressure. On 68/75 ? can increase the pressure of only mechanically, by acting either directly on the WG or by mounting a rubinettino, a p? the old-fashioned way, so to say.
With regard to the limit of the recovery, it makes sense to move the limiter if you don't ? changed the turbine, the KP35 series, gi? 1.4 ?"pull"...
the tinj ? the injection time....
Perfect, thanks! And to understand what corrisondono the curves in 2d?
That said, it would then be what to do with the closing of the egr, since for now I only have the plug pulled it off.
The other thing, with what ? better to start? ECM Titanium...?
Reading continuous a "study"...
The DW ? the map of pedal, therefore, that determines the supply of diesel fuel in relation to the pressure on the accelerator.
The other thing. The maximum values of which I can raise the injections parzializzate what are they? Then, the other thing. If you increase the injections parzializzate of the XX-you need to increase as the torque limiter, or do I need to enter different values? This? go hand in hand?
Thanks for your expertise, and pasienza this.
Danny..how many questions...will try? to answer you....then..in the map tinj you have it in the axes in the reference 2d or even 3d in the X-axis the press rail..conversion factor 2... in the Y-axis you have the iq conversion factor 0,002941...in the Z-axis or a descriptor that dir you want to have the time of opening seconds in the us cio? microseconds...conversion factor 1...
for the egr if you expect to achieve with the share post you can easily download the guide for the exclusion on the forum ? great...
and as sw to start you can use both ecm2001 that the titanium.....
to map the pedal're there...and also for torque limiters..you grabbed as moddarli...
always remember the request and the limitations must be moddati pace of that? DW and TL must be moddati mode? the same....
the Z-axis ? the opening time of the injectors in microseconds...
and the IQ ? the injection quantity...the quantity? fuel injected...
Perfect, everything slowly begins to take shape, even though they are still at 0. But I like to, as they say; I intrippa... :D
That said, as a result, you've answered everything, and now I have no doubt. I just have to let go I'm ecm that I did not install but it only opens from the file.rar grrrr
Thanks!
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So guys,tonight I found a p? of time, in the middle of the slopes, accidents to be analyzed, and errors...and I did the test of the map in 2d, using in the meantime, those "driver". The map ? always a mjet90 cv a Great Point.
That said, I have changed before the injections parzializzate, of which I did not have the stamp for?. While I was in the torque limiters, and precisely in the first that the program I divide in 1/2 and 2/2, mi ? had a doubt. Why? the curves are both positive and negative? That is, the values range, for example from 3000 to -3000. When I go to edit them, how should I change them? If I select a whole range of addresses, as I have done, and d? a +20 hypothetical ? in our "advantage" when the value ? positive, but when ? negative?
Here, let's say that I would like to understand what makes us the curve below 0,what "indicates" and if you have to change it with + in the positive area and the negative zone....
Thanks as always.
virus1976
11-01-2013, 10:41
I think that needs to be amended only with the parts in the positive to the negative, not the toccherei maximum linearizzerei by removing some of the tooth
Exact Virus, in fact, I had this doubt, xk? before that, I selected all, and then I asked myself; What am I doing?
It would be interesting to? understand what corresponds with the negative value.
virus1976
11-01-2013, 11:46
maybe they will have a sense in the deceleration phase, the experts say
Mmm, torque limit during deceleration? Mmmm
Wait.....!
Guys, anyone that can clarify this doubt? :(
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?1475-Gp-1-3-90cv-Perplessita-su-alcune-modifiche
Thanks a lot Munro!
Consequently, the one that I've posted, and that ECM 2001 I called limiter torque ? really? a DW, that is, a map with the pedal?
Thanks!
Well, then, I am back again to all.
Unfortunately these days I ? was quite complicated to be able to study the maps, and can be a lot of this on the forum, because of exams, projects, and many of the casinos faculty?...Today for? the avr? a couple of months of "peace", cos? to be able to devote to this new world.
I hope this week to take the mpps, being able to have a file ori of my Swift, and start. As I think, I hope that you will be ready to solve my terrible doubts, as that will be coming, and to clarify everything....
