159 150HP "strength"

[emilground]

Hello everyone, this morning I called an acquaintance, why? has problems with the DPF and asks me to resolve the problem cos? in the afternoon comes and I leave the car after I explained to him what should be done.
The first thing I make a diagnosis, and of course the filter is clogged in the pi? c'? an anomaly on the differential pressure sensor, pi? an error on the air mass meter. Gate errors, and I read the serial and then proceed with the elimination of the DPF in the map. Just finished reading I try to put in motion the car.
Well one thing never seen before, so that the filter ? clogged that a fool does not even reach to 3500 rpm and to get there it takes about 5 seconds ! At the beginning I had not noticed why? the car has brought him up to the working position.
The differential pressure sensor gave me over 1000 mBar at full throttle !
But there ? ever had a case cos? extreme ? Tomorrow, meanwhile, provides for the physical removal and see how it goes in the car hoping that there are no other damages. Practically ? almost a year walking almost in those conditions, and about 10 days ? couldn't be handled, uphill in first gear, just you can't move, if you stop "? lost".

[coma]

Removed physically the FAP , check out the ****llo Oil why? safe and high
( c'? diesel)
Then do the luca stanca with ecusafe that should go.
If you want to do a clean job, you should find the straight tube directly in Alfa Romeo as a replacement

[FidodidoTuning]

? the egr valve...
you incongruity in the air?

[giarras]

in addition to defappare you should also check the egr valve..I game a coffee? I'm sure that remains open.

[emilground]

Removed physically the FAP , check out the ****llo Oil why? safe and high
( c'? diesel)
Then do the luca stanca with ecusafe that should go.
If you want to do a clean job, you should find the straight tube directly in Alfa Romeo as a replacement

The ****llo oil ? normal, has done it the cutting it seems, from a week to ten days. Since the filter ? to throw we need? to empty it, at least cos? he wants me to be.
The mod file already? I did that and also loaded, and not by the pi? errors for? of course, he can't walk why? ? clogged to the extreme.


? the egr valve...
you incongruity in the air?

No I do not by incongruity in the air, to? never before seen in a car with a filter cos? clogged, stuff to record!
The egr diagnosis works and not c'? no error, for? of course I closed the map. For safety put? well as a flange..
The swirl work on a regular basis. It is just the exhaust that comes not out of almost nothing

[rego88]

[emilground]

but if it was the EGR should give some error, instead I have found is stored and diagnosis, it works well. Also doing the test, only the control panel is on, you see that it works normally.
According to me ? the filter, of the rest, even if he is the egr something to the exhaust should give it into the acceleration phase, instead, released a little air.

[emilground]

maybe I do first approved 10 euros ;)

[sportknight]

azz...but how do you get in those conditions???

[legendaryslave]

azz...but how do you get in those conditions???
but before I untap and then I put the file, however, it happened that they did not have the strength even to go up to the ramp of the bridge, but I don't know if it was due to the failure or the plug of the fap

[sportknight]

I hear of people who 50000km have already? problems with the dpf...I made 100000 and are not able to get it going even in failure..never a forced regeneration...nothing of nothing..***** and it should go to was...then I wanted to remove this cap..but just why? I was interested to consume less!!

[tezzero]

There horrified..I ? 've a x3 you ? stopped in gear and not ? pi? wanted to start,in the diagnosis, everything is ok , I started to unnerve me, and I begin to remove the intake manifolds, thinking about the butterflies remained closed..when I realize that it was all ok I try to put in motion without the manifolds and the car starts spitting out all the gas from the pipe of the egr that I detached to remove them at that point, I realized that the fap was completely clogged!!! didn't want to believe it...there was all mud, hard-packed snow that blocked the holes

[carlo abarth]

the chroma me for not leaving more ... !!!!
There horrified..I ? 've a x3 you ? stopped in gear and not ? pi? wanted to start,in the diagnosis, everything is ok , I started to unnerve me, and I begin to remove the intake manifolds, thinking about the butterflies remained closed..when I realize that it was all ok I try to put in motion without the manifolds and the car starts spitting out all the gas from the pipe of the egr that I detached to remove them at that point, I realized that the fap was completely clogged!!! didn't want to believe it...there was all mud, hard-packed snow that blocked the holes

[msport (exil77grande)]

There horrified..I ? 've a x3 you ? stopped in gear and not ? pi? wanted to start,in the diagnosis, everything is ok , I started to unnerve me, and I begin to remove the intake manifolds, thinking about the butterflies remained closed..when I realize that it was all ok I try to put in motion without the manifolds and the car starts spitting out all the gas from the pipe of the egr that I detached to remove them at that point, I realized that the fap was completely clogged!!! didn't want to believe it...there was all mud, hard-packed snow that blocked the holes


I was going to write the same thing in some cases and he had to remove the manifolds because the car would not start any more.

[emilground]

Azz, but the owners go well beyond the simple "neglect". Vabb? that c'? the crisis, but the essential things you must do before you get to expensive damage..

