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Ducati87
07-11-2012, 18:54
Hello guys, so I made changes to my original mapping by raising 10% of the injection partial and almost 30% of the torque limiter. The car responds very well to? I wanted an opinion from you.
You look
PS on changed I still have to delete the egr, if someone asked me to pu? do I would be grateful
P. P. S. as a driver, I used this: P13_AF8B ? correct?
fiat panda 1.3 mjet 70cv MJD6JFHW01B 1092S163
msport (exil77grande)
07-11-2012, 19:27
hello,first I ask you to write as much information as possible on the machine when you open a post, both in the title and in the name of the file posted,then to the egr valve we have a guide on the forum that you for the moment you cannot see and if you have read the rules, do you know why we do, however, here we try to help everyone but not with the jelly is ready (and then get the file to us), but giving any suggestions,let's move on to the map:
the driver you used goes well,the map that ecm calls injection zoned not in increments of 10%, but increases from 10% to 43% given in a way that is completely wrong for the other 2 maps that you touched on, and that those who ecm called the torque limiter, and are 2 of the same 30% increase as you say you have incrmenti from 10% to 221% and also here completely wrong as a modification and interpretation of the map,also lack several of the other maps.
Ducati87
07-11-2012, 21:19
hello thank you for response, I am not here to have the food ready, bens? to learn, but unfortunately, it is the policy of the forum does not allow me to follow guides of the basics to learn. That said, my changes have occurred as a result of reading on various forums and the thing that I felt I had to do was try. Below place the data on the drive and control unit:
Car: Panda 1.3 MJET 70CV 2006
Unit: NEVERTHELESS 6JF.S1/HW01B/1092-S163
5CZ-20F4G
This ? part of the symbols shown on the ecu. Keep in mind that I have not edited all the maps in the ecm takes me back but only the first that I displayed in the list.
hello thank you for response, I am not here to have the food ready, bens? to learn, but unfortunately, it is the policy of the forum does not allow me to follow guides of the basics to learn. That said, my changes have occurred as a result of reading on various forums and the thing that I felt I had to do was try. Below place the data on the drive and control unit:
Car: Panda 1.3 MJET 70CV 2006
Unit: NEVERTHELESS 6JF.S1/HW01B/1092-S163
5CZ-20F4G
This ? part of the symbols shown on the ecu. Keep in mind that I have not edited all the maps in the ecm takes me back but only the first that I displayed in the list.
hello ducati if you need the egr you the way I do it, of course I have to have your file hello
hello ducati if you need the egr you the way I do it, of course I have to have your file hello
six allows courteous! but it still could not download the file.
msport (exil77grande)
08-11-2012, 14:29
hello ducati if you need the egr you the way I do it, of course I have to have your file hello
As you pointed out giarras, thou, and he, you can download files from the forum, so what e-mail him, you do not see him, and vice versa if you have read the rules you know the reason,having said that if after you have started a thing on the forum, keep via private to me you have otherwise violated our rules, and you risk both the ban,apart from this if you read my response a little more? above I wrote that me and the other 100 users we could get him the file egr off, but the purpose of this forum is to have active users as attending the forum have always pi? privileges and can also see the various guides between which as well as how to exclude the egr on the 1.3 mjet then the forum wants to be a point of reference to share opinions,help and experience but not a place where you do work for free to the first one that happens,then the user when to be able to see the guide can only try to exclude e-mail the file ori and mod, and then we at that point we put him on the right path,I hope it is clear in my speech,good continuation.
As you pointed out giarras, thou, and he, you can download files from the forum, so what e-mail him, you do not see him, and vice versa if you have read the rules you know the reason,having said that if after you have started a thing on the forum, keep via private to me you have otherwise violated our rules, and you risk both the ban,apart from this if you read my response a little more? above I wrote that me and the other 100 users we could get him the file egr off, but the purpose of this forum is to have active users as attending the forum have always pi? privileges and can also see the various guides between which as well as how to exclude the egr on the 1.3 mjet then the forum wants to be a point of reference to share opinions,help and experience but not a place where you do work for free to the first one that happens,then the user when to be able to see the guide can only try to exclude e-mail the file ori and mod, and then we at that point we put him on the right path,I hope it is clear in my speech,good continuation.
yes, mine was just a post to help x the rest all ok bye
Ducati87
08-11-2012, 18:16
hello ducati if you need the egr you the way I do it, of course I have to have your file hello
As for the rest, I would like some clarification with regards to the maps. When I open the ecm by loading the driver and org, at the top they appear me the most? options as far as maps. The pull-down menu of the injection, there are two choices, and in the second 'c'? written also {MAP1} that I don't know what it wants to say, while in the menu "torque limiter" you have 3 different maps. Now how should I behave? What differ these maps? Thanks to all.