It is a pleasure to be part of this great "family" :)
Now, I open the ecm and I try to play some files....If I can, maybe I'll post it and see what I say... :D
Ok, after a thousand adventures, tollgo the exam, and the day after I break my finger....
Now it seems that we are in it. I have already? purchased the mppsv12, here from the site, and between tomorrow and Thursday? the andr? collect from Daniel. We see a p? what leaves.
In the meantime, I have a question.
Ok, moddare injection, and various limiters, with increases similar, then if the increase of X value, the injection choked, you will have to? raise X to the limiter, and then in a "similar". This, for what concerns the maps from the driver. Maaa, removed those drivers, c'? much more to study...And you talk a lot, to Map the Pedal, which should regulate the flow of diesel fuel, in relationship to the load on the accelerator, right? This, where is it located? Scrolling in 2d, how do I know that ? she? And the map with the fumes, then it must be adequate to map the pedal?
Thanks in advance, we hope to be able to make something good!
3143PB57_BAF7.ori code ecu/map
Guys, I made a change to this file is found, only the one that the ECM calls for PEI CHOKED.
Son party with increments not high at low loads and, especially, in low rpm, with the idea that so? I'd limit any fumosit? excessive, right?
At high speeds, I have tried to give something more?, why? experience (my) past the 4000 rpm spring a lot of the shooting...
Aspect of the news!
Well, then!
Today I picked up with my friend and was Daniel, the mpps.
Got home, started l afirst reading, doesn't it ? worked fine, on the second attempt ? output a read complete, dimensinoe 448k (should not be more? great?)
I'm attaching the file read ;
There are no drivers on ECM2001, but the curves are all different from those we have seen up to now on some 90hp...Because
I forgot, here is the ecuID
Opel Vin Number : 00000000000000000
Marelli Hawdware Number : MAG 01246O204L
Marelli Software Number : 3376Y251
Opel Hardware Number : 33920-72KQ1
Programming Date 16/06/2008
Address 013900, ? the injection choked? Not ? equal to that of the 90 hp, but ? the only thing "similar" there I found....
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?265-Swift
Guys here is the file from 2mb. Then, I started from the rail pressure, which should be the address 08F4CF. I have touched only this just to see how it does. %increments ? too much, too little? Another thing; a Little more? next c'? another similar map, which differs soprartutto for the initial part, ? the limiter relative to the pressure in the rail?
Guys, little question!
The checksum of the file on the network ? of course, different from mine. Mpps has a standard driver for the swift, no distinction between 69 and 75...The fixes anyway?
msport (exil77grande)
31-03-2013, 20:26
if you connect the instrument to the usb and select the make and model and protocol, there is written whether or not to calculate the ck automatically.
Yes, the doubt ? why? by a single protocol for both 69 to 75. It's the same? I would not like to face a mess..
msport (exil77grande)
31-03-2013, 20:39
don't get complex if there is written it does both, and if it is the same protocol that is the same csa for the two of them otherwise, there were two different.
Guys, request service. The maps lambda, go moddate in -, or not there, I understood nothing? I have compared the files of the 90's with the 75, and 90 ? pi? cheap in what would be the low rpm/load accelerator...Or am I wrong? As I have to "interpret" such a map?
I enclose a photo...
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Thanks!
sportknight
01-04-2013, 02:46
sorry,why? you're frobbing?'
change the limiters,the two maps pedal more? the one after that as a limiter,the time the rail and just..... you do not need is...
Thanks! The map pedal how do I change it?? Ah, another thing. Increase by how much?
Not c'? a fixed rule, it always depends on how you want to make the throttle response and from what you get in terms of performance and consumption.
For now, I need a map thrust, Sunday around the track.... Without considerareconsumi, but without too much smoke, I don't want to cook the turbine....
