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E92_mpower
07-01-2013, 21:59
Hello to all the boys this ? the first map that I'm in, someone is giving me a hand?
the ecu ? a edc16 bmw 535d
thanks to all of you.
msport (exil77grande)
07-01-2013, 22:29
excuse the map? you have only changed the turbo pressure, even when the machine is off and not the limiter as the increment can go,then you have changed the rail pressure and I do not like absolutely the method with a trivial amount and here also you have changed the limiter for the majority of the finds there is no other.
E92_mpower
07-01-2013, 22:40
you are in effect have been a p? light increases. the effect of the limiters I've not touched since? I didn't know what was going to do... so, advice??
hello e92 mpower board of study a bit on the forum you will see that you will find a lot of answers.
E92_mpower
07-01-2013, 22:57
hello e92 mpower board of study a bit on the forum you will see that you will find a lot of answers.
would you be cos? kind enough to direct me to some discussion already? this? cos? I'm going to studiarre something? Thanks a lot
E92_mpower
07-01-2013, 23:30
in ecm2001 I can't find the map "the times of injection" maybe it has a different name?
forget the names of the ecm....look at the maps that you have in the drivers in the grid when you see a map where you see in the axes, press the rail and iq...that ? the map time....but for the ****llo your map I think that for now, don't you need moddare times....
take a look here...even if the car and the different edc16 shall take all lamedesima operation strategy...
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?1241-Studio-approfondito-EDC16C39-Alfa-159-150CV
E92_mpower
07-01-2013, 23:59
perfect thanks...
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 00:08
Ooopps! I do not have the permissions
already that idiot I forgot.....*****o parts by request pedal..it seems to me that the ecm the call enrich colostrum in acceleration..this is the map the pedal, or the driver wish which is practically another not ? that your request for the diesel? in nm...and then in the Z-axis you're not directly in the diesel fuel, but request in the pair if the increase in for example the 50% load and 1500 rpm...of a tot you'll need to adegure also the various limitaori in the same way....
for the rest ask and you will be? given without any problems with this ? a forum where there are a few secrets and we share almost everything...
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 01:36
Oooh, finally, tomorrow I will change the map as you told me and the place
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 13:56
here is the new mod, this time I added a limiter, turbo, correct the rail pressure, the added torque limiter and limiter prex rail, in the pi? I have increased by 20% enrichment in acceleration from 50 to 100% starting from 1500 to 5000 rpm
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 14:11
I have just noticed you have made a mess on the prex turbo so I do not consider
for the moment, do not touch the press rail...
the twin-turbo bmw already traveling series to 1600 bar...
more than enough to get performances worthy of note...
system the press turbo and not depart too much from the low gains with any map.....
more or less follow always moddare from the 1500-1800 rpm and 50% load then...
search lamappa conversion nm to iq and moddala as recommended....
then you should also look for the map or lambda limiters fumes on the basis of maf and map...
as already said adapting the limitation to your request from driver-wish...
if in Dw you gave 20% more means that from 580nm for the past six to 696nm...
the same pair you have to give it to the lim torque, but you have to start gradually....
and only after the 2800-3000 rpm you can give the maximum increase in line with the DW....
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 14:52
guys keep in mind this file, I apologize for the chaos
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 15:03
I seem to have understood something.. thank you.
my only doubt ? on the axis "Z" that I don't understand where it is located.
you say: from the 1500-1800 rpm and 50% load then"
with in then you want to say, up to 100% right?
then I try to make a map where do I change only the parameters that you've told me before,
meanwhile, the increment DW as a percentage ? correct? or ? better to do it in spots?
the Z-axis, the other not ? that the contents of the map...if, for example, to display the map in a grid see very well that the outside of the table itself, you will find two columns,one horizontal and one vertical, which are highlighted in gray..those are the x and y axis...while the contents of the table and the Z-axis...these are the names for? you use them if you view the map in 2d.....
you for the "then" I am referring to from 50% to 100%...
for dw the incremto in percentage you can? do safely...
the important is to adapt the lim of torque at the request of the Dw....
and then adjust the other limiters...I am referring especially to the map conversion nm to iq..
and you have lim fumes or maps lambda on the basis of maf(mass air flow sensor) and map(turbo pressure)...
