convetrire a edc15-16 or a marelli mjd6f in "stand-alone"

[munro]

and can do such a thing with these ecu's??
seeking info...
thanks...

[munro]

it seems to me that you have not asked for the route with the exact angle of reentry into the atmosphere of the space shuttle on reentry from earth orbit???
translated: I think that it is not so difficult question...or ? started the festival of indifference ? I didn't realize it??

[msport (exil77grande)]

hahahah and viva festival munro certain that you crchi all eh? however, I do not think it is feasible that you say this.

[munro]

the discourse ? this msport: if I take, say, a complete motor with all the wiring and all the sensors needed to make it work with the ecu its dedicated...chess? bmw 330d e46 for example ..and I would like different in a bmw E30, it would be possible to do it without having to go crazy with the can bus,immo,the dial,the signals abs etc and make the motor to run independently without a lot of "gizmos" not useful at all or as if it were on a dyno???
in short, to make the ecu in a "stand-alone"? removing the first and immo can line?

[msport (exil77grande)]

I have never done such a thing, but from my point of view I don't think it can be possible otherwise there would be no ecu fully programmable and cost-absurd.

[munro]

for? msport on a lot of the ecu to the immo-off total already you can? to do for a long time,.....then the scab, the most coarse of the code is removed at the root, right??
then you should see if you could "put off" the can line of the ecu with, for example, the dial, or the abs-asr...e.g....I think it's feasible..certainly not easy, but I think doable..or not??

[msport (exil77grande)]

to this question I can not answer you, but I think it is here the achilles heel.

[munro]

in that sense achilles heel msport??not ? cos? as easy as I think???

[bart]

Hello munro, I'm sorry, but I don't really understand...
Would staying in a motor, its special wiring and sensors and make it work outside of the machine ? been mounted? In practice, how to put it over the counter without then the remaining ecus of the car?
In this case I think that the thing is feasible! Well pi? complicated, however, if you wanted to mount it on other cars and pretendessi to make everything work via can...

[munro]

Hello munro, I'm sorry, but I don't really understand...
Would staying in a motor, its special wiring and sensors and make it work outside of the machine ? been mounted? In practice, how to put it over the counter without then the remaining ecus of the car?
In this case I think that the thing is feasible! Well pi? complicated, however, if you wanted to mount it on other cars and pretendessi to make everything work via can...
you understand......
run the engine out of his car on the source or on the bench or in another car without all the control units that serve not only the functioning of the same...

[rego88]

I believe that the thing is not difficult.... just connect everything.... make a immo off and the car part.... the test is made with a edc16c39 for a alfa gt racing.... ? all unplugged, and it's good.... logiicamente if you enter the diagnosis of any error you will surely find..... but no vain recovery

[bart]

I believe that the thing is not difficult.... just connect everything.... make a immo off and the car part.... the test is made with a edc16c39 for a alfa gt racing.... ? all unplugged, and it's good.... logiicamente if you enter the diagnosis of any error you will surely find..... but no vain recovery

[munro]

I believe that the thing is not difficult.... just connect everything.... make a immo off and the car part.... the test is made with a edc16c39 for a alfa gt racing.... ? all unplugged, and it's good.... logiicamente if you enter the diagnosis of any error you will surely find..... but no vain recovery
a question for? me is spontaneous...and not to take the "bastion contrary," but mainly for thinking about it with you....
for the speech immo ok....but I was wondering with regard to the signal of the km/h that the ecu receives from the dial or from the abs that I think I need the ecu to establish a basis for the turns ratio engaged, in order to adapt the torque ratio to ratio..***** and the metttiamo?? the cio? what happens if the ecu gets that signal from the outside, so to say??

[munro]

I forgot..rego88, can you give some more info on the alfa GT race in question?? the cio? if I wanted to mount the engine on this car eg.. on a point 176 first in a series of what I would need as components essential??

[chicco]

according to me if the ecu does not receive certain types of signals pu? use a default value, for example on the ecu race use if you break the sensor th20 the value I do go to the default 80?, the problem can? to be that if the ecu controls the fan this is not part seeing the temperature to 80? then you use also
a bulb ext.With regards to the can lines you can? use a canrouter, I use them for example, if a customer on a race car wants to replace the ecu and not the display, I take the data from the ecu and then send them to the addresses can that it works with the display, you can create tables of linearization, and you can also take
of the linear signals(in volts) to characterize a curve and send them to the addresses can, with these modules, I take off often the hook.

[munro]

really very very interesting...the grain thank you for your condivision of info....I wanted to ask you for?... in the case I wanted to use a canrouter to simulate the speed of the vehicle in the ecu for the speech that I did a few posts ago, how would you do that??

