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cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 11:41
Hi guys I want to inagurare this section with a file of a me7.5 c'? someone who has experience in the matter who wants to deepen the study of this ecu?, I would like to make a map balanced and safe, and not too much boost...you accept the advice..
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cattivik
29-06-2012, 12:44
ciccio l' I did while I was eating (a sandwich) checks to see if you need to edit some map related... let me know then

cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 13:09
I can not download it

cattivik
29-06-2012, 13:39
ah gi?... from the other 15 msg and you'll unlock :-)

cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 13:42
you are able to download the file golds that I posted I?

cattivik
29-06-2012, 13:54
no I had in the bank data...

cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 13:56
vabb? given that I do not see the file you tell me which maps you touched? with the turbo as you did?

cattivik
29-06-2012, 13:58
I just tied the prex turbo working on the stable,a bit of advance limiters of speed? and rev limiters to 7500

cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 14:00
the management of the turbo in the petrol car ? completely different from the one diesel I understand that there are different managers, one for the peak pressure and one for the stable, I have studied a p? the damos to derive the various conversion factors...honestly don't even wish to touch on those maps...I have to deepen better the logic of these ecu..

cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 14:02
a p? of benza not take it?...there are also maps of the throttle valve and the load on the engine if I'm not mistaken...it seems to me that these ecu's use a mathematical logic that is based on limitations and conversions...? not being able to try ? hard...gi? you have made any of these cars?

cattivik
29-06-2012, 14:08
quiet, I have accumulated a lot of experience on these tpologie of the car, and then being a turbinista :-) the gasoline to the date, but only where you need it, otherwise I salt. pay attention to pop off the ball on this car that tends to break very often! anyway, of the l? an optimization of the software you may intervene on the hardware cn small targeted interventions are low cost! go on German ebay and you'll find offers that include valve, n75 race, which then would be left of the old RS4 biturbo and the by-pass valve of the pop. then you could change the APS with one 051c derivation of the tdi 130/150 hp that would result in a stable pressure over the 5400 rpm in addition to inalzarti the threshold of the limiter prex turbo and therefore the turbo pressure innalzer? some 0,1-0,2 bar

cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 14:11
I like your idea.. but for now I just wanted to make the map look forward to being able to see your file...with tools such as the read and write?

cattivik
29-06-2012, 14:15
mpps,magpro2,genius had taken a galletto v2 clone, but I got one instead :-), for the modification and the study of ecm 6.3, ecm titanium, map3d 2007, wingal... you?

msport (exil77grande)
29-06-2012, 15:19
however, I confirm that on the benz, the less you touch, the better' otherwise you may go in the wrong way,already touching a little bit of gasoline,turbo pressure and a bit of advance we have then the rest of you do it, starting from the proof of that base.

cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 15:33
mpps and magpro2...for the study a p? ...

cattivik
29-06-2012, 15:42
understood... but magpro2 clone?

cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 15:44
all clone

cattivik
29-06-2012, 15:46
understood... if you could ? the suitable section of I nn so I have confidence in the magpro clone I use x car type peugeot,citroen,renault,but the big one I do so with the mpps

cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 15:56
dear boys and girls I agree to? I always have the doubt of how to change the turbo and now the maps that I have located are two 12b6e - 12a6e now the first for me controls the geometry then ? a an overboost the second ? immediately after should be the pressure as a function of something...I start from the fact that I drivers I don't trust you...watching the damos I have obtained the conversion factor for? the data in the table while you it is not me d? a pressure plausible...you that the method used to change the turbo?...another doubt ? on 14f35 should be a map correction that determines the amount? of the injected fuel as a function of the air intake maf...for academic training, I studied that as soon as the turbo pressure loads for good should postpone the injection to avoid detonation, and...let's say you are a p? confused on some aspects...unfortunately for the character if I do not understand I do not attempt dangerous adventures...

