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marco
01-12-2012, 18:27
hi everyone, I wanted to ask you a question I'm writing centrallina edc 16c39 with mpps. the writing's all good, when I turn on the car lights malfunction indicator light engine, on the diagnosis results in this error p061b calibration centrallina. the car in question alfa 159 jtdm 16v 150 ps does anyone know why? thanks

giarras
01-12-2012, 18:46
and also succeed with that of my daughter, have you tried to delete with the diagnosis..I had to rewrite the ecu again ,if I remember well, I hanche closed the egr in the manual.

redline
01-12-2012, 19:11
I ecu I prefer to do them in the bdm you never know oerdi + time, but you are + quiet

marco
01-12-2012, 19:12
hello giarras but you penza that this is a matter of mapping done wrong? and why when I write ori and take them off in the diagnosis error does not turn on + what does it depend on.? ps to the ori. and removed the egr and fap

frantik3
01-12-2012, 19:18
rewrite the original, with no change then what you read from the car the first time , clear the error and rewrite the modified , it happens many times on those cars

msport (exil77grande)
01-12-2012, 19:30
great information as I've never,however, if it does, even after the council of frantik3 it would be better to see ori and mod.

magi1984
01-12-2012, 20:00
? definitely a problem of some modified map in the wrong way. Last week I had a boredom like this with the map of a 156 with the ecu edc16c8. After you have written the mod gave error p1645 contralina defective. I also spoke with msport in private, and I apologize for having forgotten to tell him how I fixed it. The fault was of the map "deal? fuel injected" that I had changed giving too many increments.

As a further test then I used my car as a guinea pig,bmw 120d with the ecu edc16c35, I did the same mod in the same map and in the diagnosis I had the error 4A70: signal map wrong.

frantik3
01-12-2012, 20:15
? definitely a problem of some modified map in the wrong way. Last week I had a boredom like this with the map of a 156 with the ecu edc16c8. After you have written the mod gave error p1645 contralina defective. I also spoke with msport in private, and I apologize for having forgotten to tell him how I fixed it. The fault was of the map "deal? fuel injected" that I had changed giving too many increments.

As a further test then I used my car as a guinea pig,bmw 120d with the ecu edc16c35, I did the same mod in the same map and in the diagnosis I had the error 4A70: signal map wrong.

on those ecu edc16c39 that error even if you only raise the limiter a couple times since reading only the area of the data sometimes in the process of closing is not done well the calibration in the ecu and not ? a matter of the map is made bad on those , avr? written a 200 ecu alfa edc16c39 and fiat, and on some it gave the error and I can assure you that an error of calibration of the map is made evil

magi1984
02-12-2012, 01:15
perhaps, I am not explained, for the map is made evil does not mean the entire map, only one, such as a torque limiter, just like you say

cicciogsr
02-12-2012, 10:30
according to me it happens because? touching on some of the maps are set to a torque that exceeds 500 Nm, and then d? a consistency error

Gerard
09-12-2012, 17:48
? happened to me with MPPS on a edc16c39, when going to write, you surely creates some brothel, and that error, I have rewritten the same file has been modified, but with BDM and like magic the error ? disappeared

marco
09-12-2012, 18:57
hello gerard, according to me it is not mpps ecu in question edc-39 the written 10 times, according to me, it was the titanium because it was the first time that I wrote a map with titanium it's always done with 2001, and was always good?

franco75
09-12-2012, 22:56
it may be the correct checksum bad?

frantik3
10-12-2012, 17:36
sometimes it happens does not depend on interface I with my interfaces the same car hanging hw and sw in some successful and others are not!!!
then just do what I said in another post to fix !!!

sportknight
18-12-2012, 22:06
to me, something happened like the first time that I wrote the map with a friend and her mpps on my 159 mjtd 150 hp ,after I bought a galletto clone and ? went always all good,I bought a mpps and I tried to write back to my car and I never pi? had provlemi,except on one occasion...today for example, I've rewritten and no problem,the mpps incasina the cecksum on these units but it does not happen often,but it is accessible to do safely with both mpps with galletto bdm ? well wasted

marco
19-12-2012, 11:39
hello then you say that this type of error depends on mpps? but the written twenty times with mpps.

