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tronic
10-11-2012, 22:35
this week I had to retake two units lancia musa because it locked in scrittua by mmps you know something about
thanks

magi1984
11-11-2012, 00:28
give us more? info, you read it with mpps and locked in scripture?
have you tried to write with mpps read files with other tools?

giarras
11-11-2012, 00:40
strange mpps writes well of this car, if it was the 90 hp, you had to cut the file to 1 mb xch? nn you could read it.

tronic
11-11-2012, 09:40
they brought me the ecu and I have shot with the BDM and I found the e2p changed.
and was always read with mpps

alex68
11-11-2012, 09:55
strange, even to me x mpps writes well this car.

tronic
11-11-2012, 10:21
I don't know what to say and 2, the case in a few days, however, verifichero personally .
thanks

zioweb
11-11-2012, 14:52
I appended to this "thing" weird. on ypsilon, same problem.
you ? write locked with mpps v12 I guess, but what's the point of writing, you know? has finished it and ? dead or in while writing?

The e2prom that you have read and you have found amended, have you compared it with the backup from the bdm?

I have noticed a strange thing: the reading from the MPPS has read correctly, the area of the map, but from the met? the file then was "empty", without values.
cutting the file backuppato from 2mb to 1mb I have compared it with the reading from mpps and show that from the met? file in then to cut it ? "consistent" what? there are values, curves, and more.

I would not like that with the last software update (this I say has an update of September 2012) have introduced something that in reading casino with the mpps, which passes an incomplete file, such as to justify, then the write lock...

it was a long time that I made a ecu and Friday to give a "little lick" to a ypsilon mjet 6f3 90hp, I found it locked. Tralaltro ? also a spansion...

however, if the ecu responds to the ecu id of the mpps v12, you can retrieve it easily by shooting him in the split file from the backup 2mb of flash, without the checksum or the other.

tronic
11-11-2012, 20:35
unfortunately the unit had not been read with bdm but with mmps and then I can not say I had to take a e2p from the backup that I had, and I riverginata.
I don't know manco with which version mpps have read I documentero' on
hello

zioweb
11-11-2012, 23:53
Made to give the file read with mpps and compare it with the back up ;)

tronic
12-11-2012, 08:18
as I look for the links you do' know
hello

abberello
17-11-2012, 11:22
and caricargli an original file? Not to be?

Gianpy80
17-11-2012, 11:28
for? this would be an explanation of why the file that reads them rewrites but not writes to, then the mod as happened to me and someone else that I have read on the forum. You just need to understand why? not law the complete file..
P.S.: I had the same problem with the v13.02

tronic
17-11-2012, 12:06
the problem with not identify it more so that you can not upload any file to the original

tronic
17-11-2012, 12:12
from what I understand only change the e2p because it loaded a backup is complete, the machine would not start, I had to put a serial port of a backup that I had, and riverginarlo

abberello
17-11-2012, 12:25
as a rule the mmps v12 should not upload the original file even if you ? blocked something?

tronic
17-11-2012, 13:22
next to the lighthouse I directly, and then let you know

abberello
19-11-2012, 16:55
Have you tried to do a recovery? I would not like it was a problem of cable

tronic
19-11-2012, 17:10
you could do the operation without turning off the picture, but I repeat, I did it myself

Ross
20-11-2012, 21:34
A tip: when you write with mpps, or other interface, it is convenient to select "only", so not going to affect the areas of the identification ecu.

tronic
21-11-2012, 08:19
Many interfaces even if you only select data reads everything and vice versa in writing when munro refers to the spansion, and I agree with

zioweb
21-11-2012, 09:29
make sure that the type of eprom and with the ecu if ? a spansion mpps won't read the write only if ? motorola mpps the reads and writes quietly....

In that sense it's not the law? You create a file in the wrong, empty or just not reading?

tronic
21-11-2012, 12:20
not reading

Ross
21-11-2012, 12:33
Many interfaces even if you only select data reads everything and vice versa in writing when munro refers to the spansion, and I agree with

Depends on the ecu. Here's an example: with magpro, if you select "all" to read and write a edc16c8, the sw plant. Instead, with the check on the "only", not only the flash is read completely, but in a manner that is complete, that is, how does the bdm.

zioweb
21-11-2012, 14:45
not reading

I do not agree, I read a 1.3 mjet with chip spansion correctly. the problem I had in writing.
possibly the file not read ? correct.

msport (exil77grande)
21-11-2012, 14:49
I do not agree, I read a 1.3 mjet with chip spansion correctly. the problem I had in writing.
possibly the file not read ? correct.

exact law, but writes the spansion then the read file was corrupted.

tronic
21-11-2012, 14:52
zioweb you can post the file to the bed of the spansion I sambra a bit strange, might not have read anything at least I think correct me if I'm wrong

zioweb
21-11-2012, 22:59
zioweb you can post the file to the bed of the spansion I sambra a bit strange, might not have read anything at least I think correct me if I'm wrong

