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blushark
23-11-2012, 23:55
Hello guys,after few maps made by me,I came to a map that, according to me ? the best I could do,to? since I am a beginner I would like to know what are your impressions and what additional modifications would you make to mention that my car ? a bmw e46 320d 150hp six-speed transmission and another thing how do I attach the files seen, which tells me the program that are not valid?

blushark
24-11-2012, 00:08
ok I managed to do it alone, we will send you the link to download my map ori and the one I modified...aspect of your opinions
link removed because it violates the regulation

blushark
24-11-2012, 01:01
ok I try again link removed because it violates the rules

blushark
24-11-2012, 01:41
ok, what do you think?

blushark
24-11-2012, 11:52
none I can? say?

msport (exil77grande)
24-11-2012, 12:49
then if you want to post something in the forum you have to get them to compress and attach mode advanced not through the external links,also as already said many times, maybe not you, but, in general, the file must be named as it must be, otherwise no one helps you,I hope I was clear.

ps
to name well the file I intend to marca_modello_cilindrata_cavalli_hardware_software _ori-mod ok?

msport (exil77grande)
24-11-2012, 13:25
however, for the map I receive, I will say that besides the torque limiters monstrous increases in all of the maps of 126 points and 72 points on the turbo there is no other judge,all over again.

blushark
24-11-2012, 18:28
thank you for clarification,here are the two files ori and mod,what mod ? the map that I had done and I would like to know if c'? something to change or improve

msport (exil77grande)
24-11-2012, 19:19
I compared the two files that were previously posted by you on the external link,the mod above attachment is different?
if it's different than the exhaust as well, otherwise if it always the same mod I have already answered.

blushark
24-11-2012, 19:23
no ? different? the one I had before loaded it in my car

msport (exil77grande)
24-11-2012, 19:49
this second mod done by those who a professional?
I give you my opinion,the first mod done by a beginner ok, and fix, even if done without the policy, the second was made by a criminal to nothing should certainly try thou hast walked about a bit.

blushark
24-11-2012, 19:54
I know I also paid for ? also famous,what advice would you give to me ?

blushark
24-11-2012, 19:56
what should I adjust to my map,the first that I had put

msport (exil77grande)
24-11-2012, 20:00
I know I also paid for ? also famous,what advice would you give to me ?

then if you want to do it only in the limit of the possible, and begins to study a bit on the forum and as soon as you can download a ori and mod evaluated discreet and need to understand a little of the policy, and you start to edit a map at a time by posting the file asking for help,then if you want a more permanent solution with a modified file on the basis of what you want to achieve with any upgrades or fixes then a file completely custom you can turn to our service files on-line and with less of the goal that you have spent for a file done in the workshop to 110% have more sodisfazioni from what I could see.

blushark
24-11-2012, 20:21
I thank you for everything,but how do I download a mod file if I do not have the privileges?
Then one last question if you ? can respond,to the address 0E13AE are the curves of the EGR that must be carried to the maximum value of 10003 to exclude it?

magi1984
24-11-2012, 21:48
I just looked at the "map of the preparer," sorry but you will not smoke in the car with a map like that?
? a mostruosit?, son you changed the correct maps, but with increases totally wrong and exaggerated
you never split anything in the engine using that map???
in case you have been really lucky and I would say that the bmw han of large motors to withstand such increases without breaking

blushark
25-11-2012, 00:54
I have definitely shortened the life of the fly that I just changed

blushark
25-11-2012, 10:52
no one I can? tell which address you will find the curves of the egr?

msport (exil77grande)
25-11-2012, 15:56
then the map you have indicated and the injection phase (egr), but this is a edc16 and you can't draw a straight line as on edc15 then you have to find and reset the controls that should be between 0E29EE and 0E2B64 are not 100% sure but think they are the ones you should give it a try.