cattivik
29-06-2012, 19:10
14f35 = split injection

cicciogsr
29-06-2012, 21:40
ok good ...I always escapes the logic of the turbo on how to mod...I see go into the matter

cattivik
30-06-2012, 01:59
on this type of car, the logic of the turbo nn you have to look for it! keep'altino seen that the N75 on these cars are lazy

cicciogsr
30-06-2012, 09:35
ok thanks for the advice

gfr
04-07-2012, 21:21
I also tell you I my me: and an overboost which is to change the map and know it just fine where you can' push you which companies? good on the road?

cicciogsr
04-07-2012, 21:49
that ? the an overboost I am convinced of it as well I do ..the problem ? understand how much to give

gfr
04-07-2012, 22:26

cicciogsr
04-07-2012, 22:33
thanks for the encouragement...the boom worries me..

cicciogsr
05-07-2012, 15:55
trust not hear the bang... but I would not touch if I am not familiar with..

lore gti
12-07-2012, 14:05
on a couple of things that I have read I do not agree, first of all do not agree on the fact that on gasoline, the less you touch the better ? (of course, the interpretation of the sentence ? subjective so perhaps I've misinterpreted), but touching only a few maps "indicated" in the drivers of the main editor will not modify all the settings necessary to get there? you are looking for, especially with regard to the turbo, which has many bug fixes and limitations. In the second place, I don't approve of the change of the map with that of another engine, why not ? a falsification of the signals, and are usually quite contrary to these interventions..

matech
12-07-2012, 16:13
I have worked a couple of days on a s3 and other VAG turbo engines, and honestly I find them very robust.

Check with vag-com, the interventions that you are running and with a little bit of knowledge of the engine, it is not hard to find some horses.
Personally, I think that is not a tadpole with advances too pulled, pressure, there are always margins, and gasoline they need it, as all the turbo ;-)

On the other hand, in america, these engines were used to turn 1,5 bar changed from single wastegate, without too many problems.....

lore gti
12-07-2012, 19:29
I agree, I have a younger sister (GTI 150hp) and I have raised great satisfaction, I then worked on many other 1.8 T even in a configuration not stock.. ? a nice engine, contrary to what you can? thinking of trying it fully ori.. as for change of wg you mean only by screwing in the dipstick? because in that way ? true that you get peak but with higher gears to stabilize the bottom... I capit? a leon tdi with this edit made from a "preparer" who apparently did not want to raise the turbo from the map, but even if the turbo was as high as the peak of the horses were not there, and the stable remained below 1 bar.

matech
12-07-2012, 19:37
Sisi, I was referring to the classic edit do-it-yourself...

Actually ? useful to get from the WG series pressure constant pi? high at high speeds, but only with shifts of a few mm, and then managing everything from the ecu...

lore gti
12-07-2012, 20:55
Sure... in any case, on the k03 around 1.5 peak and 1 is a constant and on the k04 you also get to 1.8 and passes the peak and 1.5 or less constant (perhaps by adjusting the exhaust) without touching the wg.. sincerely beyond those values, I don't I could go..

cicciogsr
12-07-2012, 21:43
I agree with you ... however the maps of the turbo are complex to interpret, I'm slamming my head... and say tap a little, and well, it seems to me too simplistic...

matech
12-07-2012, 22:22
no no, to go on the pressure you have to touch them, especially a...

matech
12-07-2012, 22:23
I agree with you ... however the maps of the turbo are complex to interpret, I'm slamming my head... and say tap a little, and well, it seems to me too simplistic...


I turn on the pi? low, those that I did.

the WG mprecarico to maintain a constant pi? high, but I don't go over 1.4 bar. The cv would rise also, but the efficiency of the turbo at those pressures ? so low that the power only lasts a short. I preferred to keep the pressure pi? low and maybe tweak it a bit advances.

cicciogsr
12-07-2012, 22:27
I would like to act only from the map the idea ? to understand how to make a map stock... I would like to work on the turbo at low and medium load by adapting the advances in that range I think that at full load, I'll let ori ...then for the amount? of benza I thought I would give some point at the top..

matech
13-07-2012, 07:50
do a test on the file of the first post...

lore gti
13-07-2012, 13:37
I am the opposite, I prefer to maybe postpone but to keep the most high with the turbo... not for position, but because I have verified that makes it more..

