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panterargento
04-01-2013, 10:41
Hi to all,
I would like to know precisely when you do a reading ? better to make a complete, or only data?
What are the differences?
Thanks.
hello I try to answer I...read the full, you only BDM,and usually you do on those machines, or on those units a bit special, or where you can not do without( edc17 for example) a read data and the read via obd... it would be better to always do a full read of the file,so you always have a backup in case of a blockage of the ecu in writing, or in case of problems...we also have to say that today molter readings ocmplete, is found also on the forum or on the web, then most of the times you go via obd.... hello
panterargento
04-01-2013, 11:00
hello I try to answer I...read the full, you only BDM,and usually you do on those machines, or on those units a bit special, or where you can not do without( edc17 for example) a read data and the read via obd... it would be better to always do a full read of the file,so you always have a backup in case of a blockage of the ecu in writing, or in case of problems...we also have to say that today molter readings ocmplete, is found also on the forum or on the web, then most of the times you go via obd.... hello
Yes, but then why? mpps v12 also the option of reading the full?
Therefore, there is not anything?
panterargento
04-01-2013, 11:03
But a backup made in the BDM, can you? restore with mpps?
if the serial gives you the possibility to choose the full-scale reading.
Hello Panterargento, I try to answer your question, why? I'm afraid you're making confusion...
With BDM read all the memories and the data inside the ecu.
MPPS I have never seen it n? used, but like other devices that work via the OBD I imagine that he has the option to choose whether to read "all" or only "data".
In this case, I think the difference is that reading it all, read the entire flash dov'? contained the map itself, while with "data" you should only read the part of the flash that contains plans that interest you for the changes.
Then, as I was advised by the pi? experts in the other discussion, I think you should read it all (so you will have it in case of problems or blockages), while I think it is better to write only the tables.
I look forward, however, confirmed by the who expert MPPS. :)
elettro72
04-01-2013, 17:47
hello I really did not find any difference in the read complete(kline only) or data only(default)....the file was of equal magnitude and did not change
panterargento
04-01-2013, 19:16
Hello Panterargento, I try to answer your question, why? I'm afraid you're making confusion...
With BDM read all the memories and the data inside the ecu.
MPPS I have never seen it n? used, but like other devices that work via the OBD I imagine that he has the option to choose whether to read "all" or only "data".
In this case, I think the difference is that reading it all, read the entire flash dov'? contained the map itself, while with "data" you should only read the part of the flash that contains plans that interest you for the changes.
Then, as I was advised by the pi? experts in the other discussion, I think you should read it all (so you will have it in case of problems or blockages), while I think it is better to write only the tables.
I look forward, however, confirmed by the who expert MPPS. :)
Maybe it was cos?, have a full read (backup) would be very useful, in the pi? I'd be pi? quiet.
Still have it? a full read and a data and put? in comparison with ecm titanium to see if I can notice any differences.
hello I really did not find any difference in the read complete(kline only) or data only(default)....the file was of equal magnitude and did not change
I don't think that centers the size of the file, but that c'? inside..., why? I think that the reading of the data would leave empty or fill the space some areas of the full-scale reading with the other, by giving the size of the same file.
However, as it says bart, expect some qualified will respond to us.
elettro72
04-01-2013, 20:08
the file that I had read in one way and then the other were all the same inside.......tomorrow I try again to get comferma......*****s, I'm curious too look some expert
the file that I had read in one way, the other were all the same inside.......
A strange curiosity?: the comparison between the two readings, the you had done in 2D?
elettro72
04-01-2013, 20:27
hello bart, I had loaded on the ecm then in 2d just to do next difference and makes you see if there are differences between two files.....
Exactly there? I wanted to know... ;)
elettro72
04-01-2013, 21:04
tomorrow I try again to read it for confirmation........
dvdtuning
04-01-2013, 21:12
A strange curiosity?: the comparison between the two readings, the you had done in 2D?