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 16:05
perfect all clear, proceed a couple of things for a time, otherwise I do mess
then along the Z axis are all the parameters in the boxes of the X and Y axes
called respectively the rpm/load
and then where are all the parameters
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exact.....for? I repeat these names are mostly intended for the visulizazzione 2d and 3d....
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 19:16
obvious, between a p? I come back home I change the file from scratch and then map the stock and I'm going to increase as I've told you.
and place the map
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 20:45
edit made you put the images
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in practice, I've increased both the enrichment in c. both the torque limiter of 200 points.
see if I did well, otherwise the 20% increase in
I can't find anyway no voice NM/IQ
modest increases in....this car that the gearbox mounts? manual or automatic?if ? automatic you can leave it like this ... if the manual you can dare a little more....
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 20:57
modest increases in....this car that the gearbox mounts? manual or automatic?if ? automatic you can leave it like this ... if the manual you can dare a little more....
bmw535d there is only automatic
then 200 points have to be well ok...
while the map conversion nm to iq I can't find it...
what do I do I do with the press and limiter of the turbo?
magi1984
08-01-2013, 21:01
you can find it by examining the 2d map from the address d7644 then
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 21:04
thanks magi
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 21:09
but in 2d I can't see anything only the beginning of a curve
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 21:38
you can find it by examining the 2d map from the address d7644 then
I select all and increase??;)
magi1984
08-01-2013, 22:07
watch in 2d, as are the increments that you gave in the other maps, and act accordingly.
I have not looked at your map, however, do not go over the 7 - 8 % increase
E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 22:14
increase 0d7644? or all of the gobbette?
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E92_mpower
08-01-2013, 22:18
and the mod 2293
I can't see the image but it seems to me that you have changed all over the map, including aces... according to me cos? not good....you should start moddare from where you have moddato DW and TL...then I s? ch you are still missing the maps lambda...
if moddi,adjusting to the DW,10 maps of limitation... but leave only a ori your iq(injection quantity) sar? always castrated from that only limiter....
magi1984
09-01-2013, 08:44
that is, the first "2 teeth" are the axes, and those must be original
also, you should start to change from where you've changed the other maps, as it says munro.
the cio? if you have begun modifying at 1500rpm, you have to start from the "5 tooth" to change.
so in summary let the original the first 2 curves that are the axes, and the next 4 curves that are the rom to has been of the 1500giri.
if you've started to change since 50% of the load in the other maps, even here do too by changing from the middle of the curve up to the end
? pi? easy to do it than to explain it
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 09:29
ok but the fundamental problem ? that I from 2d I don't know where to look to figure out what rpm and at what load
I make a screen please?
magi1984
09-01-2013, 09:54
just look how you've changed the maps of enrichment and acceleration in 2d to figure out how to change that
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 10:26
you're telling me that I have to select the same number of "gobbette" call them so? and that start and end at the same point as those of the map DW with clearly the same increase.
However, I realized it only remains for me to try... some place the image of the 2d
magi1984
09-01-2013, 11:23
you have to select as you said, exact? not with the same increase why? these are two different maps, in the map nm on iq, you can be between 5 and 10% increase
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 11:36
thanks for the important tips that are giving me now I have no way to apply the changes to just do the whole place
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 13:58
there we are
then I left the first 6 gobbette stock as said and incremetato the other 5%
starting from the 1500giri in then I put the photo of the 2D one ? to see the starting point of the other to see all the parts increase
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still no go well..according to me....zoom the map with the ecm and controls better..the first two curves are still moddate even with increases in negative....
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 15:15
ilproblema of the data in the negative ? that I was not able to return the selection as ori
enlarge curves in 2d by varying the reference scales in the top right of the screen....you can vary as you want..if you zoom in and easier to put it all in norm...
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 15:34
I arranged to watch now
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E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 16:37
where c'? written 256x1?
now it's ok...the size can vary by changing where c'? written 256x1 and where c'? written 63546.....
now switch to moddare maps lambda...
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 19:21
now it's ok...the size can vary by changing where c'? written 256x1 and where c'? written 63546.....
now switch to moddare maps lambda...
hahahahaha and where is it located?? or better know as the calls ECM 6.3 in its menu?