Guys, small problem. This morning I wanted to write to the file taken from the database of the forum, which differs obviously only for the Checksum. The file ? modified, and cut into 1 mb, but at the moment you select it to write, tells me that ? encrypted. Why?? Use MPPS v12
hello danny, but you've just read from serial port with the mpps? because according to me not to write it
In serial law 448 kb, but why? should not write it, if the 75 and 90's? do they do that? :s
In serial law 448 kb, but why? should not write it, if the 75 and 90's? do they do that? :s
you do it with mpps always from the serial? and then if you say that you mpps reads a file from 448 to you because you want to write it by 1 mega for what you said encrypted file
sportknight
02-04-2013, 11:31
the 70 is read and write and then write your...
Mah, 75 the file has 2 mb, which is read via BDM and writes 1 mb cut through MPPS? Or I have missed something?
sportknight
02-04-2013, 11:50
you're right,but I remembered that I had a 69cv,now I read that you have a 75,I'm not understanding pi? nothing
you need to work on that bdm cut :)
this problem of encryption I don't know what depends sincerely
yeah, I worked on the BDM cut. The file BDM ? by 2mb, and then I cut down to 1mb...and then changed...
I am not to understand pi? nothing :S
I know the 75 hp mpps not writing it for sure I can tell you the law, and writes the cock v2 that I have made 1 with that but before that I made a bdm does not yet have the v2 but I have not experienced it mpps and another having already read that none of these) wrote and the same thing is also true for the meriva 75hp
No, mppsv12 writes the file in the marelli, but doesn't read them. To write it, you have to cut it to 1mb, taking the entire 2mb bed bdm or with other instrumentation.
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I explained what has this written in the file ori of my ecu, bed with MPPSv12?
I can still see the attachments..***** o, if I understand what you're talking about, it should be used the one written to fill a portion of the flash.
In regard to the writing that I can not do that instead?
I don't remember if the protocol writing relating to the Swift ? for 6JF or 6F3 why? the V12 I have used it very little, and on the V5 there was only 6JF.
The v12 ? for the 75...I select the protocols of the opel? ? I try? 0er Swift n? from only one...
You have gi? written other cars with this MPPSV12?
S?, a 69 hp always Swift. Written in 1 minute, and read in 39
Nothing, I tried with the driver of the opel, and does not write it anyway. With all of the other does not, etc id. I also tried to upload the file ori simply cut off, but always the message of the encrypted file to me, without having to start writing.
I dunno, I'm not to understand pi? nothing...
Mafani, here many have written the 75 and 90 cutting the file to 1mb.
but the great point is not this
But the electronics do not ? always the same? :s
There can be substantial differences between cars that can fit in the same engine but different brands
Boh, mah, I'm doing it with conviction. Here not ? who says that not ? able to write it, it tells me that file ? encrypted. Ok, I am new, but ? the wording of when a tool is not ? able to write?
I have read all the post, and others, but I always do more? confusion and I see you are not the only one.
With the help of all, and with the consent of the directors, can we do a post-guide where we put it in black and white as you read and write these blessed 1.3 multijet?
Unfortunately I don't have great experience, otherwise we would have already? started
Sure, the old 69 the write and read with galletto 1260, and also with mppsv12.
Being blessed mjd6o2 that is me, I have no idea how the heck functions.
Mppsv12, I read 448kb, without maps, practically. Mpps should write with a file full bed via BDM and cut into 1 mb...
ECU ID via mpps;
Opel Vin Number : 00000000000000000
Marelli Hawdware Number : MAG 01246O204L
Marelli Software Number : 3376Y251
Opel Hardware Number : 33920-72KQ1
Programming Date 16/06/2008
There? that is the law on the ecu.
NEVERTHELESS, 6O2.Y5
7BWS0-E6l
msport (exil77grande)
03-04-2013, 08:53
try to write this file ori and I do know.
Ok Daniel, I have read just now why? I have been busy doing other odd jobs, including a few minutes I'm going to do the test....
In the meantime, thanks!
msport (exil77grande)
03-04-2013, 14:25
Ok Daniel, I have read just now why? I have been busy doing other odd jobs, including a few minutes I'm going to do the test....