blushark
25-11-2012, 16:24
how do I know this with certainty? c'? a program that does it,I tried carsoftware but nothing while time can't find it

magi1984
25-11-2012, 21:52
I am attaching an image for your egr off on an external site, because if I attach to the forum-you might still see it

blushark
25-11-2012, 22:47
[QUOTE=magi1984;15890]I am attaching a picture for your egr off on an external site, because if I attach to the forum-you might still see it


thank you, you've been very kind,now can I change it and try

blushark
25-11-2012, 23:56
thank you, once again, the magi,I loaded the map with this change and will not turn on ir? the light for the egr disconnected,you're a magician....one curiosity? but you have my same car?

magi1984
26-11-2012, 09:28
no, I have a bmw 120d e87
for? for me, as for many here in the chiptuning not ? only a hobby? my work (even if I only do it for a few months)
then a little bit of experience I had of me in these months

blushark
26-11-2012, 10:01
no, I have a bmw 120d e87
for? for me, as for many here in the chiptuning not ? only a hobby? my work (even if I only do it for a few months)
then a little bit of experience I had of me in these months

What do you think of my map,what should I change? As I have already? wrote my ? the result of tests on the road and it goes really

magi1984
26-11-2012, 10:12
if your map ? the one attached to the post 11 I gi? said what I think, that there are increases in monstrous without sense
and thou hast well said that surely you will have shortened the life of the flywheel.

if you have made another then I don't know where you put it and I have checked

blushark
26-11-2012, 10:18
No you are right that had been done by one that I paid for and I have found that has done stupid things thanks to you

magi1984
26-11-2012, 10:19
maybe I explain...? I just wrote that, the only map that I have seen ? the one attached to the post 11 ? a preparer
then:

if you have made another then I don't know where you put it and I have checked

not s? where is your map, if I indicate where you attached the control , otherwise I can not express myself on your map...? clear now?

blushark
26-11-2012, 10:20
I see it is included in the cos? if you like you can see if I've disabled the egr

blushark
26-11-2012, 10:29
Here is my map mod

magi1984
26-11-2012, 11:14
ok then the egr ? excluded correctly
for your map, if you want to know my opinion, I also don't like a p?, this is because? you gave all the maps a fixed proportion of the increase, while it would be better to go to scale, and then you've given increments exaggerated

to make you understand there? I mean, time of injection, you have given 126punti constants from 1000giri, and 40% of load up to 100%
it would be better to go from 60 to 120 points, using the INTERPOLATION function in order to give incremental
basically you've used this technique in all of the maps, for some it goes well, type the pressure of the rail where you have given an increase of 243 points constant, which for the record are 24bar in pi?, but for other maps it's not okay to work cos?
also for the turbo pressure you can give equal increments as you did, but 72 ? too little, by at least 150 points

the limiters are the known pi? sore of all your map, 2000 points, constant increment on all... in some maps you have given increments in the limiters equal to 100%, the turbo pressure you limited to 4400, the cio? 4.4 bar pressure that your turbine does not reach? never, break first.
the limiter rail pressure value is 18000, the cio? 1800bar, the edc17 work to 1800bar, not edc16

in addition, certainly for the error you gave an increase of 756% to the address e6b36
and you have not changed the maps of enrichment and acceleration, which are the maps that control everything.
you begin to change the maps and then adjust all the other

? as if you had started to build a house starting from the roof instead of the foundations

blushark
26-11-2012, 11:26
I did not understand well the method of interpolation,the cio? I have to start from 60 in the vertical until you get to 120?

magi1984
26-11-2012, 11:49
select the area that you want to edit in the map mode? table, then press the right button of the mouse and you will open the interpolation function

blushark
26-11-2012, 12:30
But for the rows or columns? I'm doing the changes you told me but for the injection split as I do,then for the enrichment in acceleration from what I understand, trying in telling me ? only a map that goes to vary the sensitivity? the sensor for the pedal and will come from? the injected ir? diesel in parit? pedal crushed, and therefore pi? Power

magi1984
26-11-2012, 14:09
I modify it for rows, but it's not up to me to tell you how to edit, not c'? a written law, everyone does it in his own way.