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 19:21
from that floor plan is the map we're doing...
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 19:31
the maps and lambda-what are they for? to adjust the probe of the regenerations of the DPF true?
hahahahaha and where is it located?? or better know as the calls ECM 6.3 in its menu?
in the screen of the display 2d of the ecm to the right in the gray menu are written "uses info driver" just above this wording c'? a box with the selection read size of the file in the screen you posted ? set to 65536...something like this...
the maps lambda I s? which are outside of the driver....or at least I don't remember how that sw weird calls these maps...
in the axes of the maps lamdda you have the air intake from the maf, the rpm and the iq(quantity? injected)...same thing for the lambda map based only instead of the air intake you have the turbo pressure...
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 19:58
you say that I should convert everything to work on WinOls?
cmq ecm I in men? injection
injection zoned
injection correction
rail pressure
injection phase
aricchimento acceleration
menu turbo
turbo pressure
pressure turbo f (temp)
time of an overboost
menu limiters
torque limiter
torque limiter #2
pressure limiter #1
pressure limiter #2
rail pressure limiter
speed limiter
sevuoi let's do it****according to me you're doing a bit of confusion.
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 20:43
sevuoi let's do it****according to me you're doing a bit of confusion.
Explain explain... I have only followed the advice they are giving me users, you can have your say if I'm doing something wrong because? I'm trying to learn something
what year explained the other I don't want to judge because each works in its own way but if you want a board you have to mod. 1 at a time and work on one at a time, however, if I remember well, your a edc16 right I go back to the first, tell me, what do you see at first and tell me what that means?
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 21:09
But, in fact, do not have to judge if you want to give me a hand
Until now what I have understood ? I have increased the flow of fuel from the accelerator pedal and I adjusted the limiter...
then on that map you are explained to you, sorry if I puntualizzo inansi everything begins to speak of the maps that mod. to the given diesel on that map?
alberto.bf
09-01-2013, 21:28
marco, are you?
Hello
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 21:51
I'm working on the drive wish edc16
0k good this map as you go mod in percentage or points? and how much would you give for.
msport (exil77grande)
09-01-2013, 22:06
marco, are you?
Hello
exact mark and' him', but you should move on from the presentations section and introduce yourself in the appropriate manner, and then read the rules.
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 22:14
0k good this map as you go mod in percentage or points? and how much would you give for.
Then I don't know what to say why? I don't know where you are going or what you're implying
I have written everything I have done a few pages ago,
if you are cos? bravo, go look at the file and understand.
If you have something to say tell me tricks and half-measures don't like
I'm sorry if you feel offended I to only said that according to me you were doing confusion and if you went to start again from the**** you miai said if you gave unamano and without being cocky, I told you to start from**** I was bringing back to the first map to let you know how it should be mod. I didn't want to do the professor I'm sorry and I'm intruding more
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 22:31
I have to excuse you, I had not understand what you wanted to say
Anyway, as explained also I'm not making confusion are already? starting from zero
Then by changing the dw and the limiter the dw I have given increase of 200 points if I remember correctly
And a 7% increase on the limiter, what I understand ? not be increased in points or in %
But anyway, you have to always consider the real values... I repeat, if you want me to help you follow all the tips are
Accepted
marco, are you?
Hello
alberto, you should switch to the presentations before continuing..thanks.
E92_mpower
09-01-2013, 23:56
No one Knows how can I, or should I continue?
you say that I should convert everything to work on WinOls?
cmq ecm I in men? injection
pressure raillo the name says, but for the moment they touch it
phase iniezionedovrebbe be the egr...do not touch it
aricchimento acceleration=Drivers Wish
menu turbo
pressure turbomappa turbo
turbo pressure f (temp)map turbo as a function of temperature
time overboostmappa an overboost turbo
menu limiters
limiter coppiaidem
torque limiter #2idem
limiter pressure raillimitatore press rail
the other maps are important outside the driver....
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 08:58
*munro I can Not find the lim fumes.
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 10:07
ask and you will be? ... I hope that you can understand what it is, a ? the screen
injection zoned, and the other injection correction
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antonio.o
10-01-2013, 11:39
hello I do not s? if ? the right section st? starting even I get interested in this fantastic world of the chiptuner I bought the equipment to read the ecu I managed already? to read the file I have it saved on your pc now, who can help me?. Thanks.
hello antonio.or I think that first you have to vederese your problem is inherent to this discussion if not I advise you to see on the forum the discussion that pertain to your problems.
