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alfetta80
21-11-2012, 22:55
guys the file that I attach not been changed by me but by a colleague in my area,in practice, the client asked me to retouch this map, and above all, lower the pressure the turbo after you have changed the two turbines (not by me)..I personally don't feel like touching it and take this responsibility then before I could lean on someone I'd like to discuss with you.....thanks..
dvdtuning
22-11-2012, 01:25
Alfetta now I don't have time to see it but if you search the forum you will find at least two other maps of the same engine (made by me) with the advice of the professionals of the forum.
alfetta80
22-11-2012, 08:20
Alfetta now I don't have time to see it but if you search the forum you will find at least two other maps of the same engine (made by me) with the advice of the professionals of the forum.
ok thanks I will give a look.....
alfetta80
22-11-2012, 11:54
guys my questions are these the turbo pressure of retouching that is the setting I leave it like that??or retouching by**** in an other way??or (munro) modify it as you told me you??then by lowering the turbine do I need to also decrease the amount of fuel injected right?that you advise me to do? in the meantime, the map according to you how it was done???
magi1984
22-11-2012, 12:19
studied this map: https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?185-Mappa-Golf-4-tdi-edc15p-101cv-incredibile/page2
your not good
increments exaggerated in the map accelerator pedal, 50/60/70%....turbo pressure increased to 300 points...you have touched the an overboost that I don't ? must...
also, according to me, the ORIGINAL file that you have NOT read ? The ORIGINAL
it was already? changed the map
another thing, always enter the number of HW and SW why? ? pi? simple for those who want to help
I would try the original file if you had put the hw and sw
instead of cos? I did not do it why? there I have time and didn't even want to slam to find hw and sw of your car
alfetta80
22-11-2012, 13:00
studied this map: https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?185-Mappa-Golf-4-tdi-edc15p-101cv-incredibile/page2
your not good
increments exaggerated in the map accelerator pedal, 50/60/70%....turbo pressure increased to 300 points...you have touched the an overboost that I don't ? must...
also, according to me, the ORIGINAL file that you have NOT read ? The ORIGINAL
it was already? changed the map
another thing, always enter the number of HW and SW why? ? pi? simple for those who want to help
I would try the original file if you had put the hw and sw
instead of cos? I did not do it why? there I have time and didn't even want to slam to find hw and sw of your car
hi magi, thanks for the answer...the file if you read my initial post was not edited by me and the car and my client's,I read the edited file, and not having the gold to mod and have been reported to ori, not by me obviously,the number of sw and the final'663609...the driver you can find it manually, in auto it will not find it because eventually some mod and did not know how it works..
magi1984
22-11-2012, 14:15
then...the discussion that I have reported before, the dvdtuning, contains the same as your file is same as the number of HW and SW, on page 2 of that topic you will find the map already? ready to dvdtuning, use it as a base for your map, or you can charge in the car directly at that map, that ? definitely better than what you have posted you
specifically, you have increased the maps of the accelerator pedal 140% in some points
torque limiters have them get up to 50%
turbo pressure and an overboost am totally wrong
in essence: if the write of this map in the next 3 months that splits the turbine for the third time
magi1984
22-11-2012, 15:55
I fully agree :D
alfetta80
22-11-2012, 21:36
[QUOTE=munro;15348]give quel increase to the pedal absurd in all the press turbo raised means you have the press turbo final uncontrolled that, as a minimum, tap the 1,4-1,5 press I think....
when ori barely works at 1 bar...
normal that the crowd give...
if you alfetta do it a thousand times better than the map...
*the magi, I would say that this map could go straight in the maps section jokes....[/QUOT!!!!
munro thanks for the confidence but I'm still on the high seas!!!!!can you please post some screen...another thing, the screen injection choked what is it I can not decipher it...thanks
alfetta80
22-11-2012, 21:38
I fully agree :D
magi1984 I read the thread you recommended and I have downloaded the file, study a bit then I'll know...thank you so soon..
alfetta80
23-11-2012, 11:51
injection zoned should refer to the "opening" injectors but do not put my hand on fire, the driver of the ecm, sometimes to the detriment of bizarre names to the maps from the screnn rech to show the axes to clearly identify what it is...
hello munro... the axes with the ecm are the ones you see there is not another one!!!at least, that I did not catch what you want to say!!!
alfetta80
26-11-2012, 23:42
so guys, or closed 'egr mod hot starter, because it is hard for a bit, then the turbo pressure and the pedal up to here I think I have see that you tell me!!!for the injections, I can not understand anything, in edc16 titanium and much more specific here don't understand...if someone can give me a tip..I could copy it but I would like to understand something...