Tomorrow I'll post it. It was also consistent, with the maps and everything.

abberello
22-11-2012, 00:00
so if y momo 1.3 mjet 105 hp to have the original map should I do only read the data... why? I tried with read all and me ? released a file of 400 kb!!! But basically that diggerenza passes between a read everything and read only data?

munro
22-11-2012, 00:56
you should ensure that the chip mounts..? a spansion will not read it with mpps but only in bdm or equipment official type kessv2...
to write it instead mpps writes it to work, cutting the file to 1mb...

sportknight
25-01-2013, 12:08
guys,I write qu? why? ? always a the 1.3 multijet but ? an opel meriva
the control unit must be must a marelli or it may also be bosch?
in both cases, there are problems in reading and writing?
I have the mpps v5 so I don't know if compared to the v12 is missing the protocols

nuovaecu
25-01-2013, 13:18
happened to me and that hangs in writing maybe lucky and try again to write and rewrite perfectly mpps me not to ever given me problems

Ross
25-01-2013, 13:58
1.3 mjet not exist bosch

sportknight
25-01-2013, 15:20
to behold, I had a agila 2005,not a meriva :)
today I disassembled the unit and see that the num hw-soft ?
the reading does not make sure the mpps? and the writing on the opel as if the quarry, the mpps?

admin
25-01-2013, 16:26
1.3 mjet not exist bosch

The latest models 1.3 mj are edc17

Ross
25-01-2013, 21:51
Of course, I meant the"time" feasible with mpps v5/v12

cicciogsr
20-02-2013, 19:46
guys yesterday with mpps v12 are not able to write a muse 90hp gave me ecu data I try file ori cut the mod I try to write to me and tells me encrypted file in the file ? 03T-M368 what could be the problem?

maxsek
20-02-2013, 20:47
The latest models 1.3 mj are edc17

edc17????never seen......marelli 8df...

giarras
20-02-2013, 20:56
edc17????never seen......marelli 8df...

also edc17 new models.

Ross
20-02-2013, 21:03
you are mostly on the Opel edc17 1.3

explode82
20-02-2013, 23:56
you are mostly on the Opel edc17 1.3

there are only about opel,fiat group no

sportknight
21-02-2013, 00:06
guys yesterday with mpps v12 are not able to write a muse 90hp gave me ecu data I try file ori cut the mod I try to write to me and tells me encrypted file in the file ? 03T-M368 what could be the problem?

do not do it with the mpps,the do, or with bdm or I read somewhere with the kess v2 clone

carlo abarth
21-02-2013, 00:33
I especially if the 90 hp always bdm for that which the law l mpps does not read a blowjob!!

cicciogsr
21-02-2013, 07:52
ok for? ? very strange

zioweb
21-02-2013, 09:21
With mpps v12 is how.
Very strange that says "encrypted". Sure you cut well?

sportknight
21-02-2013, 09:28
the file ? by 448kb?

cicciogsr
21-02-2013, 11:21
well cut and I have also tried to fix the chk upstream for curiosity? place the two files ori cut and not.... maybe I was wrong to cut it for me... you should write mpps can consider the k-line

sportknight
21-02-2013, 11:32
is a can protocol and do ecu data

mattycar
21-02-2013, 16:33
well cut and I have also tried to fix the chk upstream for curiosity? place the two files ori cut and not.... maybe I was wrong to cut it for me... you should write mpps can consider the k-line
to me it seems to cut well,but with mpps the last I see,I tried to read it, and had saved a file of a few kb unusable.you should read it with the magpro or with wing nut for security.the mag save the ori from 2 mb, and the mpc 512 kb

motorsport
21-02-2013, 17:46
I have made these in the bdm....

mattycar
21-02-2013, 19:45
You with bdm you ? pi? quiet.

zioweb
05-03-2013, 00:28
New evidence of mpps v12 for the 6f3 lancia ypsilon: read without problems, and file from 1mb... write always crashes in the same way, to 52%. Try to avoid them.

The cock instead perfect in serial... Just very slow...

explode82
05-03-2013, 01:00
the v12 ? note for the small problems on the 6f3,sometimes you have to try 7-8volte to make it write,even if it is with the rooster do not have problems

zioweb
05-03-2013, 06:37
This time I have lost a lot of time.
My impression, having regard to the tests done the previous time, not ? much of attempts to do, but that the protocol is incasina in something with the file.
Previously guarded the ecu with the original read by the magpro and cut to 1mb.
That file them wrote it without problems every time the sparavi.
The modificavi, nothing to do: 52% blocked.

To look at the file that is read by mpps from 1mb and cut derived from 2mb you will notice the difference in the second half? of the file, where the read with mpps was practically empty, while the other with data.
This time I had read with galletto and prepared the file to 1mb, but bench? a comparison of the story was the same, that is, from the second half? there were data, not written by sticking always to 52%.