matech
13-07-2012, 20:32
of course, you're right: as the maximum power you get results more!

you have to see it when it begins to heat up the air after a couple of pull if the performance remains optimal, with the small turbo that mountain today on the turbo petrol!

on cars with the turbo big, altres?, I find the result more? drivable with human pressures. also on several Delta, it becomes fun and easy to handle 1.8 bar of boost without ALS!

lore gti
14-07-2012, 13:25
for the guidabilit? on other machines, exasperated, we agree (even if at that point I would seek the maximum if I could achieve the same results with less changes, but more thrust) as far as the turbo small the problem ? both the temperature (with a good ic fixes and often, new machines, ic are ir? generous compared to the old 1.8 T that had 1 or 2 2litri), but the surge line low... however with the pressures I was talking about I we're inside safely even after repeated efforts...

cattivik
14-07-2012, 21:18
on a couple of things that I have read I do not agree, first of all do not agree on the fact that on gasoline, the less you touch the better ? (of course, the interpretation of the sentence ? subjective so perhaps I've misinterpreted), but touching only a few maps "indicated" in the drivers of the main editor will not modify all the settings necessary to get there? you are looking for, especially with regard to the turbo, which has many bug fixes and limitations. In the second place, I don't approve of the change of the map with that of another engine, why not ? a falsification of the signals, and are usually quite contrary to these interventions..

It was, in fact, intended on tap all of the maps that tells you the driver! Speech change MAP sensor I l' I recommended xch? ? ultratestato and on these engines compared to the ori will move to its cutting prex turbo at 1.6 bar and things are very welcome and keeps you the prex is stable over 4500 rpm without letting it get off

davidehfnos
22-07-2012, 19:34
It was, in fact, intended on tap all of the maps that tells you the driver! Speech change MAP sensor I l' I recommended xch? ? ultratestato and on these engines compared to the ori will move to its cutting prex turbo at 1.6 bar and things are very welcome and keeps you the prex is stable over 4500 rpm without letting it get off

but in the map, not the ec limiter pressure turbo^????someone can indicate???according to me, and this 0193CA

frantik3
23-07-2012, 23:25
are maps that if you know what tap must be really strong I've seen made by specialized centers, and one of the last was modficata 21 times, and there had done nothing, I have lost more? time to rebuild the original file and do the step of the car !!!!!

cicciogsr
23-07-2012, 23:32
I also have vito file made in germany and I have to say that touch on many of the managements that the driver doesn't report the logic of this ecu ? very complex, a good mod comes only with maps of the drivers also why? you do not know the conversions....for example, some of you s? to the actual value of the pressure correspond to the values in the map of the turbo?... I'm trying to understand something more? on the cards ? one thing but really? not ? cos? simple..

frantik3
23-07-2012, 23:54
I usually do not use ecm and for the less its driver!!!!!!!

cicciogsr
23-07-2012, 23:56
if ? for this even I ..

gfr
24-07-2012, 13:32
we provide examples that do you think?I'm interested in this thing , approfondiamola

davidehfnos
24-07-2012, 14:16
but the limiter pressure turbo and the right to the address that I gave 0193CA

polini
25-07-2012, 14:00
first thing in the aps 051C be linearized in the map, then to have a stable pressure pi? constant you change the wastegate putting a pi? reinforced to then re-check the turbo pressure that pike pi?....

polini
25-07-2012, 14:01
do not forget that in america running with petrol 95 octane.... we here let's start from 98, and those who have those cars often uses the 100

davidehfnos
25-07-2012, 14:34
but the limiter and just, and that indicated to me???

cicciogsr
25-07-2012, 15:39
but the limiter pressure turbo and the right to the address that I gave 0193CA

it should be the one

matech
29-07-2012, 11:08
first thing in the aps 051C be linearized in the map, then to have a stable pressure pi? constant you change the wastegate putting a pi? reinforced to then re-check the turbo pressure that pike pi?....

at this point ? better to spend the money for a k04 on the 150/180 hp, while on the 210/225 just preload of a few mm in pi? the wg original, and then adjust the pressure from the sw....

in short, to make them turn to 1.2 I have not found many problems on the ones that I made...