I put a with the titanium of the edc15p
carlo abarth
27-11-2012, 00:17
do not touch much on the turbo that is in 2 max 100 points already enough!!!
alfetta80
27-11-2012, 13:15
do not touch much on the turbo that is in 2 max 100 points already enough!!!
hello carlo..***** and I made it to the top??I increased to 130 points, I put a screen..
alfetta80
27-11-2012, 13:18
alfetta... mail the tabular injection zoned..we see that the values you in that way....perhaps it could be the Smoke Limiter....
the map fumes in short, another species of limiter diesel....for the other names that ecm tacks to the maps don't go there too much behind...guradali always in 2d and in tabular see if you can understand what it is....
hello munro here is the screen
alfetta80
27-11-2012, 14:02
mah those numbers in the table do not tell me absolutely nothing.... it could be anything diesel,degrees boh....expect some expert give us a straight....
for the map turbo check "real values" however, I think that 130 points are not so many in fonodo are just 0.13 bar more....
munro and' what I say well I can't find a logic....for the turbo thing intent to check the real values?can you please post the screen of the iniezzione zoned map1 and 2 maybe you pull out something...
dvdtuning
27-11-2012, 14:06
With ecm titanium values should be already? real, to escape only the prex of the atmosphere.
dvdtuning
27-11-2012, 14:41
I confirm that I have maps of advance map 1 and map 2, and also the boost x rpm
dvdtuning
27-11-2012, 15:31
You factor 0,023436. For example, in map 1 at 4500rpm with 100% load the advance ? of 32,48 degrees.
alfetta80
27-11-2012, 20:29
I confirm that I have maps of advance map 1 and map 2, and also the boost x rpm
thanks guys x resp,instead of the injection, split(1)of which I was talking with munro to which are you referring to??? there is also the screen above
dvdtuning
27-11-2012, 21:20
I repeat those numbers of injection zoned not tell me a beloved....
Maybe the injection times...
alfetta80
28-11-2012, 13:55
Maybe the injection times...
thanks dvdtuning!!also here, the numbers need to be converted??
alfetta80
29-11-2012, 16:44
Maybe the injection times...
hello dvdtuning the map that you made then you have it tested?okay?another thing that is a little more' iniezzione choked I can't understand anything.......thanks!!!!!!!!
dvdtuning
29-11-2012, 18:54
I the map I tried it and it's fine, nothing exuberant? ? linear.
The eye that I had made a serious error in the moddare advances, I think it would have exploded the engine with those increases.
No I am confused on the injection zoned, ? a limiter of smoke ? advisable to change it in a progressive way to avoid that to a minimum with the first gear, the car gives you the feeling of excessive sensitivity? and then it couldn't be handled.
alfetta80
29-11-2012, 19:42
I the map I tried it and it's fine, nothing exuberant? ? linear.
The eye that I had made a serious error in the moddare advances, I think it would have exploded the engine with those increases.
No I am confused on the injection zoned, ? a limiter of smoke ? advisable to change it in a progressive way to avoid that to a minimum with the first gear, the car gives you the feeling of excessive sensitivity? and then it couldn't be handled.
thanks..but what is the task of this map, i.e. the limiter smoke???for the map, not preocc I read a good discussion and I took the one with the advances correct,I think I write it then I will have you know!other opinions say that it is a good map.
for what it's? I map the fumes from the name itself limits the fuel to not burn the car and s? also that you change the calculator to the hand because it has to recalculate the stoichiometric ratio
then for? pu? be that I'm saying na the tide ca**te
alfetta80
30-11-2012, 10:19
for what it's? I map the fumes from the name itself limits the fuel to not burn the car and s? also that you change the calculator to the hand because it has to recalculate the stoichiometric ratio
then for? pu? be that I'm saying na the tide ca**te
thanks x the resp...
but' maybe know a little more reasoning of the ecu?then on the table the numbers are mg of fuel injected?for example, I'm at 3500 rpm at 100 load I find 4265 but what is pear? ecm does not specify anything!?