Sin why? the 12 taken to the spear with 6f3.
It would also be fast...
Maybe the later versions have changed something. Would try.

pitty
22-05-2013, 15:20
but boys instead? with mpps you could write without problems with other tools such as a Gallo2?

zioweb
22-05-2013, 16:48
but boys instead? with mpps you could write without problems with other tools such as a Gallo2?

You without problems. :)

oakley1
22-05-2013, 17:29
First of all, he was a 70cv? 75 or 90? The 70 read with mpps, but the 75 and the 90 and 105 law is but a wrong file.. So, or read the bdm otherwise you can find the original files, but I recommend the first.

zioweb
22-05-2013, 18:19
First of all, he was a 70cv? 75 or 90? The 70 read with mpps, but the 75 and the 90 and 105 law is but a wrong file.. So, or read the bdm otherwise you can find the original files, but I recommend the first.
:- D aridaje... With mpps v12 the file read ? right, it has a protocol specifically for 75,90 and 105.
The problem ? write, with the clones, there are problems of lock ecu.
With the original I don't know.
I don't have mpps v16 otherwise I would have tried that as well.

zioweb
22-05-2013, 18:21
I add: I 75hp with the v12 I read. In scripture has locked the ecu with the mod files and ori bed by mpps. I had to use a backup cut from the bdm, which was identical to the file that is read by mpps, maps and valued, but different in the final part.

zioweb
22-05-2013, 18:22
Of course, rewriting with mpps.

Sorry for so many messages but I do not understand why? for some time I f? edit my posts.

oakley1
22-05-2013, 18:42
There are clones and clones. I didn't know c'? mpps v12 read the flash of the marelli 75-90hp ... I've always written and never have problems.

cawadany
22-05-2013, 19:02
Mpps or not the law or the law of the wrong files, then ? as if not to be seen. Better to start with a file that is read with BDM.
The cock is the virtual read, and then reads the file that actually c'? on the ECU, but takes it from the internal database.

Dragonfly
22-05-2013, 19:15
But if the law in the virtual file go well anyway??

oakley1
22-05-2013, 19:17
.. In virtual law the
Database File of the programmer, for example, gallo v2.. Mpps the marelli 75-90 not the law or better reads a file is not good

zioweb
22-05-2013, 19:19
Mpps or not the law or the law of the wrong files, then ? as if not to be seen. Better to start with a file that is read with BDM.
The cock is the virtual read, and then reads the file that actually c'? on the ECU, but takes it from the internal database.
But why? write things that are not true?
The galletto v2 the law perfectly the 6f3 without the virtual read in the k line on the lancia ypsilon and musa.

oakley1
22-05-2013, 19:34
The 70 hp .... The 75 and 90 in virtual...

zioweb
22-05-2013, 19:47
The 70 hp .... The 75 and 90 in virtual...

The 75 and 90 is always in the k line, without the virtual Lancia

explode82
22-05-2013, 20:31
I prefer to do it with mpps v12 launches 75-90-105 cv because mpps has a protocol to read and write faster,the law in 20 minutes, and writes in about 8 minutes to the detriment of the original tools that I like the cock and kess v2 to read put us an hour and a half to write 50 minutes, I would say, far too many

garret
22-05-2013, 20:40
your mpps ? clone?

giannimini
20-01-2014, 02:51
The boys then mpps v12 goes well, or do I have for the muse 1:3, 90 hp, or you must open necessarily the ecu?

With the cock, however, via the serial connection, or you have to open anyway?

Why? I did not understand so much from these 7 pages :-)

zioweb
20-01-2014, 06:34
Why? you have misread or not you did the right thing :D :D

Mpps v12 is not good. The cock is.
Otherwise you can open it if you prefer and get her in the BDM

giannimini
20-01-2014, 21:37
Then the cock in serial without opening the ecu? While with mpps you must open it in the bdm procedure?

carlo abarth
20-01-2014, 21:43
the flaw in the bdm ..do it before!!!
The boys then mpps v12 goes well, or do I have for the muse 1:3, 90 hp, or you must open necessarily the ecu?

With the cock, however, via the serial connection, or you have to open anyway?

Why? I did not understand so much from these 7 pages :-)

giannimini
21-01-2014, 00:01
Ok I would explain how to make a bdm? :-)

anniver
03-04-2014, 01:10
But the 6f3 mpps not the law 500 and grandepunto

zioweb
03-04-2014, 08:32
But the 6f3 mpps not the law 500 and grandepunto

500 and grande punto no. Need BDM or the Cock that is.

anniver
04-04-2014, 00:53
There is no cablagio to open the control unit in order to succeed with mmpp and if I can find the file ori or fixed....

radd7
can anyone tell me something about the time it takes to write with mpps or kessv1 or magpro already having the file ori and the micro?

cinqueturbo
can anyone tell me something about the time it takes to write with mpps or kessv1 or magpro already having the file ori and the micro?

3 Minutes +-