I have done the comparison and were indentiche the 2 readings...checked in 2d
msport (exil77grande)
04-01-2013, 22:32
I confirm what has been written by bart for the speech that the back up is in bdm and reads all the code key in some cases, etc, and for the speech he wrapped it works wrapped no, but for safety reasons you should always read mode in full, then, to write and to hurry before you can do so in the mode data only.
msport (exil77grande)
04-01-2013, 22:34
I also confirm that what is written by panterargento that the two readings only and full data do not differ from the dimension that, in fact, remains unchanged, but from the data in the file, the starting area is usually in the case of data-only has a straight line all fffffff while the kit has a lot of data is not understandable.
panterargento
04-01-2013, 22:51
Thanks msport for the confirmation...you're always very timely manner...:D
Today...I learned and understood so much, hoping that I do not forget, among the many doubts that I could open a discussion of the same:or
elettro72
05-01-2013, 11:30
hi I have just read the files of my car is full data......not c? no difference in the initial part ? a straight line...... at this point I think that changes, or according to the ecu ,mine ? a edc 15,or mpps
msport (exil77grande)
05-01-2013, 11:41
hi I have just read the files of my car is full data......not c? no difference in the initial part ? a straight line...... at this point I think that changes, or according to the ecu ,mine ? a edc 15,or mpps
changes according to the type of ecu.
panterargento
05-01-2013, 14:51
Hio did a full read edc16c39, it looks the same to the data, initially also full ? covered by ffff, this ? as he read mpps v12.
msport (exil77grande)
05-01-2013, 15:33
Hio did a full read edc16c39, it looks the same to the data, initially also full ? covered by ffff, this ? as he read mpps v12.
I'll give you an example with kess v2 and golf 5 2.0 tdi 140cv you can set read/write complete,of course, I always do full read and lasts just a few minutes,then in the writing I have done 2 tests, i.e. if I write full takes about 13 minutes if I do a data only takes about 7 minutes and then a difference there will be.
panterargento
05-01-2013, 16:00
Prover? to write this complete reading and see how much it takes, usually the one I have, only the data, writes it in 1 min. (I always make reference to mpps 12).
msport (exil77grande)
05-01-2013, 16:01
Prover? to write this complete reading and see how much it takes, usually the one I have, only the data, writes it in 1 min. (I always make reference to mpps 12).
well, if the two files are identical does not change even have time to write.
I wanted to make a question about it if I have to change the ecu and find hw to be the same and I have the sw is different I can do the readings of the sw with mpps and after-sale service, on the other ecu or do I need to force bdm.......
msport (exil77grande)
05-01-2013, 17:05
you have to do it in the bdm.
tuommo89
05-01-2013, 21:57
with mpps v5, they told me ke ? indifferent of it in 1 way or another reading.....that does not change anything....then, I have never compared the two files !
But I think that if the**** says the bdm is what is pi? safe then if you want to try with mpps according to me it is always test everything for? I will say that experience counts, then, the evidence at this time, you can always do.......
maurof650
24-08-2013, 15:55
hello I really did not find any difference in the read complete(kline only) or data only(default)....the file was of equal magnitude and did not change
I made a infinity? of tests and I have reached the same conclusions.
Hazard a guess: to snuff, I believe that I can change the mode? writing, therefore, that they are the best options? of recovery if the first write is not successful!
It is only a hypothesis for?!
dvdtuning
04-09-2013, 19:35
In that sense? as scrittora from mpps from:
Bench (fast)
Normal (default)
Recovery (slow)
I have always written in normal, only when it crashes I try the recovery.
nasone147
04-09-2013, 20:31
I always normal!thanking God never problems!(sprinkling);)
maurof650
04-09-2013, 22:48
At the beginning I did the test to read and write in the various mode? and in the end I saw that nothing changes regardless of the mode? of reading and writing.
The only difference is when you write in mode. recovery and I have to say that it works, but the use of the few times in which the control unit does not want to do write.
On the reading I did the test and read the file in different mode? offered by the MPPS12 and I have not noticed any difference even if it is read in mode. complete; the comparison between the various readings I've done with the ECM, so I always read with mode? the default "Medium" "Default".
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