polini
30-07-2012, 11:51
at this point ? better to spend the money for a k04 on the 150/180 hp, while on the 210/225 just preload of a few mm in pi? the wg original, and then adjust the pressure from the sw....

in short, to make them turn to 1.2 I have not found many problems on the ones that I made...

one account ? change waste and aps, an account ? instead of changing the turbo..... and then, also, the k04 has a spring of waste that seems to be that of a pen tic tac.....

polini
30-07-2012, 11:52
at this point ? better to spend the money for a k04 on the 150/180 hp, while on the 210/225 just preload of a few mm in pi? the wg original, and then adjust the pressure from the sw....

in short, to make them turn to 1.2 I have not found many problems on the ones that I made...

to get it to 1.2, the k03 is not c'? need n? to change aps n? the wastegate....

mavaila1972
10-08-2012, 03:27
As soon as I reach the number of posts I'll give you a hand
it is a bosch and simple enough

mavaila1972
11-08-2012, 15:45
to get it to 1.2, the k03 is not c'? need n? to change aps n? the wastegate....

if I remember correctly, the original is 0.9 bar already with 200mBar more and a good map becomes a missile

mavaila1972
14-08-2012, 20:16
after the August 15, I look at the map so we can discuss together

matech
15-08-2012, 14:46
Precisely, and to go much above 1.2 bar with the engine and turbo series, for high speeds of rotation, it seems to me unreasonable. I mentioned the k04

polini
20-08-2012, 18:20
speaking of turn 1.2 does not go beyond... and the k03 keeps tranquillamenta this pressure...
the ecu ? motronic med 9.1 and there are something like 30 maps + other hidden by identifying not ? easy how to map the jtd
if you do not raise the rail pressure and the relative limiter do not walk these are set at 110bar

matech
20-08-2012, 21:33
??

I think that here we are not talking about gi? the tfsi...

matech
20-08-2012, 21:45
12a6e and the following is a correction pressure as a function of some parameter, in my opinion. For example, the temperature. The change, however, always you can draw inspiration from the same electronic mounted on different versions of the car.

14f35 usually used to regulate the injection, I get some response, even if actually ****llo academic I do not know exactly whether correction with respect to the MAF.

and 013088 and the following are the management of the torque of the pedal?

polini
21-08-2012, 11:11
??

I think that here we are not talking about gi? the tfsi...

you're right... that tt the maps as if it was a diesel...

lore gti
21-08-2012, 12:32
this ? me 7.5 indirect injection

bobracing
06-09-2012, 01:05
as soon as I can download and post can I give my contribution, however, the logic that handles the pressure the turbo ? so :
1) pressure limiter , controls and implements recovery ( as on the TFSI )
2) the map that different N75 and is also the limiter pressure as a function of the DC set ( such as on the TFSI )
3) the map linearization N75 ( as on the TFSI )
4) and finally, the map that controls the pressure in KG/H ( as on the TFSI )

incredible changed HD from 7.5 to 9.X but the logic of the control pressure pipe ? identical

msport (exil77grande)
06-09-2012, 17:47
as soon as I can download and post can I give my contribution, however, the logic that handles the pressure the turbo ? so :
1) pressure limiter , controls and implements recovery ( as on the TFSI )
2) the map that different N75 and is also the limiter pressure as a function of the DC set ( such as on the TFSI )
3) the map linearization N75 ( as on the TFSI )
4) and finally, the map that controls the pressure in KG/H ( as on the TFSI )

incredible changed HD from 7.5 to 9.X but the logic of the control pressure pipe ? identical

bob,the contribution you can give it when you want to because of the post you can do it without problems but can't see the attachments,screen, and you may not receive the pass.

bobracing
06-09-2012, 20:32
bob,the contribution you can give it when you want to because of the post you can do it without problems but can't see the attachments,screen, and you may not receive the pass.

I just wanted to download the original :)

CarloAV
11-10-2013, 23:53
Sorry the question, but the tt of which he speaks has engine code apx or other (bam etc)? How can you read and write? I have galletto 1260 but I go crazy... Thanks