Hello,alfetta, what do I thank?? I have written what I think I know then not ? said that it is so?.
with regard to the ecm if you use the titanium according to me you first throw it in the toilet because, according to me, in comparison with the 2001 I believe that the latter is better also because I believe that if you get the injection parzalizzato(name of the pipe,I hate ecm for these names to *******m!) at least you can see the columns in the tabular values of the limiter flue gas air intake from the mass air flow sensor in mg and turns and of course the resulting diesel fuel injected only that if you take, for example, a value on the axis of the air to 750mg and the divide by a value of diesel fuel in the map,that now I can't remember if they are in mm3 (or mg,and them divide among them, you will get a rapport stechio or, better said AFR so you will understand that the ecu with the air and the diesel is working in the respect of the AFR of the problem stems from the fact that if you where there should be a quantity? air read a number of fantasy that can? be 80-90-100-a million how do you calculate this blessed afr for not smoking? according to me ? impossible. but pu? maybe I'm saying again, a tide of s**te.
dvdtuning
30-11-2012, 12:25
In the diesel in the tanks? of intake air to each of the suction phase remains almost? constant to vary the rpm and engine load,
for this reason, it is measured only the quantity? and the quality? fuel suitable for the load and the regime, without adjustment of the intake air, but bens? dell compressed air from the turbo for a performance major.
In a diesel there is no stechio ideal for high performance engine to which it varies? always.
I will recommend an increase from 50 load by 8% and increase until the end of the map to a max of 15%, having already? changed the other maps...cash advances, you can let the original for the moment.
Then try and tell us how well does the car.
dvd but secnodo you the maf, what's the use?
alfetta80
03-12-2012, 18:01
Hello,alfetta, what do I thank?? I have written what I think I know then not ? said that it is so?.
with regard to the ecm if you use the titanium according to me you first throw it in the toilet because, according to me, in comparison with the 2001 I believe that the latter is better also because I believe that if you get the injection parzalizzato(name of the pipe,I hate ecm for these names to *******m!) at least you can see the columns in the tabular values of the limiter flue gas air intake from the mass air flow sensor in mg and turns and of course the resulting diesel fuel injected only that if you take, for example, a value on the axis of the air to 750mg and the divide by a value of diesel fuel in the map,that now I can't remember if they are in mm3 (or mg,and them divide among them, you will get a rapport stechio or, better said AFR so you will understand that the ecu with the air and the diesel is working in the respect of the AFR of the problem stems from the fact that if you where there should be a quantity? air read a number of fantasy that can? be 80-90-100-a million how do you calculate this blessed afr for not smoking? according to me ? impossible. but pu? maybe I'm saying again, a tide of s**te.
hello, I think that it is right to thank you because you helped, also, maybe a little help but it is important to...
returning to the speech I, or both the titan that in 2001, however, on the edc15p it seems to me the same instead of the titan on edc16, for me, very well done.....
alfetta80
03-12-2012, 18:19
In the diesel in the tanks? of intake air to each of the suction phase remains almost? constant to vary the rpm and engine load,
for this reason, it is measured only the quantity? and the quality? fuel suitable for the load and the regime, without adjustment of the intake air, but bens? dell compressed air from the turbo for a performance major.
In a diesel there is no stechio ideal for high performance engine to which it varies? always.
I will recommend an increase from 50 load by 8% and increase until the end of the map to a max of 15%, having already? changed the other maps...cash advances, you can let the original for the moment.
Then try and tell us how well does the car.
so if I understand correctly, the injection split that would be a limiter of the flue gas,in the axis, I find the numbers of turns of the load and the resulting diesel fuel injected??but diesel fuel is injected on the basis of the intake air or the compressed air??
dvdtuning
03-12-2012, 18:34
dvd but secnodo you the maf, what's the use?
