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Guys I have a meriva 2012 in a workshop with ecu bosch edc17 which ? been mapped by me with a cock the clone.
I write the map all ok read and written without prb.
the customer is happy with the car .
the following day, I kiama that the car nn +.
why ?
no connection with the diagniosi.
try again in bootmode no contact with the ecu error boot.
why?
then start to take info about it.
I feel that the clone nn you can? do if nn with a new processor written on the bench.
then kiedo if you know how to do x to resume it.
or other solutions.
aspect of your news...........
That I know,
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msport (exil77grande)
20-12-2012, 18:32
bad story,then you have a backup right?
I think it is for? that cloning is a different story.
From that s? I, at present on the edc17 reads everything except the area codes.
This is why, good or bad ? difficult to do damage
ask bogdans, magicmotorsport, in palermo, I believe he can help you...
bogdans?
do you have a cell number?
I, for one? I don't understand.... if the machine ? left in the bike, how ? can that part the most so out of the blue? I want to understand when responding to a wrong writing, but if the car ? match the scripture ? all went well.
someone has an explanation about this?
bogdans?
do you have a cell number?
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this I found; I think he had a cell.......
grz anyway
in the morning the same.......
magi1984
20-12-2012, 20:41
also, for me, the work of mapping has nothing to do, otherwise it would be blocked immediately.
as I have told you ? the antituning.
x? the cock nn corrects well the cksum here is the xch?.
now they are out of new protocols that eliminate this prb
magi1984
20-12-2012, 21:25
if the cks not ? correct well the car is not starting from the very first start, I have tested it on a edc15, let alone in the edc17
nn always
it may happen that v? in motion and then nn +.
the address that you have tested on the eedc15 nn means anything about..
this having codes, otp, and the frame number in the processor pu? happen that part and when you realize that nn ? correct the file v? in the block.
or the rooster in writing has deteriorated something and how ? warmed up the ecu ? over burn-in.
and nn +.
in boot mode, I would have had to write to the file ori instead I can + connect.
so I think you both detereriorato the processor.
now I'm informing you where and how to take these processors, you can rewrite to tour with the programmer.
equipment station infrared programmer to tour x tricore processors and a buuon contact x processors virgins.
a lot of patience and precision(these I miss yesterday I wanted to throw down? the cock and give fire to the ecu).
moral of the story x restore everything I have or riscriver the micro on a virgin since I have backup.
or new ecu at the dealer $ 1000 for the ecu + 300€ configuration
or mount another ecu with body kiave and immo.
hopefully I find it.
listen to matd82, I still am not convinced of the thing! if the writing was not correct in the boot definitely would have taken to putting the case that the ecu realizes that the code frame is not equal!
for the fact that the cock you burned the processor I think not, otherwise I had not even written!
I don't know I don't know..... but something else c'
Try to write it with gallo gold!!!
I have to find someone from my part of the usa, the cock ori.
nn I know but I'm looking for way over the phone.
listen to matd82, I still am not convinced of the thing! if the writing was not correct in the boot definitely would have taken to putting the case that the ecu realizes that the code frame is not equal!
for the fact that the cock you burned the processor I think not, otherwise I had not even written!
I don't know I don't know..... but something else c'?!
in fact, the cock nn he burned but deteriorated then when I put in the bike ? heated and ? fo..ttuta of the whole.
anyway, even if I have to buy it new so I'll try more possible causes....
use it as a guinea pig.
maybe the connect mpps ? works with the protocol of the 126 abarth.
(sorry for the crap, but I have to play down)
msport (exil77grande)
20-12-2012, 22:19
this I found; I think he had a cell.......
grz anyway
in the morning the same.......
tell them that call on the part of the professionalchiptuning.
tell them that call on the part of the professionalchiptuning.
certainly in the morning the kiamo and I feel that I says.
anyway, from what I've read and heard around me say that it is almost impossible to clone it.
but to find a ecu the same in demolition kit immo and pawl pu? work.
if instead I find a in demolition, so I can write with cock ori xch? the file ori I read it before they merged.
even if I write another outlet in demolition, you do not write the data of the key.
