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Gianpy80
17-11-2012, 10:37
Hello guys.. just joined and already? I'm asking for advice on a map that I st? by becoming a fool for quite a while..

I'll post the map ori, and the most recent mod I have done ... give Me some advice on where I'm wrong or if I got it all wrong :)

Gianpy80
19-11-2012, 15:16
no one? :(
precise that I don't want to make the map.. I have also posted my mod.. I just want someone to explain to me where and how I have to go to act to make better the turbine that we have assembled, and as an individual area of the EGR..

msport (exil77grande)
19-11-2012, 23:21
no one? :(
precise that I don't want to make the map.. I have also posted my mod.. I just want someone to explain to me where and how I have to go to act to make better the turbine that we have assembled, and as an individual area of the EGR..


tomorrow I'll take a look and tell you.

Gianpy80
20-11-2012, 07:51
tomorrow I'll take a look and tell you.

Thanksss :)

msport (exil77grande)
20-11-2012, 13:30
hello,I just had a look at the map,then I don't know if there turns with the map, or if you have tried but I tell you not to try it or to remove it immediately why do some serious damage here is not about some kind of error but it is all completely wrong and changed tremendously and I'm saying,also the torque limiters are also mmostruoi but in the negative, I repeat like a brother to return it immediately ori and talk to a professional because no offense this map is made by those who do not understand, for nothing.

Gianpy80
20-11-2012, 14:02
I know that I have zipped the mod wrong.. I did so many tests... Tonight I turn on the laptop and place that is currently loaded. However, leaving aside that this is only a test (limiters knew it, but don't ask me why? but in the negative were best, then I have them reset ori) about what percentage I could push on in. Prov. and press turbo? I have to say that not so? idiots., of the machines I have
mapped but this part of the turbine, a different gi? from new not ? never went well..

magi1984
20-11-2012, 14:44
I think it is better that you post the correct file before to give you any opinion or advice on the mapping

msport (exil77grande)
20-11-2012, 14:49
I understand that you have done many tests but I do not understand that the test would be to decrease of up to 100% of the torque limiter or increasing something like 4600 points, the pressure of the turbo,however, e-mail, to the present, we see them as you put it.

Gianpy80
30-11-2012, 14:07
4600 points? no, there must be a misunderstanding.. maybe 460.. I have used the ecm 2001. The question of the torque limiters don't ask me why? but it seemed to work to the contrary, that's why? in this map, I had them lowered..

msport (exil77grande)
30-11-2012, 19:31
4600 points? no, there must be a misunderstanding.. maybe 460.. I have used the ecm 2001. The question of the torque limiters don't ask me why? but it seemed to work to the contrary, that's why? in this map, I had them lowered..

watch right from your friend that map to an immediate stop.

Gianpy80
01-12-2012, 09:11
so.. forget about the map, why? as a gi? said ? only one of the numerous tests "desperate" I have done ...
this ? the one you have now ? loaded.
Tell me where do you think I should act to make it push a p? pi?.
For the EGR I know that I must act on the map "injection phase", but once you open this map in 2d where I have to reset to delete the EGR? (mechanically ? gi? removed).

mcjtd
01-12-2012, 11:15
the egr does not close by "injection phase" (the name of the poop for a management egr) but from the controls...
on the forum I have seen that c'? a nice guide for the closing of a beautiful p? these valves inzozzatrici engines...
but I s? you still there, you can access to see her...

Gianpy80
01-12-2012, 12:09

mcjtd
01-12-2012, 12:22
but that unit fits this car? a edc16u31?

Gianpy80
01-12-2012, 12:34
is exact because

Gianpy80
04-12-2012, 11:15

magi1984
04-12-2012, 11:42
I don't understand with that policy you have changed the maps in the ecm calls injection zoned map1, map2 and boost per rpm, explain it to me?

in the enrichment and acceleration you have changed the areas that, in my opinion, they should be left original, the cio? under 1000rpm and 50% load
does not make sense to change to 400 or 700 rpm, starting from zero % of the load, and the car is not going to 700giri even when ? to a minimum

the turbo pressure is fine but you should also change the maps in the ecm called turbo pressure f.temp in the same way
ditto for the limiter, if you increase the turbo pressure must also increase the pressure limiters turbo

torque limiters are totally cannati, you have given an increase ranging from 2%to 5%

Gianpy80
04-12-2012, 13:55
I don't understand with that policy you have changed the maps in the ecm calls injection zoned map1, map2 and boost per rpm, explain it to me?

in the enrichment and acceleration you have changed the areas that, in my opinion, they should be left original, the cio? under 1000rpm and 50% load
does not make sense to change to 400 or 700 rpm, starting from zero % of the load, and the car is not going to 700giri even when ? to a minimum

the turbo pressure is fine but you should also change the maps in the ecm called turbo pressure f.temp in the same way
ditto for the limiter, if you increase the turbo pressure must also increase the pressure limiters turbo

torque limiters are totally cannati, you have given an increase ranging from 2%to 5%


thank you so much.. you have been very clear... now I try to change it as I have suggested and try..
For the EGR-c'? a map that you have to carry them all to 0 right? or do I have to do it for strength in 2d?