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 12:14
antonio, you may open a discussone that pertain to your specific situation the cio? the car and ecu type
for? first checks whether c'? some discussion that is about what you need to do...
ask and you will be? ... I hope that you can understand what it is, a ? the screen
injection zoned, and the other injection correction
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from the table, I just can't understand what it is...
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 13:46
I seem to have figured out where is the map limiter smoke after you post a picture.
You in 2D you can not see where is this lim??
magi1984
10-01-2013, 14:16
on edc16c35 bmw ? need to change the limiter flue gas to take the car.
by modifying appropriately accelerator pedal, injection timing, rail pressure, and limiter, pressure turbo and limiter, nm on iq, torque limiters and torque limiters for gear you get great results for a first step of change
antonio.o
10-01-2013, 14:22
antonio, you may open a discussone that pertain to your specific situation the cio? the car and ecu type
for? first checks whether c'? some discussion that is about what you need to do...
Ok, but what section do you recommend?.
Thanks.
magi1984
10-01-2013, 14:33
antonio.o
10-01-2013, 14:38
Thanks now I'm busy with the daughters and accompany it to the university? tonight or tomorrow we begin.
Hello.
on edc16c35 bmw ? need to change the limiter flue gas to take the car.
by modifying appropriately accelerator pedal, injection timing, rail pressure, and limiter, pressure turbo and limiter, nm on iq, torque limiters and torque limiters for gear you get great results for a first step of change
nono I agree the magi...if the lim fumes limits the iq to a certain amount? you can increase the maps that you mentioned is also 100%....The IQ will always be limited by that single lim fumes....then pu? maybe I'm wrong...
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 14:54
on edc16c35 bmw ? need to change the limiter flue gas to take the car.
by modifying appropriately accelerator pedal, injection timing, rail pressure, and limiter, pressure turbo and limiter, nm on iq, torque limiters and torque limiters for gear you get great results for a first step of change
nono I agree the magi...if the lim fumes limits the iq to a certain amount? you can increase the maps that you mentioned is also 100%....The IQ will always be limited by that single lim fumes....then pu? maybe I'm wrong...
However, I'm not understanding anything I'm reading and seeing the world but not of it, I come to**** li lim fumes can not find it anywhere, maybe I have to change the software to edit the maps...
if you or magi to give me just another help you in more? to understand where I could find it
otherwise well abandonment all really there I'm coming crazy
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 16:07
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 16:24
here are?
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E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 16:45
* munro to the limiter smokes I gave the same increase of the limiter arrich. accel.
magi1984
10-01-2013, 16:46
*munro: I rest of my opinion, for a first step not need touch limiter fumosit? ne advances.
*E92:2 maps accelerator pedal, a time of injection, rail pressure, and limiter are 5 or 6 maps, ditto for the turbo pressure, nm on iq are 5 maps, torque limiters 5 maps, torque limiters by gear 6 maps. as you can see I am not the just a few maps that I have listed.
however, in your file maps lambda are 13
depart from D53D8 are all in the file, one behind the other
magi1984
10-01-2013, 16:54
the map that tells munro that restricts the IQ to a certain amount? I don't call it a limiter fumes but limiter IQ, and in your file is to the address D3E04, limits the amount? injected to 80mm3
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 17:54
thanks magi, but in the end? what should I do? and as I have to do?
here, in one way or another, we have to go forward, this ? a map of the study
I don't have to load it from anywhere I have to figure out how it works and learn to make maps series
this ? my goal.
you have to adjust the limitation to the request....all the maps where c'? a limitation to your request should be adapted to the latter....if the pedal request 600nm of torque that correspond to 90mm3 of fuel(random numbers) all the maps of limitation you have to make in order to have that request...
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 18:53
I have to check then, but I seem to remember the same digits at the maximum load
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 18:55
the map that tells munro that restricts the IQ to a certain amount? I don't call it a limiter fumes but limiter IQ, and in your file is to the address D3E04, limits the amount? injected to 80mm3
you're telling me that I'm wrong address mod?
you st? saying that, in addition to the maps lambda and its limiters fumes....
at the address described c'? also this map of the limitation of iq.....