Have you heard Magicmotorsport?
If nn writes the data to the otp are collapsed,
Someone nearby that has the cock ori?
Or other instrumentation?
has reason coma..nn write the data of the key. see what they tell you in Magicmotorsport at least make an attempt. otherwise, let's see who has a cock ori x give you a hand. oh I forgot, have you spoken with our administrators? maybe some x board?
azzmi diapice a lot of x what happened!! then the guilt and attribuilre the rooster clone?
The guilt and my I knew that there are protocols up to date, but I checked.
That mange! What are you experiencing ? the situation that pi? it terrifies me: that's why? I have so much stressed with the Duchy...
I am very sorry! I hope you will be able to resolve quickly with the least effort and expense.
unfortunately, you have to consider that sometimes it's not going straight.
M? ? happened a few times, and s? what does it say!!!
According to m?, entrusted to Magicmotorsport that you can save time and money.
msport (exil77grande)
21-12-2012, 14:41
That mange! What are you experiencing ? the situation that pi? it terrifies me: that's why? I have so much stressed with the Duchy...
I am very sorry! I hope you will be able to resolve quickly with the least effort and expense.
the thing is very different because the duchy and' edc16 and put in motion with the file the motion to say while this is a edc17.
matthew let me understand, but st? the control unit as lai read written in serial or in bdm with the rooster clone??
I ask because if I can have my say..I have never heard of the ecu whatever they may be that you can burn to a reprogramming...
especially because you talk about the ecu that heats or burns out??but are you sure that the block of the ecu to be due from you???
not ? that in some way have sovvracaricato the ecu?? that's? with a booster, or maybe with a bridge cables, perhaps inadvertently reversing the polarit??
I'll give you all the st? questions why? ? something veeery strange...never heard that one before...if it was a problem of cks or antituning the car you do not hop on the bike even if you abbracciavi with the lady...but just finished reprogramming...
matthew let me understand, but st? the control unit as lai read written in serial or in bdm with the rooster clone??
I ask because if I can have my say..I have never heard of the ecu whatever they may be that you can burn to a reprogramming...
especially because you talk about the ecu that heats or burns out??but are you sure that the block of the ecu to be due from you???
not ? that in some way have sovvracaricato the ecu?? that's? with a booster, or maybe with a bridge cables, perhaps inadvertently reversing the polarit??
I'll give you all the st? questions why? ? something veeery strange...never heard that one before...if it was a problem of cks or antituning the car you do not hop on the bike even if you abbracciavi with the lady...but just finished reprogramming...
also, according to me, and just what you say..if there was a write error or cks wrong with the car not started already from the first boot...
I remain of the idea I that the problem was not the riprogramazione.
guys I am informed by experts in the field edc17.
the only thing to do ? try conn x17 and see s ela resumed in the boot.
the discorsso of the cksum ? a prb of the cock.
? already happened to a different thing but none ? humble by spubblicarlo unlike my.
anyway, Monday I boot with the x17 ori.
and we see
.
I have the kiama bogdans but the secretary told me that he was busy and I would rikiamato (I'm still waiting for).
I hope for the best.......
the speech of the departures trust that ? as I say the antituning f? sti skerzi.
[QUOTE=matd82;19533]guys I am informed by experts in the field edc17.
the only thing to do ? try conn x17 and see s ela resumed in the boot.
the discorsso of the cksum ? a prb of the cock.
? already happened to a different thing but none ? humble by spubblicarlo unlike my.
anyway, Monday I boot with the x17 ori.
and we see
hello matd82 I have the f.g. golds I am near salerno if you can affect .anyway, from my documents, I can confirm that the antituning or password if the centraliane it ? features,you had to give already error download the connection in the boot already read ,and then sn agree with all of that to me ? happened to me in a ecu that the car wrong the cks is not the first boot....................................