[msport (exil77grande)]

Azz, but the owners go well beyond the simple "neglect". Vabb? that c'? the crisis, but the essential things you must do before you get to expensive damage..

neglected? the other day we mapped a car melted the owner insisted and we were satisfied.

[Tom79]

Removed physically the FAP , check out the ****llo Oil why? safe and high
( c'? diesel)
Then do the luca stanca with ecusafe that should go.
If you want to do a clean job, you should find the straight tube directly in Alfa Romeo as a replacement


The pipe is also not original, you can find him on ebay too at low cost. Ps I did on my alpha ? a brera, but it is also good for the 159, they have the same drain line.

[Chris156]

Also to me ? had an X3 with the same problem.. I made him empty the fap and had to go back to delete it from the ecu...no ? never went back and travels safely without any damage... strange things!!!! :rolleyes:

[emilground]

All sorted, it was the DPF so clogged that did not come out more? nothing on the exhaust!!
removed the filter element inside the car is a wonder!
of course, DPF and EGR removed in the map.
There is so much crap from the filter that I had never seen such a thing, even the temperature sensor was "bath powder black".

[munro]

neglected? the other day we mapped a car melted the owner insisted and we were satisfied.
Azz person, very intelligent and smart move!! and what he believed of doing a map to an engine gone??
certain that c'? n? of strange people around....
anyway back to talking about fap I say unto you, that many times is not only dependent on the driver, but ancheda other factors...I bring you the example of my sister with her giulietta 1.6 105hp 3 months of life....yesterday the car off and in full via emilia, without any warning, while on his way to work....result day of work lost most cars on the carroattrezzi and flow in the alpha since the machine ? in warranty...diagnosis...fap totally blocked...you will say bh? and a woman with the car, we will plan and make? little road...and obvious.....instead, the fact ? quite the contrary, the sister was spolpa all the days between the trip to work over 160km..and believe me it's not ? absolutely a light foot..on the contrary...maybe the avr? taken from me...but with the car we walk..and also strong....yet the fap you ? clogged...in the alpha say that pu? be the state, or a problem of the sw management engine or a problem with the diesel fuel does not comply with sulfur...bh???

[tezzero]

with the fap attention to the engine oil that you use..oils contain metal particles that, if larger than the holes in the block is..be sure to follow the specifications of the oil recommended by the manufacturer

[tezzero]

I was wrong to write..not particles above the hole...

[emilground]

I don't know what oil they have used for? the car runs only a couple of miles at a time, home and work. The foot of the person riding it ? very light. Then ? was taken as well used..

[thekid]

with the fap attention to the engine oil that you use..oils contain metal particles that, if larger than the holes in the block is..be sure to follow the specifications of the oil recommended by the manufacturer

In fact, as bardhal has the line "green" low saps that ? a diff oil from the classic xtc especially for cars equipped of the punishment of the particle filter. Even if I sincerely thought they were only, say, marketing.

[nico2610]

buond?,I ? happened with a peugeot 807 2006....was not pi? even on the floor almost.the owner tells me it is ? turned on the engine failure and the writing of the dpf clogged,you don't actually drained almost nothing from the exhaust would have to do the cleaning in the aut. but not ? state cos?,I removed the fap and the fact clean now the auto v? quite well except that when the reminders to speed? high for a p? miles v? in recoveri, control unit engine failure on and the car is not good salt of the speed with the diagniosi I have not encountered any errors stored in the ecu,after 5 min ? firm returns to go on like nothing had happened.

[tezzero]

buond?,I ? happened with a peugeot 807 2006....was not pi? even on the floor almost.the owner tells me it is ? turned on the engine failure and the writing of the dpf clogged,you don't actually drained almost nothing from the exhaust would have to do the cleaning in the aut. but not ? state cos?,I removed the fap and the fact clean now the auto v? quite well except that when the reminders to speed? high for a p? miles v? in recoveri, control unit engine failure on and the car is not good salt of the speed with the diagniosi I have not encountered any errors stored in the ecu,after 5 min ? firm returns to go on like nothing had happened.

which diagnosis do you use??

[nico2610]

hello tezzero,thank you for your interest...diagnosis ? a reflex 3130

[nico2610]

I also tried with the 4130top slr top,idem no abnormality.

[tezzero]

find a friend who has the KTS bosch and you'll see that the error pops out...

[nico2610]

thanks tezzero you do? know

[tezzero]

Have you solved it???

[nico2610]

you resolved,with the diagnosis I have checked all the values I trovatto low-volume air mass below 600 I replaced the mass air flow sensor and the car ? ok.
thanks again for your advice hello

[tezzero]

In the end it was a*******ta...next time take the deb and see if the car remains the same...

[freddyecu]

If the egr remains bloccatameccanicamente (open) and the starter motor is working vacuum in the diagnosis is working....

[nico2610]

gi? a stupid,that made me lose a little bit of time....thanks again tezzero!

[tezzero]

It happens...and believe me it will not be? for the last time!!!

[demolitionMan]

see the mass air ? one of the first things that occur when there are problems of that kind :)...