to map the throttle pedal ? the map that deals with the request of diesel fuel based on engine speed and the position padale
in practice, if the with the original map and the pedal at full load have a value of 100, the other maps are calibrated to give you the value that you have asked, what? 100
if you leave the original map and change only the other, ? as if with the pedal at full load have a value of 100, and the other maps are calibrated to give you 120
it makes no sense, why? 100 would be used, and the remaining 20 dispersed

blushark
26-11-2012, 14:16
In this map, I wouldn't know how to intervene,how many points do I have to give, and at what load and rpm?

blushark
26-11-2012, 14:17
If you continue to thank you for the attention that you're giving me the topic

magi1984
26-11-2012, 14:35
? a good habit to intervene in all of the maps from 1500rpm, 50% load
for me you can give increases ranging from 10% to 15%
using interpolation, put a check on percentage, for certain maps ? emglio working in percentage rather than in absolute

blushark
27-11-2012, 12:23
then the magi, after your valuable advice, I changed the map back,I tried it and let's say that I have remained without words for the power delivered and the only thing that I have not yet modified ? the map will. in acceleration,I would like to know the things you think about now and what should I still change.

blushark
27-11-2012, 12:26
in the pi? with the method of the interpolation I rimodificato a fiat bravo 1.9 120cv to a friend of mine and now it flies,leaving the absolute values of constants for all the maps except for that time in place where I used interpolation for lines

blushark
27-11-2012, 12:28
for those who want to give me more suggestions for this map,sar? happy to accept them and try them out

magi1984
27-11-2012, 15:11
in my opinion, no need start the process by 1000 rpm and 25% load, however apart from that ? nonsense, here is what is wrong according to me

there are more maps of enrichment and acceleration
in map 1 of 5 times an overboost probably for error you have decreased by 10 points in a couple of areas, only them...forgive her original
in the torque limiters you take 2000 points of increase which are an exaggeration, just give the 20%, 25%...you have given from 50 to 300% in the pi? in those maps
in the map turbo pressure you have given 150 points and ? ok, in the limiters give 160 or 170, not 450punti

wanting to there are 2 other limiters rail pressure out of the driver change, 1 to the address fbcb6 and the other to fc73a
being out driver you need to modify them in order to force mode? 2d, by 500 points increase as you have done with the limiters rail in the driver

msport (exil77grande)
27-11-2012, 20:48
apart from the tips of the magi, I would add that since you are missing the maps enrichment of change seen that all from them.

blushark
27-11-2012, 23:32
here is my map magazine,hope for the best....anyway I been doing to understand many things that I ignored the first

blushark
27-11-2012, 23:38
oh I forgot, the magi,the 10 points less in an overboost I have found,maybe uses a file ori different from the one my posted or the genus bacillus, another software that you make them see,I use ecm titanium then I do not know even why? not ? the first time I from the indications of errors or oversights that I can't find

blushark
28-11-2012, 16:03
Speaking of limiters out of the driver I do not know how to change them why? I don't know the rpm and the load

msport (exil77grande)
28-11-2012, 19:15
Speaking of limiters out of the driver I do not know how to change them why? I don't know the rpm and the load

you may + or - to rely on those that have been modified with the driver by counting the points of departure of the change in 2d.

blushark
28-11-2012, 20:36
you may + or - to rely on those that have been modified with the driver by counting the points of departure of the change in 2d.

Ok thanks,but what do you think of the last map? L have tried it, and low does not make as much as the next to last me posted,why is that?

blushark
29-11-2012, 14:46
If I'm exaggerating with the questions just tell me

msport (exil77grande)
29-11-2012, 17:20
then the maps enrichment have increased as well where there are negative values, and you missed some points if the parties after without changing where there are negative values, and better maps injection zoned boostxrpm have increased in an exaggerated fashion, and you forgot the other 4 similar to the 3 maps-pressure turbo are 2 the same as real values and a different result if you use the edit option in the similar maps a bust then holes with the same criterion,the first map of times an overboost you for the wrong done to an increase in negative return it ori,all the limiters start from 0 rpm to at least what it says on the driver fouls starting at about 1500 rpm,the limiters rail pressure foul higher follow the increase given to the rail pressure,for the rest of placing these things you can try.