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 19:17
that of course, v? limited now ? all clear... and the limiting values of course must coincide with the increases in
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 19:18
oh I forgot, go anyway always done in the same way the cio? from 50% to 100% load
and from 1500 to 1800 and up
do not v? limited...v? bounded....
the limitations must be adapted to the requests...
in all the maps......
bh? obvious..if you begin to take a more "areas" also, the limitations must be adapted to the new request in the "same areas"....
magi1984
10-01-2013, 19:24
if you look at the map of the limitation of IQ, you'll see a straight line with a value of 8000
that 8000 corresponds to 80's fuel injected, I am not sure if I am mm3 or mg
however, do lappe cosx? to ****llo theoretical does nothing, the map should be tested on the car to see how it goes and figure out what changes if it touches this or that
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 19:32
vabb? in the meantime, I begin to understand what to do, then the test will be?...
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 19:33
once the map will be? complete and you can? load cos? you can try
E92_mpower
10-01-2013, 20:52
what do you think :D
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E92...watch the values in the boxes labeled "DEC" you see that in the ori have 8000 that corresponds to 80mm3 of diesel...
while in the value is modified and 8200 that ? 82mm3....
now, instead of increase, and just the maps trying to figure out what you're doing....
go to the map nm on iq scroll the cursor on the map where you moddato ? see in the tables that you accenavo before "dec", the maximum value that you have....
if the maximum value ? more than 8200 or 82mm3 then you have to align the map of restriction to the request of the nm>iq...
the map of lambda is not the can't see well... I can't even see the boards..but to the eye I don't like so much...according to me lai moddata without knowing what you were doing...
megamind
10-01-2013, 23:19
once the map will be? complete and you can? load cos? you can try
I think that as you said the magi, you should go to the step of tests on the evidence to understand exactly what you're doing, with the many changes if you need to calibrate with precision and refine the risk then of having to start everything from**** without understanding what happens...
megamind
10-01-2013, 23:21
edit but what are the 4****? I do not I put them bhaa!
magi1984
11-01-2013, 00:20
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 00:28
ok now I do it well I just wanted to confirm that I had selected the correct parameters
I'm sorry, munro, but the map NM/IQ I can't find it or anyway I have all the values in the dec less than 8200
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 01:04
then let's see if I can make me understand I like
enrichment and acceleration dec ori 6133 and mod 6333 (an increase of 200 points)
torque limiter dec ori 5500 mod 5700 (an increase of 200 points)
limiter IQ address D3E04 dec ori 8000 mod 8200 (an increase of 200 points)
map lambda d53d8 dec ori 1290 mod 1380 (an increase of 7%)
map NM/IQ-dec ori 6118 mod 6546 (an increase of 7%)
and just if you want to attach the mod but at this point I don't understand where? the inconguenza
megamind
11-01-2013, 01:30
why? increases the lamda of 7%?
have you done a calculation?
in Dw and in the torque limiter those numbers are newtonmetro torque motor....
now you Dw request max 633nm torque and then the castri with the lim of torque at 570nm....
according to you, E92 how many nm do you provide? the car.....
for the limiter fumes or maps of lambda is not enough to give a incremeto and all, but you have to understand first what it is..if ? a lim fumes on the air intake(maf) or turbo pressure(map)...
you, it seems to me that you have moddato only one on the air intake(maf) but the ecu-c'? there are others....
these maps lambda is moddano with the calculator at hand..why you should divide the intake air with the iq in the map in order to obtain a certain stoichiometric ratio and at the same time "to raise the limitation" of the iq...
in the map nm>iq that value that you read ? in mm3 of diesel fuel, then the maximum that "maybe" inietter? this car will be? 65,46mm3 of diesel...pochini to make things worthy of note....
if you wanted to only inject 65mm3 of diesel fuel, there was no need to touch lalimitazione iq 82mm3....
E92, you need to understand the correlations between the maps...why? if you feel it's only us that we say to you increases a tot or tot l?...you will never understand how modda map....if you want to do as the maggir part of the mapparoli turn...then forget all these things ? go directly to the map injection time and fuel by increasing the time....