magi1984
04-12-2012, 14:40
for the egr you have to do it in 2D, there are the screen how to do it in the appropriate sections of the forum, which you will see once you reach the minimum quota of messages

Gianpy80
05-12-2012, 08:27
for the egr you have to do it in 2D, there are the screen how to do it in the appropriate sections of the forum, which you will see once you reach the minimum quota of messages

ah ok, then it looks..
today, if I have a second I try to change the map of the A3 with your advice..
Yesterday I spent the whole afternoon trying to do the luca stanca an A6 that you just do not want to know.. luckily there were msport and the admin who helped me otherwise I would still?..

Gianpy80
05-12-2012, 12:17
ok the map be modified in accordance with your advice... I also fixed the first (iniez. prov.)..
If you want buttaci an eye..
For the EGR I went to see the help and the screen, but EDC16U31 not c'?.. should have 4 cakes to bring to 0 as I understand, but I can not find.. c'? one way in particular?

Gianpy80
05-12-2012, 12:25
oh I forgot.. the method I used interpolation... I discovered it recently and ? really comfortable.. in ecm2001 was not there..

msport (exil77grande)
05-12-2012, 12:40
oh I forgot.. the method I used interpolation... I discovered it recently and ? really comfortable.. in ecm2001 was not there..

there was also in the ecm,for the guide that you will find here on the 2 message https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?29-esempi-di-eliminazione-valvola-egr-gruppo-bosch-edc16
just select the start and end of the 2 panettone and click on the m lower-case,if the file and 2m it should be 4 and still as a reference you have to scroll in 2d after the injection phase.

Gianpy80
05-12-2012, 13:06
ok, we should be... for me? I only found the ones for the screen (one small and 2 large) and I've taken them to 0..
I put the link of the mod...
the big ones are starting to address 1C9DB8, the small 1C9CC6...

Gianpy80
05-12-2012, 13:13
edit...
I found the other 2 panettone large and a small one at the address 18B73A
this ? the mod..
It is closed now?

magi1984
05-12-2012, 14:31
c? a further map of enrichment and acceleration out of the driver at the address 1c3402
from the address 1eb766 and then there are the other two maps limiter turbo out driver
for the egr return the original to the address 18b854, thou hast cleared from that bit but ? wrong. ditto in the address 1c9db8 and 1c9de6

rest doubts about the percentage of increase date of injection zoned, map1, map2, and boost x rpm why? according to me ? too high as the increment.
however, on the whole, the map pu? go, system errors on the egr and give it a try and see how it goes in the machine

Gianpy80
06-12-2012, 13:37
Ok, I did the changes I have indicated, and I have uploaded... now the car drives really well...
For the EGR I have connected the diagnosis and the percentage of "duty cycle EGR" ? fixed at 95%, while the first ranged ? just so??
As soon as I have a moment I try to edit those maps out of the driver that have marked out for me.. Anyway thanks for everything, you've been very kind..

puntospeed1.3
09-12-2012, 16:36
hello to all. I have to say that I still can't view the map in question,
but on these cars are exactly what manages the map map1? I had read around that ? a map lambda..
and map2 seems to be a map of injection duration as well as the boost x rpm. Now between these 2 what? the difference? it may be that map2 is a duration limiter?

Gianpy80
10-12-2012, 07:37
but what map1 do you mean? injection choked? in this case it is the map of fumes or limiter fumosit?...

jolidj
10-12-2012, 12:55
no you can take into account the names of the data from the ecm , you have to first know the real name of the map, or use a language that you understand.
ecm is not used after you understand that nn is as driver. use titanium, already goes better. the maps from the tap are, pedal, torque limiter, and the timing of fuel injection ( diesel ) , turbo pressure, lim pressure turbo and that's it.
you enough to make a change. I can still download if not I gave the address and how much to increase.
the classic rise and 1500 rpm and 50% load.
good job.

puntospeed1.3
10-12-2012, 16:04
the names from the ecm are known to be bizarre.
however, in summary.
-injection zoned on EDC16 would be the smoke map described by the axes: air mass(map) /rpm, and z-axis IQ
-enrichment or acceleration demand torque in NM, limiter, torque it, too, in NM.
-then that's the turbo maps and related f.temperature change in eugual way, the limiter turbo and the svbl single value boost limiter cio? a position breakpoint set at 2620mbar.
-then there would be the SOI start of injection are different maps that are based on the temperature of the water.
-Then there are the durations of the fuel injection ecm are called injection parazializzato(map2) and the boost x rpm. I don't know how it acts in the first cio? the map 10x10 from boostxrpm ; both are converted in degrees. perhaps map2 as called ecm ? a limiter boostxrpm. this ? to verify from the logs with the vag com.
while injection zoned(map1) I don't know cos'?. I was reading a map lambda described by rpm/kpascal at the end to to do with a limitation of smoke. boh.