I heard through the grapevine that some of the ecu to the thirtieth time nn start + sar? true, anyway I do? a walk in terrasini, who is from palermo, 20 km to the headquarters of the magicmotosport I want to understand if ? true.
giarras according to you, what can? to be successful with this edc17????after mapped the car is all right and dil day after so point blank, the ecu stops??
msport (exil77grande)
22-12-2012, 10:27
giarras according to you, what can? to be successful with this edc17????after mapped the car is all right and dil day after so point blank, the ecu stops??
honestly, I think it's little it can be proved that,if they had to give problems gave them now and not the day after,I not I would have taken this responsibility.
guidotacco
22-12-2012, 13:04
according to me ? in the opening pu? something happen,type the welds of the microprocessor and with the temperature changes the day after ? game,hain tried to cool it or heat it?
frantik3
22-12-2012, 16:54
definitely a problem cecksum of the clone, if you need I have the originae and I'm in taranto up to 28!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Today I try with kess ori bdm and see ..
Thanks x for the offers of help. ......
guidotacco
22-12-2012, 17:31
definitely a problem cecksum of the clone, if you need I have the originae and I'm in taranto until the 28!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!yes, but the day after?strange...
frantik3
22-12-2012, 17:50
The day after, back in Liguria
nothing to do with the kess ori.........
overheat the processor.
nn just rests the bdm on your sideburns, you can overheat the micro........
and as if it were in short if you overheat the micro.....
and the ecu is not v? absolutely in short-if you f? a mapping...
sure as death.....
can have all the wrong data entered or the more advanced antituning..you must not overheat just because you want to read in the bdm...
and it's a clear sign that the motherboard ? in short, for a reason not depended absolutely remapping....
investigates the better...I ask the propetiario or to the workshop what they did...
frantik3
22-12-2012, 22:57
It can also be due to a wrong opening
matthew let me understand, but st? the control unit as lai read written in serial or in bdm with the rooster clone??
I ask because if I can have my say..I have never heard of the ecu whatever they may be that you can burn to a reprogramming...
especially because you talk about the ecu that heats or burns out??but are you sure that the block of the ecu to be due from you???
not ? that in some way have sovvracaricato the ecu?? that's? with a booster, or maybe with a bridge cables, perhaps inadvertently reversing the polarit??
I'll give you all the st? questions why? ? something veeery strange...never heard that one before...if it was a problem of cks or antituning the car you do not hop on the bike even if you abbracciavi with the lady...but just finished reprogramming...
Quote, and what I wanted to say it too!
mat but that machine ?? I edc 17 to the ground c'? I
it seems to me that ? an opel meriva 2012? matd82 does not say the version...I think it's a 2.0 cdti...
from what I understand it should be a meriva 95cv, I think 1300cc
I have never seen a edc 17 1.3! however, expect him which confirms to us
I am attaching the screen of the kessV2 where do you see that the meriva 1300 mount edc17
we believe that the manta ray! I still I have to catch a
the grain for? the 1300 I don't think the mountains are a edc17..does not fit a marelli mjd8?
opss.... sorry I had not seen jpeg....chicco.....very strange for?...
I thought that was the 1.3 fiat mount, only marelli....
frantik3
24-12-2012, 00:38
yes, but and 1.3 mjet fiat but with ecu bosch edc17 , as the first 1300 were not marelli mjet fiat lancia but marelli mjet opel suzuki
frantik3
24-12-2012, 00:47
the cock ori is the ECU EDC17 C18 - TC1766 Internal Flash but not 19 !!!!!!!!!!!!
I have the kess ori and the directions for putting in the boot, the meriva edc17c19 are equal to the pdf of the rooster opel edc17 micro 1792, maybe that's the problem ? in the chk, pu? be what if not ? correct allows only a certain number of start-ups?
then that ke I realized after this experience, and that the software that you or I of the rooster clone edit the cksum in the otp area.
then the version was updated with a prg toolpass that corrects the cksum in the correct way, without touching the areas otp Antituning.
x? the prb remains that nn makes me write to the file ori x?
after a p? I was able to understand the xch?.
that is, when the write areas otp d 3 starts then v in the block, the micro.
x? the file ori should put affixed the situation.
so my prb remains that I can't connect with the ecu, not even in boot mode and bdm.
practically in the refitting of the ecu, the owner of the off caused damage to the hardware of the ecu after 3 starts ? went to the block.
having damaged hardware nn I connect xch? when I try the ecu on the bench the ecu ? in short.
nn I think a software is able to put an ecu in short.
then the**** workshops if the v? to take in that place,x, nn ? absolutely my fault of what happened.