blushark
30-11-2012, 11:21
Thanks for the advice, the only thing ? I can't find the error in the first map times an overboost,but use ecm titanium?

magi1984
30-11-2012 12:00 pm

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blushark
30-11-2012, 16:48
Thank you I managed to find
why? l I have compared it with another file ori who definitely have used you to compare my map,that change will be? an update of the bmw maybe not to do ir? break the turbines

magi1984
30-11-2012, 16:53
I don't think so. I have compared your MOD with your ORI attached to the post 11

blushark
30-11-2012, 17:35
I don't think so. I have compared your MOD with your ORI attached to the post 11

It was not a statement against your work,I'm sorry if I expressed myself badly,I can not only understand why changing the gold of another car with the same numbers I can see the ten points less

blushark
27-12-2012, 15:25
I'm back guys this is the one that I'm attaching ? my latest map,I would like to know what you think without considering the limiters

blushark
28-12-2012, 17:05
No one I can? give his opinion

msport (exil77grande)
28-12-2012, 17:45
No one I can? give his opinion

tomorrow I give him willingly a look and give you my opinion, unfortunately, today I was a bit busy.

jolidj
28-12-2012, 19:25
then.the thing that nn I really like are the limiters torque , ugly , foul, more beautiful , more round , nn keep the trend of the origininale that sucks, if you put it on the tour is the machine you'll see that torque you have up to 3000giri then it will decrease immediately.
and the bmw pull up to 4000 rpm.
on the first torque limiter you have a range of 50mg to almost 1000 rpm, no if I'm wrong, explain to me what do you need? then you touched I steep this limiter bringing it to 6000 , and that's great, I think you made a post.
limiter fumes idem has its maximum limit by the original 65mg , if you limiters you can get to 5000 I will need to increase even more the lim fumes . you made the same change to the diesel of the lim fumes. according to me this machine is smoke and has only the starting point then over and almost original.maybe I'm wrong.
if you do , the foot pedal to 15% , all the lim torque ( also the one that makes 6 out of tune ) to 15%, lim fumes ori, turbo all up to 150 points in the + , diesel farl'I start a little + " caterpillar" type 3% and then go to 10% , lim rail 3% , according to me, the machine will be better.
surely the values of the limiters diesel nn I have to be rivals but they must have the same flow.
this is my opinion . good job.

msport (exil77grande)
28-12-2012, 20:04
then.the thing that nn I really like are the limiters torque , ugly , foul, more beautiful , more round , nn keep the trend of the origininale that sucks, if you put it on the tour is the machine you'll see that torque you have up to 3000giri then it will decrease immediately.
and the bmw pull up to 4000 rpm.
on the first torque limiter you have a range of 50mg to almost 1000 rpm, no if I'm wrong, explain to me what do you need? then you touched I steep this limiter bringing it to 6000 , and that's great, I think you made a post.
limiter fumes idem has its maximum limit by the original 65mg , if you limiters you can get to 5000 I will need to increase even more the lim fumes . you made the same change to the diesel of the lim fumes. according to me this machine is smoke and has only the starting point then over and almost original.maybe I'm wrong.
if you do , the foot pedal to 15% , all the lim torque ( also the one that makes 6 out of tune ) to 15%, lim fumes ori, turbo all up to 150 points in the + , diesel farl'I start a little + " caterpillar" type 3% and then go to 10% , lim rail 3% , according to me, the machine will be better.
surely the values of the limiters diesel nn I have to be rivals but they must have the same flow.
this is my opinion . good job.


sorry, explain to me how did you see this map even when you are part of the beginner category?

jolidj
28-12-2012, 21:06
I don't know , downloaded the file and I checked. am I doing something wrong??

msport (exil77grande)
28-12-2012, 21:58
I don't know , downloaded the file and I checked. am I doing something wrong??