franco75
10-12-2012, 22:38
I had a look, there should be an error in the torque limiter to the address 1d4714, cala sharply over the original.
The map to the 1d68b8 should not be a map of the lambda?

puntospeed1.3
10-12-2012, 22:53
actually, many people say. even those who have had the opportunity to watch the damos. but how does it work?

jolidj
11-12-2012, 00:22
nn you are embarrassed with the translation from the ecm to reality. the maps from the tap and how to do it I have written above . make a draft and put it , even if I can download the file.
anyway, this violates our rules

franco75
11-12-2012, 02:57
actually, many people say. even those who have had the opportunity to watch the damos. but how does it work?

I never understood, would be the first indicated by puntospeed1.3 :
"injection, split on EDC16 would be the smoke map described by the axes: air mass(map) /rpm, and z-axis IQ"

msport (exil77grande)
11-12-2012, 08:41
nn you are embarrassed with the translation from the ecm to reality. the maps from the tap and how to do it I have written above . make a draft and put it , even if I can download the file.
anyway, this violates our rules

jolidi thanks for your availability, but according to the rules the things of the forum should be made on the forum and not in private, and if you still don't have privileges to download attachments, it does not mean that someone towels to be sent via *****if you continue to attend the forum in short you reach the threshold of 50 messages and you can also participate in a complete manner.

jolidj
11-12-2012, 15:53
surely , it was only to complete my dispo. so the results for the force were updated on the forum , posting my work from those who can.
but, anyway regulations are made to comply with them.

puntospeed1.3
11-12-2012, 15:56
I said this map here, there are 3 uguali2008

munro
12-12-2012, 00:34
should be of the smoke limiter maps fumes or maps of lambda is that to say it wants...you just have to make sure if they are on the basis of maf or map sensor the cio? mass air flow sensor or turbo pressure sensor reported in one of the axes...***** and I always say they are maps that will change the calculator to the hand....because if you do the math and divide the values ori maf and IQ between them you will notice that you will always have a unique number, usually 17.5 this number ? the afr that is, the relation between air mass ? iq diesel....

franco75
12-12-2012, 12:29
so it should be edited down to the relationship you want?

munro
12-12-2012, 13:39
it is one of the ways, and to "lower" the afr alzandl the iq in the map logically....without exaggeration..otherwise the car could smoke....another way, and to change the values in the axes of the values mf-map......

puntospeed1.3
12-12-2012, 18:37
should be of the smoke limiter maps fumes or maps of lambda is that to say it wants...you just have to make sure if they are on the basis of maf or map sensor the cio? mass air flow sensor or turbo pressure sensor reported in one of the axes...***** and I always say they are maps that will change the calculator to the hand....because if you do the math and divide the values ori maf and IQ between them you will notice that you will always have a unique number, usually 17.5 this number ? the afr that is, the relation between air mass ? iq diesel....

in fact, doing a calculation with the original values between this map and the injection zoned IQ back to me the value 17.5 17.4 17.6 ...etc in the values of the full load in the range of power and torque. then, on the 4500 5000 becomes more lean, as in the loads, partial.
then the question arises:
? better to lower the lambda, or raise the IQ ? or both

munro
14-12-2012, 13:37
puntospeed if you raise the iq of the lambda automatically lowers...the same air and more fuel = lambda AFR bottom...
from personal experience I can tell you that in the engines vag pd, the maximum limit for non-smoking and 16-16,5:1.....then, you can do various tests, starting perhaps with a map "fixed" all 17:1 and try the car...remember? that these maps are always limiting diesel if from the pedal to the es request 60mg and in the lambda, the maximum value of iq and 54mg...the car does not inietter? never the 60 required...

puntospeed1.3
14-12-2012, 15:44
? a edc16, then from the pedal I will request torque in NM. Then , on iniez zoned or with the name of his smoke map, settero' the mg to be injected ricalibrando times in the maps duration, finally adeguero the torque limiter reflected also in NM.

munro
14-12-2012, 16:09
you forget about the map conversion nm to iq....I know that the DW and TL are in nm...but to each nm will match? always a certain iq.....but, if you know what you do I apologize..continue what you are doing....

puntospeed1.3
14-12-2012, 16:41
you excuse? it was a thought that I I did that.
I know of the existence of this map conversion, but currently I don't know more.
I have to look better or if you want to give me some clue.

lupak
15-12-2012, 16:22
Have a look here : https://www.professionalchiptuning.net/showthread.php?836-Step-By-Step-Fiat-Bravo-1-9-Mjtd-120Cv/page7