The maf I repeat that measure almost? the same air inlet to vary the rpm and load...don't you force aspire to more? air, but you have to give the turbo, speaking in a way of cash.
dvd studying this topic, you are out of the way....plug any scanner to the ecu and displays the parameters of the intake air from the maf you will see that approximately, depending on the engine the maf do you give? at a minimum, around 300mg of air to the maximum you will have approximately 1000-1200g of intake air that does not ? almost the same as the air intake, but c'? a big difference, and this means the ec and the ecu based many of his strategies to work on the maf, as otherwise it would be as you say, this sensor would be one thing totally useless....
you perhaps are you confused by the fact that the diesel aspires always to the maximum air available but forget his more big variable this? the revs of the engine...at idle,say 1000 rpm,aspirera less air at 4000 rpm....
dvdtuning
03-12-2012, 19:03
dvd studying this topic, you are out of the way....plug any scanner to the ecu and displays the parameters of the intake air from the maf you will see that approximately, depending on the engine the maf do you give? at a minimum, around 300mg of air to the maximum you will have approximately 1000-1200g of intake air that does not ? almost the same as the air intake, but c'? a big difference, and this means the ec and the ecu based many of his strategies to work on the maf, as otherwise it would be as you say, this sensor would be one thing totally useless....
you perhaps are you confused by the fact that the diesel aspires always to the maximum air available but forget his more big variable this? the revs of the engine...at idle,say 1000 rpm,aspirera less air at 4000 rpm....
I'm sorry, munro I expressed myself badly...I meant what you said but if we take 2000 rpm in third gear the maf measurement example, 1000 input...if we ask for more? diesel always at 2000rpm the maf misurer? always the same thing, or am I wrong?
In the diesel in the tanks? of intake air to each of the suction phase remains almost? constant to vary the rpm and engine load,
for this reason, it is measured only the quantity? and the quality? fuel suitable for the load and the regime, without adjustment of the intake air, but bens? dell compressed air from the turbo for a performance major.
I have given what you have written for you to give an account of how you have changed your mind....
say what you said in the last post and already a big step forward compared to the inaccuracies above.....
your reasoning then the quantity of air to paritadi rounds ? obvious, but the relationship stechio also exists in the diesel..if you at 2000 rpm you have 1000g of air and 50g of diesel oil you have an air-fuel ratio of 20 to 1...
if you have the same rpm and with the same air of 1000g from 60g to fuel your AFR sar? 16.6 to 1 and probably fumerai...
alfetta80
03-12-2012, 22:06
I have given what you have written for you to give an account of how you have changed your mind....
say what you said in the last post and already a big step forward compared to the inaccuracies above.....
your reasoning then the quantity of air to paritadi rounds ? obvious, but the relationship stechio also exists in the diesel..if you at 2000 rpm you have 1000g of air and 50g of diesel oil you have an air-fuel ratio of 20 to 1...
if you have the same rpm and with the same air of 1000g from 60g to fuel your AFR sar? 16.6 to 1 and probably fumerai...
hello munro!!
your speech is healthy and precisely, and then the limiter smoke the reasoning of??i.e. if the increase of 10g diesel fuel to 2000giri the quantita'of the air intake remains the same, the AFR will be of 16.6 to 1 then fumera,' to bring the AFR to 20 to 1, how do you do?? i.e. only from the map, the only solution will be to increase the turbo pressure at that rpm.....or calculate the number of turns and the amount of intake air for each cycle the proper increase of fuel to be injected, which should be the purpose of the limiter smoke right??
great alfetta!!you have centered in the middle of the reasoning if lim fumes ori have e.g. a ratio afr 17:1 between the air and fuel you can modify it in two ways I have the abbasi down with the AFR, or you can change the values in the axes to comply with what is set in the ecu...
dvdtuning
04-12-2012, 00:02
I have given what you have written for you to give an account of how you have changed your mind....
say what you said in the last post and already a big step forward compared to the inaccuracies above.....
your reasoning then the quantity of air to paritadi rounds ? obvious, but the relationship stechio also exists in the diesel..if you at 2000 rpm you have 1000g of air and 50g of diesel oil you have an air-fuel ratio of 20 to 1...
if you have the same rpm and with the same air of 1000g from 60g to fuel your AFR sar? 16.6 to 1 and probably fumerai...
In fact, I wrote that you can only deal with the compressed air otherwise fumerai always if you can turn up the diesel fuel, according to your theory...I sbaliato in saying that remains constant if we increase only the diesel.
Pero original is at 1000 to 3000 rpm, the ratio stechio varies, but the ecu adapts and doesn't make you smoke it...
I speak, however, of substantial increases and not 1000 rpm!
Munro I want to tell you that I am almost? a beginner then this discussion ? of safe learning for me...