you do not have anything wrong but I wanted to know how did you download the file if still you were not in the category of the average user, and then you were still privileges to download mi fuge dev check the permissions.

blushark
28-12-2012, 22:00
then.the thing that nn I really like are the limiters torque , ugly , foul, more beautiful , more round , nn keep the trend of the origininale that sucks, if you put it on the tour is the machine you'll see that torque you have up to 3000giri then it will decrease immediately.
and the bmw pull up to 4000 rpm.
on the first torque limiter you have a range of 50mg to almost 1000 rpm, no if I'm wrong, explain to me what do you need? then you touched I steep this limiter bringing it to 6000 , and that's great, I think you made a post.
limiter fumes idem has its maximum limit by the original 65mg , if you limiters you can get to 5000 I will need to increase even more the lim fumes . you made the same change to the diesel of the lim fumes. according to me this machine is smoke and has only the starting point then over and almost original.maybe I'm wrong.
if you do , the foot pedal to 15% , all the lim torque ( also the one that makes 6 out of tune ) to 15%, lim fumes ori, turbo all up to 150 points in the + , diesel farl'I start a little + " caterpillar" type 3% and then go to 10% , lim rail 3% , according to me, the machine will be better.
surely the values of the limiters diesel nn I have to be rivals but they must have the same flow.
this is my opinion . good job.

thanks for your opinion but my map ? the result of the advice that I have given in this post and cos? you them to me very different and I believe that these tips I have been useful since ? improved a lot the car and then I told him not to look at the limiters,anyway, thank you all the same your help

jolidj
28-12-2012, 22:18
nn I am doubtful about the advice that you have given ,but each one has his own ideas about and difficult to understand who is right , anyway, but if you hurt the limiters nn it makes sense to continue being limiting in diesel.
and true as well that you better than everyone understands the changes on the car.

blushark
28-12-2012, 23:27
nn I am doubtful about the advice that you have given ,but each one has his own ideas about and difficult to understand who is right , anyway, but if you hurt the limiters nn it makes sense to continue being limiting in diesel.
and true as well that you better than everyone understands the changes on the car.

I'm sorry, but in what sense is limited in the diesel fuel,better explained,I have only increased as a percentage of the limiters and not l I declined,and then, as I have done to decrease the diesel entered,perhaps I did not understand their operation,according to me to increase means to raise the threshold of the limiter,so if I take them to the maximum means almost eliminate their intervention or am I wrong?

jolidj
29-12-2012, 14:22
that's right, the function and that's it. but if you set the limiter to a value , and useless that will also increase other maps above that of the limiter , so cut always.
the work in the maps of the limiters refer to the cutting of fuel.
if you have a maximum value at 40mg on the limiters , even if you + diesel ones limiterano always.
in the meantime, on your own you need to adjust the limiters , do the theory at a certain point, and unnecessary.

blushark
29-12-2012, 18:17
Ok you're right but I with ecm titanium I don't have the limiter in the flue gas, or it is called in a different way, then I think that the torque limiter has them already? brought over the curves that I have modified,but you which programs do you use?

blushark
29-12-2012, 18:22
tomorrow I give him willingly a look and give you my opinion, unfortunately, today I was a bit busy.

I'm sorry if I'm still in the cause, but appearance is also your opinion so as to collect ir? advice possible

msport (exil77grande)
29-12-2012, 21:58
I'm sorry if I'm still in the cause, but appearance is also your opinion so as to collect ir? advice possible

then, first of all, the torque limiter does not like me for anything you need to leave after the amendment say that the titanium indicates how to 1500rpm, and how you can increase from 20% to rise gradually without exaggeration you have increases monstrous,then the driver may also wish to go, however, I do not piaccciono so completely increments that you have given,then the map injection zoned falla + or - regolandoti on the driver's wish, and the same thing for the injection times,I don't know if you noticed but in the main map of the times of an overboost you have accidentally changed a point individualo and return it ori,the limiter pressure because you've raised so much? the rail pressure can go, but not the maximum,the limiter also why so high?
for the rest you can try it as-is or with a few adjustments as I indicated,good job.

