Golf 2008 1.9 tdi 105cv of 2008,for help with the maps

[sportknight]

So guys,should I make this map for a friend,nothing exaggerated, but that you should hear,I sicneramente me the cable better on the alpha :D
the vw does not know at all and I find myself already? stuck on the pedal
this ecu ? a edc16c

18666C qu? start of the maps that seem to map the pedal even if I look a little strange, and then pi? next to 193DB8 there are similar maps...
why? and why? then are 7 maps for each group and then ce n'? a slightly detached
to 1c2B7C start other 7 maps pi? a branch seem to have a greater? similar to the maps the pedal to which they are accustomed

advice??

[sportknight]

I found the torque limiters to the address 1D4734

[magi1984]

from 18666c in then ? correct, you have 9 maps of the accelerator pedal
also 193db8 in then ? correct, you have 9 maps of the accelerator pedal
also 1c2bac and then there are 9 maps of the accelerator pedal

[sportknight]

I'm sorry, but why? all those maps on a pedal, and what would have to change really

[munro]

there are different maps pedal for a matter of "choice" to the sw of the ecu to adapt in the best of ways a parameter according to the various differences of operation...
are all change...if you use the ecm,the sw,when you finish moddare the first you ask? to change the other maps"affini".....
some say it is to the sw this step, others will tell you to do the same mod "hand" map map...
the important thing is that the mod all....if you moddare maps related to the main ecm, I advise you to scroll in 2d and see if there are increases in exaggerated on these then ovviamentetu correct 2d....

[sportknight]

and,big problem :D
I don't have the driver then me I have to change all alone uff
vabb?,anyway, I maps the pedal,then continued with the torque limiter,then the limiters smoke,a bit of turbo surge and a bit of time,should be enough?

[munro]

no need to touch so many maps to take the car....
touch everything that you said but keep an eye out for "time"..
an advice, if you tap the advances...
remember that on the vw pd, and the advance has a double function.
the cio? in addition to advancing the starting point of the injection, increasing the advance will also increase the iq why? "open the injector for more time angular"....

[frantik3]

no need to touch so many maps to take the car....
touch everything that you said but keep an eye out for "time"..
an advice, if you tap the advances...
remember that on the vw pd, and the advance has a double function.
the cio? in addition to advancing the starting point of the injection, increasing the advance will also increase the iq why? "open the injector for more time angular"....


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with a very short range from fear, and if one knows what to tap zero smoke at the exhaust))))))))))))

[sportknight]

sorry,I'll make an example, I speak as a percentage why? are a neofilo,the amount? now, it seems to me the case to pull them out

I could make a 10% in the pi? on the map the pedal to more than 1500 rpm and 70% load
10% on the limiter fumes maf and map
20% on the torque limiter,10% seem to me to be too tight :D
and 0.1 bar of pressure in the pi? on the turbine (100 points)
a,I forgot,the car ? already defappata and without egr

my big question regarding the timing of the injection,a 5% should be enough no? always on the same range

[sportknight]

no need to touch so many maps to take the car....
touch everything that you said but keep an eye out for "time"..
an advice, if you tap the advances...
remember that on the vw pd, and the advance has a double function.
the cio? in addition to advancing the starting point of the injection, increasing the advance will also increase the iq why? "open the injector for more time angular"....

then on the injector pump in addition to anticipate the injected lengthens the time why? not the move? on the commonrail instead the move?
another thing,the rail remember that you cannot change so easily, why? the pressure ? date on the basis of rpm's,I remember something like that,you give me confirmation?

[munro]

on the CR the advance "translate" the injection before that if you have 850us time opening the injector and the advance to 20? before tdc anticipating duck, always 850us but starting at 22? then you're going to inettare before....
in the vag pd instead if you have the advance that, say, begins to inject at 19? before tdc..with the injector, which remains open for 28? in total you have 19? btdc and 9? after the pms you have 28? total...
if by 21? of advance the total duration will be? 30?.. because the injector will open 21? before tdc but close? always 9? degrees after tdc...