I s? you do not want to understand dvd....the map of the flue gas is based on the intake air to the engine, and weighted by the mass air flow sensor or MAF...
others, however, have the maps, the flue gas based on the turbo pressure sensor or MAP.....the edc15p in question has both types of limiters fumes..one based on the MAF, and the other based on the MAP if you increase the values linearly to the percentage on both the car with a lot of propabilit? will start to smoke like a ferry..***** and I have said somewhere else in these maps you change the calculator to the hand....
however, take a look at this post where it explains very well the concept of the lim fumes and also as moddarlo..
https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?420-Materiale-di-studio-per-principianti/page4
alfetta80
05-12-2012, 13:07
great alfetta!!you have centered in the middle of the reasoning if lim fumes ori have e.g. a ratio afr 17:1 between the air and fuel you can modify it in two ways I have the abbasi down with the AFR, or you can change the values in the axes to comply with what is set in the ecu...
thanks munro!!
in practice, connecting the discourse to the usual edc15p on iniezzione zoned i.e. limiter fumes, I find the engine revolutions, the load and the resultant, that is, the numbers in the grid that would be fuel injected??as I find myself at 3500rpm 100load and in tabular 4265 thing but' according to you??diesel 42.65 mg??let's see if it is just this reasoning:if I'm going to increase the map the pedal to the ecu on the basis of its strategies will be to increase the diesel right??but only diesel? or even limiter, smoke, and turbo pressure?? we put the ecu, I fit the diesel on the basis of the increase which I have given to the map the pedal,now only increased the quantity of diesel fuel, the AFR is changed at this point, I'm going to adjust the turbo pressure aumentado the compressed air to the tot n?of revolutions and at the same time, I'm going to adapt the limiter in the flue gas,but the ecm thinks!!??I find them the rpm and the load, if the intake air is not the can I change those numbers, or is this pressure turbo or diesel!!??increasing those numbers to inform the ecu of the increase which have you done???in order to correct lAFR???it is a bit twisted as my mind at this time ahaha I hope you understand....
did you read the link to the thread posted?
alfetta80
05-12-2012, 15:35
did you read the link to the thread posted?
no munro!which link???
magi1984
05-12-2012, 15:41
post number 40
alfetta80
05-12-2012, 15:47
ok ok thanks munro and magi1984, I had not made the case!!I give him a look!!!!!...
msport (exil77grande)
05-12-2012, 17:21
did you read the link to the thread posted?
I deleted your answer you before me, you also deleted, but anyway, I can read,I hope that you've deleted it because you realized that you wrote the wrong things and I sincerely hope not to have to see things like written,it seems to me that the forum is in its small way, you're still giving of the fruits, but no he had to keep it in mind,who wants to participate in good and she must do so in a comprehensive manner, those who do not go doesn't write and just keep it in the middle',for the rest, here they exchange opinions and there are professors who teach on-line.
msport, but you control only me?? I stay with the breath on his neck for something that I should not do?? frankly, the post in question deleted because it does not reflect my way of being...if I have helped up to now will continue? to do if the riterr? should be...then if I somehow I got it wrong, take the appropriate action...I always said I have no problems..unlike others who have major difficulties from the point of view that you know well I think....therefore you are? why not by a subsidiary also to others??
alfetta80
06-12-2012, 00:23
so guys the link posted by munro and was very useful to understand these blessed limiters smoke,then smoke limiter ok,turbo pressure ok,the map pedal ok until we here the advances them jump now to conclude I remain, these three torque limiters,as you think?they all seem to be three of the same,place a screen..thanks
my friend...the ecm, and maps the actual file ecu are the devil ? the holy water...it's not? if you follow me....
based on what you have learned up to now, I ask you:on the lim flue gas=injection zoned as l? call ecm (murt alientech)and about the sw you f? see ? on the basis of what you have learned(I hope very much this far) how to modify it?...if you answer me correctly....I swear that I donate a testicle and l? confeziono as a sacred relic sacrificed to the God of speed?....
cinqueturbo
06-12-2012, 02:01
my friend...the ecm, and maps the actual file ecu are the devil ? the holy water...it's not? if you follow me....
based on what you have learned up to now, I ask you:on the lim flue gas=injection zoned as l? call ecm (murt alientech)and about the sw you f? see ? on the basis of what you have learned(I hope very much this far) how to modify it?...if you answer me correctly....I swear that I donate a testicle and l? confeziono as a sacred relic sacrificed to the God of speed?....