[giarras]

I think that the mechanics and electronics is a science and not a fantascenza..all you can do, in fact, there are places where both mechanical and electronic sperimentele it takes time and a lot of money and good knowledge..munro it will seem strange, but just a guy who lives in your part of has done something like this and no if I remember correctly ? of leporano

[giarras]

and I grain since? what he said ? really feasible.

[chicco]

well, first of all, you need to use a can sniffer that is used to read and record the data running on the can, then you have to locate the addresses of the 4 speed?, understand how they are put on the scale(a value which scales kmh and bit type 1bit= 1kmh) and at this point, since the canrouter there are also digital inputs(to use magnetic sensors or hall-effect) as well as analog connect the 4 wheel sensors 4 digital inputs, you create the mass-scale, and you send data on the can line.On the Ecu competition use, for example, I also can line configured to read data from Bosch ABS, cos? can I use the signals from the wheel for
do traction control without having to remove the ABS or divide the sensors, even why? the ABS begins to be used also in the race where you can?, so much so that Bosch
he did an ABS motorsport fully programmable over that Ecu EDC16 motorsport also fully configurable.

[munro]

giarras mechanically speaking, not c'? nothing that scares me...in my part, I was one of the first to mount an engine vag tdi 1z with a mechanical pump of the chroma id in a caddy dell 86 more than 15 years f? or you can mount the sofim 2.8 tdi in the chroma-thema 2.5 td I fit the 1.9 td type granturismo in a One to let it become a missile from 230 to now...or in the same car to mount the engine and transmission of the thema turbo ie and adapt to change several of the various gears, or the various media of the motor frame to make it fit inside...or even before that with my first car a 127 on which after 2 months of work adattai and managed to calibrate the 4carburatori mikuni 38 of the suzuki gsx 1100, to name a few of the mod here....my limitation at the moment ? the electronic part....

[munro]

the grain but we put the case that the car on which you mount the ecu that manages the engine on his car source need can of speed? while on the first car object, the signal abs or a can of any kind does not exist.***** and it has a distinct effect??

[chicco]

in the case that the control unit that you're mounting in need of signals or messages can that the car on which is to be mounted is not allowed? provide, can you? always try to identify the signals or values that you want to the ecu, and then there are the interfaces where you program the messages to send, and connect you to the
can line, these modules are run on the line, can the messages you need to the ecu to work without recovery, attention easy to say, but pi? complicated
to be implemented, I have done the nights just to make the agreement a display that worked with a kind of ecu with another ecu*****s, these modules are also used on the race cars with the steering column electric in need of a can message to work, when you change the ecu if the latter is not ? configured to
send the message you can use this gimmick.

[munro]

but how do you know the grain!!!! you are a great....I know that we have to make a nice chiaccheriata as before.....

[admin]

According to me, all you can do, and only a question of money, some time ago I made a change to transplant the engine and lettronico
you list some
tuingo 1.1 replaced with the engine of the renault 5gt turbo and dustria l e lectronics of the lancia delta integrale
clio 1.8 supercharged engine electronic sierra cosworth
point 1.1, replaced motor rhythm 130 abarth
opel corsa 1.6 substitute with engine kadet 140cv
fiat new600 1.1 supercharged with electronic cosworth
bora 110cv replaced with the engine in passat 2.0 140cvedc16 and used electronics edc15 golf 115hp qestultimo to put in motion I lost almost all the hair
ford cobra replica 1.4 transplanted engine ford scorpio 2.9
opel corsa 1.2 transplanted engine clio 1.8
etc.. etc..
I think that if you have the passion as me, and a bit of experience in the mechanical and electronics don't limit except that of money unfortunately this kind of elabborazione
our parts are not understood and consequently paid little

[munro]

dear admin do not ? to make a competition to see who c'? the longer...for charity? me, I would be nothing in his pocket but I the hair I lost them all when I was 19..three years before I did the work of the adaptation of the mikuni 38 on the 127...then had the engine 112 70hp plus 1050cc....nice mostricciattolo for the times..sin for? I opened the hood with the wire because he had broken the cable opening...and there was no desire to replace it....not s? if you framed the type..those were the days in which I experimented a lot with the mechanics a lot more than now...I remember the golf gti the 1st series of a friend with mechanical fuel injection on which we built for the game, the volume of fiat 131 volumex in a whole night of work.....good times...to adapt the benza I remember I recovered fuel pump and injectors from a mercedes 560sec.....he became a monster, but he drank like a dinosaur...the gas station became the godfather of my friend saw the frequent visits to the sound of cinquantamilalire at a time.....

[rego88]

for example, I was doing the tests.... the gt was originally mounted on a edc16c8.... now we have assembled a edc16c39, but it all works perfectly, few mistakes here and there, but ? logical.... there are still missing pieces xk? not ? over, but, for example, the tacho works regularly!!! and what ? on line can!!!