In the meantime, thanks!
then have you tried the my files?
YES, just tried Daniele....
Always the same thing...In the box where it appears I'M READING, etc., above the cechksum, says to me; the ENCRYPTED FILES.
Update....Here is the file ori bed with a galletto v2...
Now I need to understand more? in regard to maps and addresses...
This so far ? perhaps what I managed to find...but I'm not sure of the maps Rail...
1046DC EGR
104B86 torque Limiter
10AE6E Injection choked
10D6E8 Limiter
10E8F6 Limiter coppia1
10E91E Limiter coppia2
10E95C Advance injection
10F4C0 Rail Pressure
10F77F Rail pressure Limiter
11069A Pedale1
1107CA Pedale2
11091E Conversion pair
What do you know about us?? Mode? change? How to intervene?
No one who knows anything? :(
passion engines
05-08-2013, 00:32
Hello certainly, in so many know how to work , please ask at the forum for the file
I would like to learn...I don't like the jelly is ready........And do not seek it.
I want to begin to understand something...For example, application. If you do not touch the rail pressure, but I am going to vary the opening of the injector through what ecm called injection choked...The maximum peak of the rail remains the same, or tender? to get? The Avr? of small oscillations?
but the turbine ? variable geometry in this machine
The 1.3 Mjet 75hp ? equipped with KKK KP35 fixed geometry operated pneumatically.
tidus1985
18-08-2013, 13:54
I knew that we wanted the cock again, and that the 75, 90 and 95 hp does not read in hindsight, it seems to me that even the kess v2 the read
for what I know you can write but not read with mpps
then if I want to increase the pressure I have to act mechanically with a faucet, right?
With Mpps Swift 75 Nevertheless+ do not do it. Read, read 448, and to write, you can't do anything about it.
With the galletto v2 serial-read 2.5 and write 2.5...Read approximately 70 minutes, it seems to me, and writing in 15.
To raise the pressure we are off topic.
ok sorry and thanks for the info
passion engines
18-08-2013, 22:44
Hello to all on this car, you can do so many things it depends on how much you want to invest and what you want from the engine, a remap by good satisfaction
Passion, you have info about the address prex rail? I can't go more than 1460. By tapping the map rail, salt if lifted too, feel that they also beat the injectors, and in diagnosis to equal the load/rpm ? pi? high, but arrived at around 3500, stabilizes at about 1458, and does not go beyond.....
I have to say that as far as from 2000 to 3500 I managed benomale to get it going well enough, with a little smoke...there Remains the problem of the high...tips?
Prex turbine 1.5, downpipe, central direct and BMC....
But no one willing to give me a minimum of help?
Rail does not go beyond 1480bar, despite having raised the ladder, immediately after which brought back the same value.
Turbo, can you? go over 1.55 or later size the sensor?
dariuccio
24-08-2013, 17:10
I was on my multijet 70cv I can go up to 1.78 bar without recovery
Dariuccio, but how did you? What have you changed in the map?
msport (exil77grande)
25-08-2013, 10:28
Exact dariuccio enlighten us.
Anyone know tell me the areas of advances please?
msport (exil77grande)
31-08-2013, 10:04
Dariuccio expect your intervention.
I wait for someone to give me some clue, not a map xD
mariodarkblue
31-08-2013, 14:29
Hello danny...therefore, let us understand something about marelli...which I'm getting close too...so...what do you want to know?
I made a map to a 70cv...heavily processed...I lifted the rail and its limiters, but I get error in diagnosis prex rail high in the temporary...
And also after a beautiful accelerated if you remove your foot from the gas, the car remains accelerated...
Now, I have to say that I do not know the management map pedal of these ecu...
it would be to understand why? gi? in the map ori, the driver's wish or pedal you want to call it has values in the negative...we know that the dw ? expressed as nm of torque...xk? make it go negative?