I swear that was a life that I was crying from laughing!!
you're strong, munro!!! :D
msport (exil77grande)
06-12-2012, 15:44
msport, but you control only me?? I stay with the breath on his neck for something that I should not do?? frankly, the post in question deleted because it does not reflect my way of being...if I have helped up to now will continue? to do if the riterr? should be...then if I somehow I got it wrong, take the appropriate action...I always said I have no problems..unlike others who have major difficulties from the point of view that you know well I think....therefore you are? why not by a subsidiary also to others??
munro I control everything and everyone up to where I can the rest do giarras and admin nothing and no one except,I don't think I strarti with the breath on his neck and towel I dimsostrato leaving to run a fairly serious not want to delve into and that we have already made clear privately,the message I was about eliminating because of this only causes confusion and the bed,since it's a reasoning that you have written publicly absolutely wrong you've invoked,but if is not a reflection of your way to be I don't see why you wrote that,by now disable the function to edit and delete messages so before you write you think about it.
alfetta80
06-12-2012, 20:21
my friend...the ecm, and maps the actual file ecu are the devil ? the holy water...it's not? if you follow me....
based on what you have learned up to now, I ask you:on the lim flue gas=injection zoned as l? call ecm (murt alientech)and about the sw you f? see ? on the basis of what you have learned(I hope very much this far) how to modify it?...if you answer me correctly....I swear that I donate a testicle and l? confeziono as a sacred relic sacrificed to the God of speed?....
by munro for so little it's not worth then after how do you!!!!haha
the talk then from what I understand it is this:the iniezzione zoned or smoke limiter and limiter IQ=quantity of fuel injected for each cycle,the ecu based on engine speed (rpm)and the amount of intake air decides the quantity of fuel to be injected,listing of resources-axis should be such that' find the number of revolutions of the engine, the quantity of sucked air and the resulting' IQ..example:to 3000rpm with 900mg of sucked air, the ecu knows that he has to inject 50mg if I lift type 60 with the same amount of air changes the AFR and the car smokes, then there are all the beautiful formulas in the link that I have recommended and is explained very well,now comes the fun part, and here munro you may be without attributes ahahaha......ecm but do not know for what reason but the right axis we find the engine rpm and the load from 0 to 100, and the resultant is the IQ,now as a reason!?then since ecm is not from the exhaust air, but the load I would put up the IQ only in the case of the most high, and where the loads or increased pressure turbo in order to have in those regimes are more diesel but the maximum air intake and at the same time compressed air!!!!!!!promoted???or rejected???
let's say that, for me, you returned in a matter.....but promoted to full marks in all the other.....what I wanted to let you know,sacrificing my testicle, fortunately, the exception,was that because the ecm does not by quantity? air moddare lim fumes with this sw without smoke the car virtually impossible ? the proof of what I say ? quoting what you said....I quote:"given that the ecm is not from the intake air but the load I would put up the IQ only in the loads high and where loads or also increase the turbo pressure so to have on those regimes are more diesel but the maximum intake of air and at the same time, the more compressed air" how can you understand to give an increase in "the carlona" hoping that the turbo in those fangenti do not smoke the car does not ? a nice way to moddare a file besides this your reasoning, can you? apply only to the lim fumes in the function of the map turbo but in the function of the maf increase to ****loo k at some schemes that you can't? do....or rather you can but the result will not be never ever proper for the purposes of calculating AFR....
dvdtuning
07-12-2012, 21:33
Munro then you might like to moddare based on the maf?
in the link that I posted to c'? a nice discussion in which you talk about...what ? the correctly of moddare a smoke limiter maf based....
I swear that was a life that I was crying from laughing!!
you're strong, munro!!! :D
mmm and that sometimes I want to be dramatic but instead comes out the most comic of me.....sar? also for the fact that I love the human race.....