blushark
31-12-2012, 01:51
what would be the driver's wish
then, first of all, the torque limiter does not like me for anything you need to leave after the amendment say that the titanium indicates how to 1500rpm, and how you can increase from 20% to rise gradually without exaggeration you have increases monstrous,then the driver may also wish to go, however, I do not piaccciono so completely increments that you have given,then the map injection zoned falla + or - regolandoti on the driver's wish, and the same thing for the injection times,I don't know if you noticed but in the main map of the times of an overboost you have accidentally changed a point individualo and return it ori,the limiter pressure because you've raised so much? the rail pressure can go, but not the maximum,the limiter also why so high?
for the rest you can try it as-is or with a few adjustments as I indicated,good job.

msport (exil77grande)
31-12-2012, 15:22
driver wish= vulgarly called enrichment and acceleration.

blushark
01-01-2013, 19:08
ok thanks for the clarification but ? a word adjust the injection times and the injection split according to driver's wish

blushark
06-01-2013, 14:05
one thing I wanted to ask,but why, if a 10% increase in the rail pressure the light comes on dde? what would be the curve to be modified to not turn on the light saw that the limiters rail pressure should be over the value of press?ion that can you? reach?

msport (exil77grande)
06-01-2013, 17:36
one thing I wanted to ask,but why, if a 10% increase in the rail pressure the light comes on dde? what would be the curve to be modified to not turn on the light saw that the limiters rail pressure should be over the value of press?ion that can you? reach?

I'm sorry, but you talk about bar so that you can not think only of the % you have to see the actual values,if the machine runs at 1400 bar and by 10% means that to raise the pressure to 1540bar of course, by adjusting the limiter but not only the pressure is too much, but the pump, injectors, etc, etc don't you think is suitable for them and still not see all of this to be useful,of course, you should see the rest of the map is not made up only of rail pressure otherwise already put an add-on module and that's it.

blushark
07-01-2013, 20:46
As soon as I can I will send you the last map

blushark
07-01-2013, 22:29
This ? my latest map that I have already? tried,what is it about this time?

blushark
08-01-2013, 19:35
anyway, with your advice I'm getting results that I was able to get the slightest and I hope to get more

E92_mpower
11-01-2013, 13:05
hello blushark have you solved it? anyway, congratulations for the work and the commitment nice discussion

blushark
11-01-2013, 19:16
What I fixed

blushark
12-01-2013, 11:58
guys what do you think of my last map?

E92_mpower
12-01-2013, 13:57
It was reported to the map if you managed to put it precisely

blushark
12-01-2013, 15:09
It was reported to the map if you managed to put it precisely

for me this is fine for? appearance tips from you all

blushark
13-01-2013, 18:08
C ? someone who could give me an opinion on my map?

msport (exil77grande)
13-01-2013, 19:28
C ? someone who could give me an opinion on my map?

the map I believe that you pose to try,but I would work more than up on the rail pressure and are you sure that the turbine is unable to digest the chore that you have fate at a high rpm?
also review the turbo pressure 3/3 that is different than the first 2.

blushark
14-01-2013, 12:33
the map I believe that you pose to try,but I would work more than up on the rail pressure and are you sure that the turbine is unable to digest the chore that you have fate at a high rpm?
also review the turbo pressure 3/3 that is different than the first 2.
ok thanks for the advice,I may give some indication on how to work up on the rail pressure and the turbo?
urbo

blushark
14-01-2013, 12:38
oh I forgot one thing,but how come there are negative values in the enrichment in acceleration? this map from what I understand it handles the quantity? of diesel fuel equal? load pedal, but these values do not understand the usefulness

blushark
15-01-2013, 22:32
Sorry for the many questions ,but for now, I can't access to the discussions that I chiarirebbero many doubts, and I cannot deny that it would have been very pi? simple to read the various guides on the forum that do a thousand and one questions

blushark
21-01-2013, 22:25
but why? I can't date ir? a response