Chris156
19-12-2012, 12:01
just delete the error with a diagnosis, if you still have(something difficult), it is better to rewrite.

sportknight
19-12-2012, 13:11
Even just deleting the error resolves

marco
19-12-2012, 13:25
really the fact, but nothing?

sportknight
19-12-2012, 13:58
And then you just have to rewrite anyway, we are talking about particular cases, your maybe it was a different case, such power as you put it? It was connected to vs current?

marco
19-12-2012, 14:48
you, however, if you can be useful and I always mapped to the ecm 2001 was the first time that I wrote a map made with titanium.

sportknight
19-12-2012, 15:08
that the driver you have used other times?

marco
19-12-2012, 15:19
practically never

sportknight
19-12-2012, 16:47
mmm,anyway, I repeat,to me ? happened 2 times,once not started for the cecksum and the other was the error that I reset and then with the edf

marco
19-12-2012, 20:09
sorry sportknight what do you mean with fes.

msport (exil77grande)
19-12-2012, 20:30
sorry sportknight what do you mean with fes.

*********** today it has become multiecuscan.

fa2st
19-12-2012, 21:34
then, and an error attributable to the map wrong or programatore used?

sportknight
19-12-2012, 21:44
The second to the programmer, but not the mouth anyway, just try again or to cancel the error, it depends on the circumstances

emilground
22-12-2012, 23:53
I also have a 159, and even if you personally do not ? happened never on my own ( I've done dozens and dozens of tests ), to my friend and ? was a problem of the map since? you ? put to edit the map using a driver ECM2001 giving values very discrepant between the maps the pedal and the Tinj ( I think he raised many a times and just the pedal). Once you correct this ? everything went ok. And then from there? I assume that if you "clipped" beyond a certain tolerance between maps and linked by their own logic (even if not directly) these problems arise.

jared_poe
23-12-2012, 00:04
I also have a 159, and even if you personally do not ? happened never on my own ( I've done dozens and dozens of tests ), to my friend and ? was a problem of the map since? you ? put to edit the map using a driver ECM2001 giving values very discrepant between the maps the pedal and the Tinj ( I think he raised many a times and just the pedal). Once you correct this ? everything went ok. And then from there? I assume that if you "clipped" beyond a certain tolerance between maps and linked by their own logic (even if not directly) these problems arise.
In fact, on the titanum when you open a map in a grid at the top it tells you the values allowed....it may be that, for example, if you put 3000 on the map rail pressure I think that will give you an error since ? allowed a maximum value of 1800bar on these cars

emilground
23-12-2012, 00:23
In fact, on the titanum when you open a map in a grid at the top it tells you the values allowed....it may be that, for example, if you put 3000 on the map rail pressure I think that will give you an error since ? allowed a maximum value of 1800bar on these cars

If I remember correctly, the values were not so? much exaggerated by go " driver". Somewhere, perhaps, I still have the map in question, and if I find the place. the EDC16C39 ? very sensitive and should be done all according to a logic fairly linear increase. Some error there more? as well stay, no ? perfect, the important ? do not overdo it with the increases. It is good practice to try to part the car, after you have loaded a map cos? to check for any recovery or other problems

James
23-12-2012, 11:57
? probabbile that, in the modifying, without the will have given some increase of 1 point in any part of the map, and you pull yourself out of this problem.

SandroMarciano
04-04-2013, 17:09
I open why? I ? 've a similar case, in particular, on a Good 120 1.6... I have unlocked all the torque limiters and quantity, but the car was like before n? pi? n? less (with the same maps I had no problems on the Giulietta 140 and 159 170), cos? I have tried to modify the table pair - quantity, and actually the car was a duty, but you ? presented the error p061b. Do you have any idea on how to change, however, the table without encountering the error? ? enough spendegere the dtc?
I would not change the times why? the car has the dpf.

frantik3
04-04-2013, 21:26
write ori reset the dtc and rewrite mod

SandroMarciano
05-04-2013, 00:01
ok, I try tomorrow, thanks for the advice.

giuseppe1374
05-04-2013, 13:02
sandro you have solved with the procedure frantik3? I'm interested in to me as well

frantik3
09-05-2013, 19:43
sandro then how you fixed it ?

r6raven2010
09-05-2013, 21:27
to me ? happened also on a daily and I fixed cn the reprogramming of the injectors, and even...

SandroMarciano
09-05-2013, 22:53
here is the solution, if you leave the axis of the pair unchanged dar? always error, no matter what you try, after 1 hour after the first power on, the 2^of the car give? failure and andr? as ori if not less.
The solution ? also change the axis for the pair and consider a factor of 5. For example, if I want to inject 120mm^3/i: 120x5=600Nm.

frantik3
10-05-2013, 13:49
then today I made other tests and I noticed that if I put the limiter at the maximum torque, with values that exceed the maximum value of the driver wish d? the failure, if it have ir? cheap no fault !!!!!