Hello cinqueturbo!! also you're the leg!!!;)
dott.chem
09-12-2012, 16:25
I confirm that I have maps of advance map 1 and map 2, and also the boost x rpm
Forgive me if I correct myself, ? the right to correctness of information. Those are not maps advance, but duration of injection.
alfetta80
10-12-2012, 08:43
let's say that, for me, you returned in a matter.....but promoted to full marks in all the other.....what I wanted to let you know,sacrificing my testicle, fortunately, the exception,was that because the ecm does not by quantity? air moddare lim fumes with this sw without smoke the car virtually impossible ? the proof of what I say ? quoting what you said....I quote:"given that the ecm is not from the intake air but the load I would put up the IQ only in the loads high and where loads or also increase the turbo pressure so to have on those regimes are more diesel but the maximum intake of air and at the same time, the more compressed air" how can you understand to give an increase in "the carlona" hoping that the turbo in those fangenti do not smoke the car does not ? a nice way to moddare a file besides this your reasoning, can you? apply only to the lim fumes in the function of the map turbo but in the function of the maf increase to ****loo k at some schemes that you can't? do....or rather you can but the result will not be never ever proper for the purposes of calculating AFR....
hello munro!!
then you having only the ecm sw what would you do?the lasceresti ori??
another thing you said that on the edc5p there are two maps of the flue gas based on the pressure turbo based on the maf but with the ecm, however, shows a' just right?
alfetta80
10-12-2012, 09:03
Forgive me if I correct myself, ? the right to correctness of information. Those are not maps advance, but duration of injection.
guys do not confuse what is the ridp the right one dvdtuning or dr. chem??
dvdtuning
10-12-2012, 09:57
To me, seem to be maps in advance, looking forward to confirmation by the gurus!
alfetta me the complete number of the file to the ecu??from the file you posted I can't seem to pull it out.....
*dvdtuning:the injector pump opens and closes the flow of diesel always in relation to the tdc angle-degrees?....
if you look closely at the file there are 9-10 maps of this type that seem advance payments but they refer to the duration from when it opens to when it closes the injector...then the only advance in pd has "dual function" and the classic the beginning of the injection, but at the same time if for example you anticipate you to also total duration of the opening of that? most diesel.....
and as if they were of the injection times..but in degrees....
alfetta80
10-12-2012, 19:52
alfetta me the complete number of the file to the ecu??from the file you posted I can't seem to pull it out.....
*dvdtuning:the injector pump opens and closes the flow of diesel always in relation to the tdc angle-degrees?....
if you look closely at the file there are 9-10 maps of this type that seem advance payments but they refer to the duration from when it opens to when it closes the injector...then the only advance in pd has "dual function" and the classic the beginning of the injection, but at the same time if for example you anticipate you to also total duration of the opening of that? most diesel.....
and as if they were of the injection times..but in degrees....
hello munro!!
golf 4 1900 tdi 101cv edc15p 6632609 okay this??or you need something else?
I need the number sw complete that for example you by titanium when you upload the file....and what you gave me??
I don't think it should be longer and with some letter in the middle of the numbers, for example:976453C68....just for the fates to understand...me, from which I want to check one thing...
alfetta80
10-12-2012, 20:33
it should be this:G6632609.... why how much load the file I G663_609 golf4 1900 101cv bosch edc15p 6632609
msport (exil77grande)
10-12-2012, 20:38
hw 0281010663
sw 1037362609
alfetta80
10-12-2012, 20:39
hw 0281010663
sw 1037362609
thanks msport!!!..
alfetta80
10-12-2012, 20:48
but on the map the pedal and on the limiter fumes IQ are already in mg?? or are in mm3?
alfetta80
12-12-2012, 13:00
are mg/i...
thanks munro!!
for torque limiters can someone give me an idea of how to think ??there are three limiters all three the same!!I don't like to copy, and just to at least understand a little bit!!another thing with mppsv5 there are problems to write on this edc15p101cv??thanks?
I usually respect the percentage of the difference in gold between the driver's wish and lim torque....then if I raise the DW of 15% at a point in the lim torque alzero the request is not in the function of the 15% most of the increase in DW but always in respect of the difference that has given the manufacturer between the two based on the new "request"...
frantik3
12-12-2012, 18:58
but on the map the pedal and on the limiter fumes IQ are already in mg?? or are in mm3?
here's answered
frantik3
12-12-2012, 19:01
mg of the photos that I posted are too small when I attach
frantik3
12-12-2012, 19:07
I hope now you see
alfetta80
12-12-2012, 21:44
I usually respect the percentage of the difference in gold between the driver's wish and lim torque....then if I raise the DW of 15% at a point in the lim torque alzero the request is not in the function of the 15% most of the increase in DW but always in respect of the difference that has given the manufacturer between the two based on the new "request"...