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 09:38
Munro, you have been very clear to me, but before these answers are not me, has ever given anyone.
So Thanks a lot and make? the changes by the calculations and adjusting all
You say, and I do :D:D:D
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 09:42
why? increases the lamda of 7%?
have you done a calculation?
no I have not done any calculation I thought it was just because? I also increased the other parameters of the 7% and I thought I was going to cos?
but I was wrong, I have corrected, and then practice you learn and now I know that I have to watch all of the values and thinking that the limiters
limit in such a way that the change to take effect, otherwise the limit cut, and then all increments are useless
megamind
11-01-2013, 09:47
But these calculations you can do in the clear?
Namely, starting from the request pedal to get X pair I need to X the variation of mm3...
and then systems limiters in order to fulfill the request.
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 10:05
the so-called cos? it seems easy but I am a ca pra in the field so I have to make a p? practice, are things that I never done before
as the title ? the first map that I try to do
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 10:06
... however, I do not have any problem to do the calculations in the clear
megamind
11-01-2013, 11:37
Here many like me in the first place are learning valuable things spizzicando info to the right and the left.
Unfortunately, not ? easy why? there are a lot of info is conflicting and not c'? a precise method. Let's say that each map in its own way.
Not ? easy to make a good map if you do not calculate well what you want to achieve.
The road ? long why? in addition to the calculations then you have to log in and see things if you really are as you want to.
And achieved a satisfactory result from a roll not the f? evil.
To make a mappetta it takes very little and gains you feel equally then if you vent to? you repent of those values drawn on to cazzum...
Study, study, and sweat the info!
Fortunately this forum gives you? listen to and helps you truly understand things.
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 11:43
* megamind is well said, in regard to the info how do you log?
with a hardware and a software suitable..it connects via obd ecu and through sw select the parameters that you want to record-monitor...type the iq or the intake air or the press turbo, etc,etc....in this way you are sure that a mod e.g. the increase of iq was actually "received" by the ecu...
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 14:50
munro makes the revo to do a statue, and also to the magi
no..no.. no statues for me...I just try your 535d....great machine...think that one map,made as it should be,this car exceeds the 350cv.....speaking of which, your mounts the dpf???
magi1984
11-01-2013, 16:06
not s? if you had already? been said or not, but the address C4672 c'? another limiting quantity? injected
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 16:08
maybe....I would very much like to ask for it to try,
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 16:08
not s? if you had already? been said or not, but the address C4672 c'? another limiting quantity? injected
no I was not aware of thanks
for the dpf that you tell me?? if you do not remove, you can't overdo it with the map...
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 16:15
ah munro I have the dpf
E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 16:16
for the dpf that you tell me?? if you do not remove, you can't overdo it with the map...
I know but so much of the car ? my father...
E92_mpower
13-01-2013, 19:57
I am attaching the file with the change of the torque limiter
other increases I do not understand if they are right.
the Dw can go...I don't like the torque limiter...not to start immediately with an increase of the genre but raccordalo a p? at the start and at the end of the same....then explain to me a p? the mod to the map, the lambda?? as you moddato??
also I wanted to ask you...from the driver's wish and lim torque request 633 nm of torque, but in the map nm>iq qul? the maximum value??are you sure that there are 633nm in this map??
E92_mpower
14-01-2013, 09:33
no, in fact, no, I'm not very sure, I don't have a good understanding of the calculations to be done :(
the torque limiter ok I understand what I have to moddare in the sense that the maximum peak of the 633 nm li I have to give it to 4000rpm.
the map lambda had curves that were the reverse of those that I have seen usually and I moddate a p? to the case..
give me a hand... :D
the lim as a couple, you did nothing...why? the limiter? the car up to 4000 rpm and only after that have no more....
the increase should also be given in the lim torque starting from the same rpm you need to start moddare the Dw, but you have to start gradually in small increments type 3-6-9-12%.....until it reaches the percentage you want...and only after the 2500-2800 rpm, you can give the maximum request...and then go down towards the end of the same.
for the map, lambda, you have to first recognize what you have in the boards..very sure that you have the rpm,the air intake maf (mg/cyc and iq..once you have established what you have to do you recalculate everything and the moddi accordingly....