[sportknight]

ok,clear ;)

feel,to let go of this car you would act as I wrote in the previous page, and the cio?
10% pedal and fumes from the 70% load and 1500 rpm
turbo 0,1 an overboost original
limiter 20%
times 5%

the mechanic told me not to overdo it that they suffer from a little change

[magi1984]

with the torque limiter you'll go even at 30% over 3000rpm
on the turbo, you can also give 0.15

[sportknight]

Thanks guys, I'll put in the Work

[sportknight]

sorry guys,another thing,what are those other return bends(in this case 2) that are located immediately behind each map pedal? I ? seemed to see them both on the edc15 that on edc16 vw

[sportknight]

guys,the maps begin to 187544 and 3,have the bp that are torque and rpm,you should see three maps of the conversion right?
should change them?

[sportknight]

and after those seem to limit the diesel,but what are they? I have to change them?

[munro]

this car hold up so much, but lots of torque transmission...
the 5-speed holds a p? less torque of the 6 that ? truly indestructible....
in order to give more "resistance" to the 5-speed gearbox uses a specific oil and you have to see if the panel is sound insulation, lower air intake in the direction of the exchange because if he does not c'? l? should open one but for the rest I have seen golf V 105hp 5-speed brought to 180 hp,of course, not only the map,take a lot and do a lot of km.....
the first to break the exchange the first to give up if you overdo it with the mod and the flywheel...
for the maps if they are hard to give advice because everyone has to do as he sees fit....
for? a small point I want to give it to you....in this car without touching the pedal and the lim couple, acting on the map conversion and map lambda is an increase veeery good....
because for example the map nm>iq shows in the axes of rpm and nm while the descriptor (or z-axis, and the iq....the quantity? diesel....
ori e.g troverari to 250nm at 2000 rpm 35mg of diesel in the z-axis....
the ecu's? that by request of the foot pedal of those rides and the one pair you should give that diesel...
if you in this box, e.g. to change the iq from 35mg to 40mg,adapting the lim flue gas(lambda) is the ecu with 250 nm you will have to give 40mg instead of 35, and will try? the way to give you that diesel....
help you could give it to her, adjusting the openings, closures injectors....
the only downside of this mod and you have to calculate you everything because the ecu has more torque limitation...
or better c'? l? but it is varied and of course...
this ? in a way of a p? the most targeted because allows you to give diesel fuel precisely where you need them....
also the foot pedal and the lim pair you allow this thing of precision, but we have to work a lot more "in concert" with all the other maps....

[sportknight]

thanks munro,then you say you make maps of the conversion,the limiters smoke and a bit of turbo should already? suffice

[sportknight]

anyway, I don't really understand what are the maps of the injection times and those of the limiters fumes,which are the bp?

limiters fumes are in the air and spins right?
and the injection timing are rpm and quantity? injected right?or rpm and pressure diesel?

[sportknight]

all the maps after 1e4f40 should be injection times,I think

[munro]

thanks munro,then you say you make maps of the conversion,the limiters smoke and a bit of turbo should already? suffice
try not cost you anything...if you don't like the performance you can always do it in the classical way.*****and reported by you in your prescedenti post...
the silts fumes have rpm and air, or maf or map in the axes and the descriptor and the iq....
the time axes have the engine temperature and angular degrees of opening-closing of the injectors and in the z-axis you have the iq... ...

[sportknight]

then,I found the limiter map, but I noticed that the maf is not c',c'? a beautiful line pulled straight,is this possible???

[magi1984]

yes, in some cars, c'? in others it is not...it's not? because

[sportknight]

then,the maps that I have found are(starting from b.p.)

18666C pedal
193D38 pedal
1C2B7C pedal
1D4734 torque limiter
1D6492 limiter map
1EAF3E turbo and limiters
1911BC turbo and limiters
1D729E conversion pair

I have difficulties to find the time of injection, and to understand the maps 187614 et similar to what they are for..

you can give me a hand?

[sportknight]

the map conversion ? only one right?

[munro]

the map conversion ? only one right?
you map nm>iq ? only a....

[sportknight]

so there we are,I lack only the time only that they are different from all the other maps that I have seen, why? this has the dpf

[sportknight]

no one? anyway, tomorrow we'll place the 2 maps that I made,one with the classic method and the other method suggeritomi let's see what comes out,but please,give me the christmas gift,please help me with these injection times :D

[sportknight]

then,attached 2 units changed

step1 ? the traditional method,step 2 ? the method with the map conversion

there are more and the time of injection but I sail on the high seas for those :(

[sportknight]

so guys,the gifts are not arrived and I got to do
I found the times,there are three maps after the map at the address 1D697A
now could someone explain more? or less also making me think how should I change the timing??
also you could check if the maps I listed above are ok?