in practice, if the ori in dw I find it to 2500 rpm 50.00 mg of diesel oil in the torque limiter can't find 44.00, if the increase from 50 to 60 in the limiter'll put' 54??or do you understand??
alfetta80
12-12-2012, 21:46
I hope now you see
you can see very well, thanks!mache program do you use?
frantik3
13-12-2012, 12:22
a program to edit the vag group
the program is called vag suite....it is free on the web
alfetta80
13-12-2012, 17:35
the program is called vag suite....it is free on the web
ok as soon as I can I give him a look...
munro the answer that I gave you right??
you say you..but I repeat that ? a way to moddare...c'? there are a multitude?...
alfetta80
14-12-2012, 11:24
so guys the link posted by munro and was very useful to understand these blessed limiters smoke,then smoke limiter ok,turbo pressure ok,the map pedal ok until we here the advances them jump now to conclude I remain, these three torque limiters,as you think?they all seem to be three of the same,place a screen..thanks
File Attachments File Attachments
File type: rar Immagine.rar (59.2
these three limiters that are in the screen, all three are identical and all of the fuel to the turbine shaft and' out of the right driver?by analyzing some of the map is made, and even that of dvdtuning ,these three limiters are modified in the same way, why?concerning these three limiters?,another thing if the limiter ori is always the lowest on the map at the end it would be enough to raise only the limiters to have already some results in the most right?
alfetta80
16-12-2012, 19:26
File Attachments File Attachments
File type: rar Immagine.rar (59.2
these three limiters that are in the screen, all three are identical and all of the fuel to the turbine shaft and' out of the right driver?by analyzing some of the map is made, and even that of dvdtuning ,these three limiters are modified in the same way, why?concerning these three limiters?,another thing if the limiter ori is always the lowest on the map at the end it would be enough to raise only the limiters to have already some results in the most right?
guys any info!????????????
maybe I'm a p? engaged....wait-a-p? you'll see that you help...
alfetta80
17-12-2012, 08:14
maybe I'm a p? engaged....wait-a-p? you'll see that you help...
it is quiet munro, thanks!!
not c'? ch?.....I am so quiet that a sloth in comparison would seem to be made of amphetamines.....
alfetta80
17-12-2012, 20:37
not c'? ch?.....I am so quiet that a sloth in comparison would seem to be made of amphetamines.....
"quiet"... and is only a manner of speaking!!!munro you can't tell me nothing about what I wrote???if you increase only the limiters I have already some results??they saw that the eyes of the tolerances are pretty..
alfetta, I can tell you all what you want but I would like that others would say their...senn? it seems almost a monologue, if I write only I...***** o you can try it..put the file ori ecu with only the lim couple mddati and see "the effect of f?"....by the way, you with the car??
Chris156
17-12-2012, 21:13
for coincidence? I found this discussion!!! it would have been better not to put it in the maps joke.. I gave it a quick read, doesn't it ? you can enter here the file ori and mod? so not around all the pages.
Anyway in these ecu, you decide the angle of injection. you have to tell you when to open the injector and when to close it.
alfetta80
17-12-2012, 21:37
for coincidence? I found this discussion!!! it would have been better not to put it in the maps joke.. I gave it a quick read, doesn't it ? you can enter here the file ori and mod? so not around all the pages.
Anyway in these ecu, you decide the angle of injection. you have to tell you when to open the injector and when to close it.
hello chris156 in that sense I don't understand?!!anyway, I put the files then golf iv mod was what it was, instead, golf iv 1.9 tdi fab mod I made I and what should I put...
alfetta80
17-12-2012, 21:46
alfetta, I can tell you all what you want but I would like that others would say their...senn? it seems almost a monologue, if I write only I...***** o you can try it..put the file ori ecu with only the lim couple mddati and see "the effect of f?"....by the way, you with the car??
just a moment of time to do a bit of testing,the file did it I just write as soon as you calm down a little of the water that I'm the period, and a mess of me I can bring the car and we see that it came out...however the file has been modified, but still so many things I can not give it a logic, there are too many things and I or just time on the day I am always at work in the evening once a thing once and another one, or a very short time boo we see a little....
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