Basically what is called map the pedal to me ? a torque limiter. The values in the negative, I've never understood, but increasing, from me, I increased on the positive side, while I have seen maps made by "preparatory" and had increases in negative data basically from work in the grid with the drivers I think. With regard to the rail, I'm working on my what ? a 75hp. The one that seems to be the 8-bit map that would limit the max value of the rail, I was raised, but more than 1460 no salt, and I don't understand why. There will be? something that escapes me, or maybe ? a single bit.
Another thing, I saw that the rpm limiter starts to cut from ori to 4500, and that's why? it is useless to give diesel if you are not going to change the limiter, which in my are 2, or maybe 3( the third one I'm trying to understand it).
The fact of the staying accelerated, I noticed it in a 69cv of a friend, in a light when I touched the torque limiters/dw-only at full load. Moddati otherwise, with increments of 5, 10, 15, 20 in relation to the position, ? disappeared. And on my own has allowed me to have an answer almost immediately, almost from the accelerator wire( starting from 2000 rpm and up)...
Regarding the turbo, I can not go over 1.55..or better editing, I can read 1.6 and then I cut. But raising too much, doesn't change anyway, so I know that it is the sensor that reads a maximum of that value, and in the map ? slightly in advance.
mariodarkblue
31-08-2013, 15:01
Then, in my file golds that you will find a few posts back, the limiter is to address 10AD54 . I did the test before to lower it, and then to turn it up...and, in fact, match. If you notice they are two similar, one that ends at 5100 and the other at 5200. I don't really understand the difference, unfortunately, I have to do the test to a lowering of both the first and see the behavior of the machine. But I noticed that by doing it practically square, the machine does not tend to decrease the yield for the past 4600 rpm, and get self-confident to the limiter touched and set 5250, also in the 4th.
About the map the pedal, I can't seem to explain why the values in the negative, I can not find the logic. Regarding the speech-axis, I have noticed that every "curve" corresponds to a percentage, and on that curve, c'? the couple expressed, but nevertheless, raising even in low rpm, under 2000 remains empty...
Regarding the rail, I don't remember the address, I know him on sight, and I have here the ECM...Immediately after the map rail, you will find a sort of ladder to go down, to set the maximum value that corresponds to that of the rail. Leaving ori, stops at 1400 round, flat, 1460, and goes no further.
mariodarkblue
31-08-2013, 20:12
then danny..we cos?...let's start from the pedal...and we look at one thing at a time...tant ? not trvo even the limiter that I've written...
I tried your ori..but I don't think that is right..you could attach?
Post 117, find the attachment ori I read with galletto.
With regard to addresses, dw, are; 11069A and 1107CA
mariodarkblue
31-08-2013, 23:13
ok...downloaded the file...uploading to ecm titanium x?...it does not find the drivers automatically..if you imposed, I like swift 3376_251 ? all wrong...
S? why? the file ? 2.5 mb and not two... If you people will certainly be a move of a numerical gate value constant.
mariodarkblue
01-09-2013, 12:54
S? why? the file ? 2.5 mb and not two... If you people will certainly be a move of a numerical gate value constant.
This I don't know, I don't even have the driver :D are from the phone, a few pages behind, you should find the addresses.
mariodarkblue
01-09-2013, 13:12
This I don't know, I don't even have the driver :D are from the phone, a few pages behind, you should find the addresses.
sorry, I read the Suzuki wagon with mag pro 4.2, I take off the egr, and modify other parameters, when I go to rewrite it tells me: the signal control unit is absent, please contact the manufacturer at the site, etc, etc., ? the first time that happens . has anyone similar experiences? thanks
hi guys,found this post of some time ago, and I wanted to revive them, I'm looking for the map for the kotor suzuki,egr off, and at least one horse in the most.read with galletto v48 clone,file 2 mega.the ones that I have that fiat grande punto and opel corsa,I'm not sure that they can go although I think they marell mj6.
this, and the ecu id with the cock
00000000000000000
33920-72KQ1MAG
01246O204L
3376Y251
072KQ
D13A
09 09 0020
MAG 01246O204L
instead mpps me such as:
-marel hardware number.mj8f3hw20p
I hope in your support?
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