E92_mpower
14-01-2013, 17:24
mmm... tonight I have to study well the thing...
otherwise I just mess things up and I did not realize what I do, and why? I do
E92_mpower
16-01-2013, 17:22
here is the last modified file, this should be ok even if I was leggerino seen that the car has the dpf
the only thing the maps lambda've let the ori or the cmq changed but without any sense. if someone corrects me... Thanks.
megamind
16-01-2013, 18:39
Unfortunately, too often you run into this type of problem, I hardly moddo if I do not know perfectly what I'm doing. Sometimes if I change something then check with the logs the results so you can understand what are the effects.
Surely someone do you give? a hand, you must have patience.
E92_mpower
16-01-2013, 18:52
megamind thank you anyway, you'll see that we will grow ourselves... my work :D
E92_mpower
20-01-2013, 17:23
No one tells me if it could be go well with this map?
guys date an opinion on this poor christ...I have no chance? read the file for problems with the pc...if not the "I said two words"...
No one tells me if it could be go well with this map?
Sorry, but is made without logic,the increments of the torque limiters are too low,the press rail does not happen,pres turbo idem,arr acc hurt
and missing the maps in place,the rest is not to be
E92_mpower
21-01-2013, 10:39
it seems strange to me why? I have checked that both DW I gave 633Nm torque but I have given after 1500 rpm starting cmq gradually and the cio? not 633nm immediately to 1500rpm
and I adjusted both the torque limiter to the Nm required, the press rail working base to 1600 bar and I brought it to the 1700's always at 100% load, turbo pressure equal to,
for maps injection what do you mean?
are a p? confused...also, not being able to examine the file...the one that says admin map ? the whole redo it..and from your words the logic of increase of the dw and limiters seem to be consistent....some screen you can? see...maybe we understand better all about as moddare these maps with logic...
E92_mpower
21-01-2013, 16:12
tonight I'll post the screen of the 2d
antonio.o
21-01-2013, 16:32
tonight I'll post the screen of the 2d
good so I want to begin to understand something myself.
hello.
E92_mpower
21-01-2013, 19:07
antonio I have opened this discussion on purpose cos? other beginners like me, I can find many interesting things about how to start from scratch without knowing, axes etc to recognize a map and maybe to develop it seriously, but we need to work all of you.. I will be there and later on place the screen
antonio.o
21-01-2013, 20:20
antonio I have opened this discussion on purpose cos? other beginners like me, I can find many interesting things about how to start from scratch without knowing, axes etc to recognize a map and maybe to develop it seriously, but we need to work all of you.. I will be there and later on place the screen
from what I can there are as well I do for this hobby, and I threw it with all of myself, I repeat only for my knowledge and curiosity? st? spending some time and purchase then the euro.
hello
E92_mpower
22-01-2013, 14:17
here is the screen, and mod files. I had to redo because? I had saved the mod to the torque limiter
antonio.o
22-01-2013, 15:58
at the moment I can't read lean as sar? the them comment and help me understand the various steps.
E92_mpower
22-01-2013, 19:14
I have done nothing that I mod the Drive Wish and appropriate the torque limiter to the request then turbo diesel and its limiters, and I mod the map Nm/IQ but it sicurente correct almost everything-I hope not
from the screen posted doesn't seem bad...ask 633nm in the dw, and the tl seems to correspond to the request...starting from a number of laps reasonable in all ? two maps.....I can not understand why? admin says it's not ? good...
E92_mpower
23-01-2013, 14:50
from the screen posted doesn't seem bad...ask 633nm in the dw, and the tl seems to correspond to the request...starting from a number of laps reasonable in all ? two maps.....I can not understand why? admin says it's not ? good...
I don't know avr? saw other parameters... anyway, I realized, and I've also written before that the map I posted previously that the torque limiter in the ecm I had saved with the change to 633nm now I hope it goes well, in the meantime, I await the answers of someone more? expert
E92_mpower
25-01-2013, 18:54
I made a new map, but only on the map the pedal and torque limiter you tell me if it's okay?
panny200555
26-01-2013, 00:53
hello,
being a beginner, I am following this discussion with interest! Thanks to all but a special thanks to MUNRO that is helping in all the ways possible by giving explanations to every thing.
x E92: if you chew a bit of English, I can recommend a link that explains in a simple way the operation of a diesel engine and how they work, maps, and above all it tells you the meaning of many terms used in the world of tuning.