I found the ecu opened up to my first meeting after having written the rikiusa him.
x personal reasons nn was at foggia, in those days, so he's in a panic ? addressed to a colleague who had the rooster always clone.
and ? l? that combined mess when they reopened.
when I returned to nn are more? managed to connect with the ecu, and l? ? started the ordeal with trial and error to figure.
this ? everything that do you think?
I wish you all a happy christmas............
guidotacco
24-12-2012, 13:43
I think that it is only a hardware problem!due to the cock, but to the opening of the procedure wrong
I think as I have also always said that you can accolarti responsibility? that were not your....
however, when succedeno these things ? a p? torn..
because you want to solve the problem to make a fine figure, we say...
but then on the other hand you think that ? not even fair to pay for the sins of others....
to which the guy in the workshop that made the mess now if he sees him, and the month of December....
explode82
24-12-2012, 17:53
beautiful mange,but from what I read I believe I have done quite a damage to close it,and still the cock ori the doing this and c'? in the pdf edc17c19
how did that go ?? have you solved it??. have you tried to redo it with another serial, maybe the official?? from what I know the edc17 you clone . but if you find another ecu you can try to only write the eeprom .
and stranno that the machine after it comes out on the bike nn +nn, and that has to put someone else's hand??
let us know interesting topic.
But in practice there are problems to do these ecu with the rooster clone for issues to chk if I got it wrong, or am I wrong?
I tried with the kess ori bdm
nothing to do with the processor ? gone.
I can find an ecu identical in the network.
someone?
the prb and that you have burned nn ? the fault of the rooster, but the fault of the ki kiusa.
the prb that n nparte depends on the cksum going to touch on the areas otp.
while the new software of the cock 50 clone has the function toolpass.
s nn? exactly what it is but nn lock ecu.
anyway in the boot with official tools recovers.
now let's wait for opel that sends the bill to the house.............
if someone has an ecu ground can? contact me kindly.
I tried with the kess ori bdm
nothing to do with the processor ? gone.
I can find an ecu identical in the network.
someone?
the prb and that you have burned nn ? the fault of the rooster, but the fault of the ki kiusa.
the prb that n nparte depends on the cksum going to touch on the areas otp.
while the new software of the cock 50 clone has the function toolpass.
s nn? exactly what it is but nn lock ecu.
anyway in the boot with official tools recovers.
now let's wait for opel that sends the bill to the house.............
if someone has an ecu ground can? contact me kindly.
If you can affect I the k-tag official
But what he did has ended badly the tab between the two covers?And not ? the problem of start-up and communication is the same thing, cke the problem is not the programming but the card broken?In diagnosis we will enter it?
I'm in Rome , I have the cock ori if you need a hand no problem.
fabioefra44
30-12-2012, 23:20
as I have told you ? the antituning.
x? the cock nn corrects well the cksum here is the xch?.
now they are out of new protocols that eliminate this prb
The beauty of the antituning ? the checksum......it seems strange but ? just cos?,the car may? go but to the successive starts can? present the problem,in fact if you look at good maps of some edc17,are to enter areas of the checksum in the middle of the map management major
fabioefra44
30-12-2012, 23:28
nothing to do with the kess ori.........
overheat the processor.
nn just rests the bdm on your sideburns, you can overheat the micro........
Bdm?.. You want to say in the boot!
fabioefra44
30-12-2012, 23:32
the grain for? the 1300 I don't think the mountains are a edc17..does not fit a marelli mjd8?
The mounts and how!
Edc17c19 processor 1792.......great product,similar to the ecu sister at the OPEL INSIGNA ,with the processor, 1796
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