SandroMarciano
10-05-2013, 13:53
which of the limiter are you referring to?

frantik3
10-05-2013, 14:18
Limiter maximum torque

SandroMarciano
10-05-2013, 14:59
3993
And then this?

frantik3
10-05-2013, 15:51
It is exact!!!!!!

jacktheripper2
13-01-2014, 11:54
here is the solution, if you leave the axis of the pair unchanged dar? always error, no matter what you try, after 1 hour after the first power on, the 2^of the car give? failure and andr? as ori if not less.
The solution ? also change the axis for the pair and consider a factor of 5. For example, if I want to inject 120mm^3/i: 120x5=600Nm.

I have never had this error if you are not in these days, sometimes I ? appeared. The map nm/iq, I have also changed up to 120mm3, but without the problems?,on the contrary, if I raised the break point is not injected as it was wondering. In these days for? I ? popped the problem in maps where down the iq only map conversion and not from the pedal. The latest maps try that gave the error had also times raised a lot of only 100 and 110mm3 (first ? stock)

ducati83
20-01-2014, 16:30
hello, I am interested in why? also to me from time to time comes out this error:what do you mean by factor of 5?

crteam
21-01-2014, 11:51
you have solved the question?

jacktheripper2
21-01-2014, 18:26
hello, I am interested in why? also to me from time to time comes out this error:what do you mean by factor of 5?

C'? a bit that indicates that each of the mm3 is equivalent to 5nm, then you should put 550nm on the axis for 110mm3 and 600nm for 120mm3. To me for? not from error only raising the last bit of every curve without lifting the brekapoint of nm.

Already
31-01-2014, 20:52
I have had the opportunity to evidence their afternoon

The cause of that error ? the map conversion torque-IQ, the one that the ecm calls the deal? the injected fuel.
From the map I set the torque of 450nm, which corresponds to 100,40mm3 IQ and I wanted to avoid that at increasing rpm the IQ drop. Imposed on the entire column of 450nm to 100,40mm3 (in a few words is increased only from 2500rpm) And as soon as you turn on the framework in me "error calibration unit". Even if you delete it, not just turn off and turn on the picture reappears. As soon as I brought the ori that the map, everything work again.

I have the impression that the map is not you can modify to your liking

jacktheripper2
01-02-2014, 02:38
I have had the opportunity to evidence their afternoon

The cause of that error ? the map conversion torque-IQ, the one that the ecm calls the deal? the injected fuel.
From the map I set the torque of 450nm, which corresponds to 100,40mm3 IQ and I wanted to avoid that at increasing rpm the IQ drop. Imposed on the entire column of 450nm to 100,40mm3 (in a few words is increased only from 2500rpm) And as soon as you turn on the framework in me "error calibration unit". Even if you delete it, not just turn off and turn on the picture reappears. As soon as I brought the ori that the map, everything work again.

I have the impression that the map is not you can modify to your liking


The map should be only modified com the right policy, and do not have problems.

SandroMarciano
01-02-2014, 07:43
The map should be only modified com the right policy, and do not have problems.

are daccordissimo, ? what I osservvato I also, you have to maintain consistency between the couple and diesel fuel, that is, if you want to increase in the diesel fuel, you must also change the axis for the pair. If your problem ? get to inject 100mm^3/i, first of all I would try to work with 500Nm, if you want pi? raise torque at 600 and makes calculations in the diesel fuel that you can inject with those torque values.

Already
01-02-2014, 07:59
I did not want to inject more? what was in the map, but to keep it constant when you go up the rpm

SandroMarciano
01-02-2014, 08:51
I did not want to inject more? what was in the map, but to keep it constant when you go up the rpm

if I remember correctly at 500Nm injects approximately 100mm^3/the virtually all spins... otherwise you can make it to 600 and then put the limiter diesel fuel 100mm3/the...

jacktheripper2
01-02-2014, 14:33
are daccordissimo, ? what I osservvato I also, you have to maintain consistency between the couple and diesel fuel, that is, if you want to increase in the diesel fuel, you must also change the axis for the pair. If your problem ? get to inject 100mm^3/i, first of all I would try to work with 500Nm, if you want pi? raise torque at 600 and makes calculations in the diesel fuel that you can inject with those torque values.

I did not mean the problem of the axis. If you remember my topic, I could not go beyond the 100mm3 it was just to change the axis. After replacing the a-axis 500nm with 120mm3 them injected, by placing the axis 600nm and request to 600nm them not injected. If you want to the area before the 100mm3 we have to give the same increase in % for each column (as seen in the table). Or you just have to be careful to leave the pattern as the original, if 5000 rpm ori I 86mm3 to 400nm (example) and 4500 rpm I 84mm3, mod it, I can't put 90mm3 to 400nm in both rounds.
Without touching the axis if you want more bad under modified with the same % all the columns, even the very first, and then go to the limit by a pedal or surge at low rpm.