I believe I have given a nice hand to this community by listing all the maps :)

[sportknight]

now I do speeches alone hahaha vabb? so I know that someone could serve more? next
the times are 4 maps in succession
the first should be a recovery why? brings the temperature to 100, and then when the temperature exceeds 100, the control unit lowers the time...
the other 3 I have changed from 1500 rpm for 5% on all 3 in the same way..
for calcolarmi 1500 rpm since they are very irregular, I calculated the curve of the 1500 on the map of the recovery and the distance to the end of the map, I calculated the area that interested me

I believe that the ecu now ? complete,put my 2 changes,using the map conversion and the other is via the traditional method

[sportknight]

sorry,I don't have the driver, but elsewhere I have seen that, in addition to those times there are others...but how many maps of the time, we are, and why? cos? many?
also 1e4f40 should start other maps of the time, or am I wrong??

[sportknight]

mistake,I believe, are advances

anyway, here are the edited maps

[sportknight]

hwm,by the boys,at least to tell me if I made a load of crap :P

[munro]

https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?1567-chi-mi-spiega-come-moddare-le-duration-map-di-un-tdi-vag-pd
to date, no response to confirmation.....
I believe that it is a p? as the secret of pulcinella.....
we all know so well? but the affected person don't s? nothing...

[sportknight]

we're evil :D

[sportknight]

be but according to you, the rest of the maps, com'??

I the times I have seen them change so? on the other downloaded maps so I don't know..

[munro]

as is said by the gurus at that discussion, we must not think as for the common rail engine where the duration of the injector open ? in microseconds, and the advance ? only the point where it starts this time...
here we need to think in degrees of rotation of the engine...
that's why you find a lot of maps with engine temperature, and degrees of motor rotation, which are the duration in which the inettore remains open.......
you can also find a lot of maps that look and are advances...
but as you accenavo this parameter in the vw pd has a double function....
so if you don't have confirmations from the big-you can safely abandon the idea of moddare these maps...
finally..the fact that you can find the file with the changes made in a certain way does not mean that you are necessarily right....
if what has moddato the file knows how to or less than we do in the field....
the file moddato from them, it's fine for just do not understand one eel marinated...
since there capicono the same even their...
in summary what I want to say ?:a better understanding and know only what is st? doing...
instead of following like sheep to the flock!!!

[sportknight]

and I know how to put back the original times and I do give the ecu what it can give...considering that ? a edc16 and should give up 83mg while actually? from the map conversion the maximum that he asks for ? seventy...I think only the map conversion if you can give more? what is necessary,don't you think?

[sportknight]

sorry, but the duration map are the times of injection?

[munro]

according to this calculation 1,5*4*75=450nm 450*4000(rpm)/7121=252cv..
virtually with 75mg of diesel you should have 252cv and 450nm of torque....
if you can inject 83mg...you=1,5*4(since the engine and a 4-cylinder)*83(iq)=498nm.. 498*4000(rpm)/7121=279cv...
if you really really want to get atanto with a tdi 105???

[sportknight]

hahaha,of course not,but calcolavo that without going to the trouble times with the limiters already? set to 83mg increasing demand from the pedal already? you would get beautiful cavallini,don't you think?

[munro]

ori thing injects this car??under a 50ina milligrams of diesel??
however, this car with little to be really strong....

[sportknight]

just to see what he had to do my friend to remove the dpf already? me is the nausea

[sportknight]

let me understand one thing,the duration map are the times of injection? and what about accuracy? those that have as bp, temperature, and angular degrees or those pi? next, the formats of about a dozen maps? with bp up to 5000 a and 5500 the other?