If the admin allows me to I can post the link? a kind of wiki).
hello
from the screen posted doesn't seem bad...ask 633nm in the dw, and the tl seems to correspond to the request...starting from a number of laps reasonable in all ? two maps.....I can not understand why? admin says it's not ? good...
Have you looked at the map well?
Enrichment in the acc and hurt because you have a 57% increase, to finish at 3% which is too high at the beginning and disproportionately low at the end
Rail pressure of 0.9% almost anything,from 4000giri and ori as ever?you can also go to a 7-8% or even more depends on what you want, the similar maps made bad check the map 1 and tene notice
Turbo pressure 110punti are low, you can raise it,parts from rpm lower
Pressure turbo f(temp) 30punti below are few and 240 at the top are too many
limit torque parts by 2700giri, too high, and increases in too low of 3.5%on this type of car can go above 18%,the same applies also to the other torque limiters, and above all, you have to check the maps related to the latter, a
Pressure limiter turbine 100punti then the lower pressure turbine
The second limiter press turbine instead 220punti why?
Limit press rail 0,3% ??????
What has become of the injection ?if you do not get up in this you can give the whole pressure turbine,rail,or arr in the acc, but you never get the right results
Too much theory is not good it also takes practice to make go fast a car otherwise you are likely to consume the calculator doing all of these calculations:D
msport (exil77grande)
27-01-2013, 12:42
hahahh this beautiful, however, are d0'agreement with him.
[QUOTE=E92_mpower;25435]I made a new map, but only on the map the pedal and torque limiter you tell me if it's okay?[/QUOTE
Now that you think, keep it up',to the limit pair given that the 535 has the currency exchange auto not to overdo it go to trial when the alzali a little at a time, and especially test the car
E92_mpower
28-01-2013, 11:05
[QUOTE=E92_mpower;25435]I made a new map, but only on the map the pedal and torque limiter you tell me if it's okay?[/QUOTE
Now that you think, keep it up',to the limit pair given that the 535 has the currency exchange auto not to overdo it go to trial when the alzali a little at a time, and especially test the car
thanks admin for your patience, for one thing you believe is better not to exceed 650/670nm of torque or say I can go up again a p?? I remember that type 2250giri there was kind of a peak, and talk about DW
arrived at 710Nm which I then adapted in the limitarore
Have you looked at the map well?
Enrichment in the acc and hurt because you have a 57% increase, to finish at 3% which is too high at the beginning and disproportionately low at the end
Rail pressure of 0.9% almost anything,from 4000giri and ori as ever?you can also go to a 7-8% or even more depends on what you want, the similar maps made bad check the map 1 and tene notice
Turbo pressure 110punti are low, you can raise it,parts from rpm lower
Pressure turbo f(temp) 30punti below are few and 240 at the top are too many
limit torque parts by 2700giri, too high, and increases in too low of 3.5%on this type of car can go above 18%,the same applies also to the other torque limiters, and above all, you have to check the maps related to the latter, a
Pressure limiter turbine 100punti then the lower pressure turbine
The second limiter press turbine instead 220punti why?
Limit press rail 0,3% ??????
What has become of the injection ?if you do not get up in this you can give the whole pressure turbine,rail,or arr in the acc, but you never get the right results
Too much theory is not good it also takes practice to make go fast a car otherwise you are likely to consume the calculator doing all of these calculations:D
bh?...then ? worthy of the section maps joke....don't you think?ahahaha
Riuppo this discussion given that it is for the usual drive.
I have calculated the various parameters with excel on the basis of what I wanted but I have 3 worries:
0C4814: I don't know if it is the map smoke
0C52A8 and the 3 subsequent: you should be a Limiter flue gas based on the MAF?
0C3E68 and the next map Are the DW, but for me to express the mm^3 injected; according to you, are the torque values? on the map mod I made as if on the Z-axis there were, however, nm
Greetings.
hi,
0C52A8 and later I think they are the management of the duty cycle of the EGR what do you think?
having deleted, I think) there is no need to touch it
0EE59C and the 3 maps later:
I couple more maps, an overboost, according to you?
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