[munro]

the maps of the time..that you call injection times...are composed of maps soi(start of injection) also known as "anticipate", and from the maps eoi(end of injection), or maps of duration....imagine the injector pump,more specifically, the control solenoid on it,such as a syringe....the injector,on the contrary it is better to say the solenoid,to bring a certain iq of diesel opens the circuit to the low pressure inside of the head as a function of degrees of rotation of the motor and its temperature.....
the same what the f? with the closing of the solenoid that f? to drain a certain part of the iq "forfeited" inside....
then, the ecu determines the cylinder pre cylinder on the basis of temperature and degrees rotation as injected by opening and closing the chambers of the high pressure of the pump-injector....around here, nothing earth-shattering....
the cosaun p? more difficult to understand st? in the fact that as I said the advance has the dual function of....
and the duration move all the diesel fuel that from ever after since the manufacturer established in terms of the end of injection (eoi)
then the real secret st? in the know right where to go with the increase in the number of degrees of advance-duration of injection to be going strong these engines.....
think that on the pd 150 and 160 tdi the golf4-leon-ibiza by touching these maps with cognition of cause you can exceed the 220 hp in the full reliability? for all the mechanical components....

[sportknight]

files final,I think,give it a look??

[tezzero]

Sorry...I appreciate and share all strategic calculations regarding the mapping of this golf 105..but if you do not want to lose so much time just increase by the same percentage as all of the maps except for the turbo which of course should be increased with caution..

[munro]

I prefer to make me two fast calculations to have a reference on what or not I should do instead of giving increments to the assembly line without knowing what actually st? doing......
you know tezzero the numbers they give me a certain security....
could? look like a p? schizzofrenico but I prefer a "schizophrenia rational" to the monotonous madness of things all the same...

[sportknight]

vabb?,c'? consider also that in the post ? cos? long why? not knew at all the maps, and as I discovered and wrote,that some doubt remains still,someone could give me a controlled?

[sportknight]

the map inserted.the car is fine :)
I only changed to the pi? compared to the last attached to the 3 maps of the times

[munro]

which you have loaded? the traditional dw and lim moddati or the one with the single conversion map moddata??

[sportknight]

daughter I tried them both, to tell the truth,was in a very similar way,a little less than that with the maps of the conversion

[munro]

but now turns with the traditional map, then??

[sportknight]

yes,now runs with the standard

[Chris156]

but can that still falls into these errors? what will change if you change the maps elaboratrici torque or the conversion ?

hey...how many degrees more you have given injection?

[sportknight]

I'll be wrong and I something why? the logic ? pi? that is right,only that I didn't have much way to prove why? my friend ? party,so I gave 120 points as consigliatomi,are almost 3 degrees to the 3 duration maps and the 5 maps that come later and indicated they, too, as a duration
by the way,the 3 are the soi and the second eoi? or what?

[munro]

the soi in the edc 15-16 of the vag group are 9-10...the duration or eoi are 4...and siceramentesta what happens?....evidently for? I think that as there is a selection map soi based on the temp the engine there is also a map selection eoi that combines these 13-14 maps between them...sure it makes things complicated....

[sportknight]

then the eoi are the ones before and the soi are the ones after? boooo I'm confusing the issue even more?

but we can not open the map and give the address in common?

[sportknight]

[magi1984]

that map you put at the end?

[sportknight]

the one with the standard mode,if it comes back, I try to convince him to put the other to try

[Batch]

hello sportknight!
you could give me a help to map the ecu of my golf?thanks

[sportknight]

I have made other more? or less in a similar way and they are all good,the only doubt I have ?

these cars are limited to 200??

someone knows where is the limiter?

[munro]

I have made other more? or less in a similar way and they are all good,the only doubt I have ?
these cars are limited to 200??

someone knows where is the limiter?

there are those said to be in the e2p....
who says that you can do by reading flash...
certain ? that I would like to know something more too...

[sportknight]

I'll post the area as soon as possible :)

[sportknight]

here's the edit....
anyway ecusafe the change well

[munro]

ok, thanks a lot for the info sportknight...

[sportknight]

I figured ;)

[ago27]

sorry can you explain to me what the center ecusafe with the speed??????????

[ugoboss]

sorry can you explain to me what the center ecusafe with the speed??????????

ecusafe has for some cars also the correction of the speed limiter, you upload the file, and during the machining process asks you if you want to change, by letting you see the current limit.

[sportknight]

sorry can you explain to me what the center ecusafe with the speed??????????


have you tried to open the file ecusafe? :D