dvdtuning
08-11-2012, 18:51
The maps in the ecm calls injection zoned, etc. do not always correspond to a unique map, to recognize them you have to look at the map in 2d, and to know the form and the values of the curves.
msport (exil77grande)
08-11-2012, 20:43
As for the rest, I would like some clarification with regards to the maps. When I open the ecm by loading the driver and org, at the top they appear me the most? options as far as maps. The pull-down menu of the injection, there are two choices, and in the second 'c'? written also {MAP1} that I don't know what it wants to say, while in the menu "torque limiter" you have 3 different maps. Now how should I behave? What differ these maps? Thanks to all.
but you have not written that you didn't want the soup ready?
sorry dvdtuning I would tell you but none is a rebuke also because I am a beginner that 2d does not tell you that if map1 is needed for a particular function so according to me, put it in the confusion? however, are to serve for the entry diesel oil in the engine.
Ducati87
05-12-2012, 10:01
but you have not written that you didn't want the soup ready?
listen I don't want the meal ready for it? if I miss a information you can? then I really think that my topic here is totally useless. I'm not a magician and I want to do an experiment that can affect to my car, I'm here to ask for advice and to learn, but if I don't you can? 't even tell the difference between those three maps so I don't understand anything of this forum. thank you and I go on.
Gianpy80
05-12-2012, 10:18
ducati87 I assure you that is not ? cos?.. In this forum c'? a lot of people willing to help.. the staff for the first.. if you want a board catching fleas in the forum, is looking for a p? discussions that interest you and start to learn the basics.. when you get to 50 posts you can download the guide and begin to do the tests..
Ducati87
05-12-2012, 10:30
ducati87 I assure you that is not ? cos?.. In this forum c'? a lot of people willing to help.. the staff for the first.. if you want a board catching fleas in the forum, is looking for a p? discussions that interest you and start to learn the basics.. when you get to 50 posts you can download the guide and begin to do the tests..
msport (exil77grande)
05-12-2012, 10:50
perhaps you don't understand,then you open a post with a question, and I specifically answered what you asked, and not a little,then you are asked if you eliminate the egr valve and I answered that here there is the jelly is ready, but all the help that you need but the work you do with our aid,tips and guides that you still can't see, and you said there is no problem because I proceeded to let me do another one at this point if you tell me that you don't want the jelly is ready, because cloth did you make another? and all of this, what about el questions that you've done that you have responded?
magi1984
05-12-2012, 11:59
listen I don't want the meal ready for it? if I miss a information you can? then I really think that my topic here is totally useless. I'm not a magician and I want to do an experiment that can affect to my car, I'm here to ask for advice and to learn, but if I don't you can? 't even tell the difference between those three maps so I don't understand anything of this forum. thank you and I go on.
ok then,to make you understand a p? your map and give you the full info in the ecm titanium drivers for your map you have:
injection time that the ecm calls injection zoned
maps accelerator pedal that ecm's called torque limiter
torque limiter ecm called the torque limiter #2
torque limiter ecm called the torque limiter #3
out of the driver you have to the following address:
646a4: advance injection
6922c: limiter fumes
6967a: rail pressure
6957a: rail pressure limiter
69ac2: rail pressure limiter
62bb0: torque limiter
6add4: torque limiter
6adfc: torque limiter
6ae44: torque limiter
6ae5a: torque limiter
6ae94: torque limiter
now you have everything there? you need to map your car.
as you can see on this forum people are helped really, just have patience
cicciogsr
05-12-2012, 12:23
6922c: limiter fumes ? in the marelli s me? that ? pi? a lim of diesel not reported to the air flow rate measured
6922c, and a map of lambda for high Iq..at least that is called from winols....
in the axes X,Y, there are mg/stk MAf and RPM the descriptor ? the AFR and the conversion factor for this ? 0,001302
then
6957a ? the limiter rail as a function of boost turbo conversion factor for Z-axis=to 7.51...
69ac2 ? the limiter rail as a function of temp diesel
6AE94 ? the lim of torque as a function of temp diesel z-axis ? in NM, and the conversion factor ? 0,023438 comep er all other lim of the couple while in the Y-axis of this address, the temp should be converted to the factor 0,5...as well as all the other temp in the map...
in addition, there should also be a in lim torque as a function of temp engine 6BA3A if I'm not mistaken.....
magi1984
05-12-2012, 16:44
6922c: limiter fumes ? in the marelli s me? that ? pi? a lim of diesel not reported to the air flow rate measured
I call the map lambda limiter fumes
cicciogsr
05-12-2012, 17:08
I call the map lambda limiter fumes
ok have you figured out how to tap it? according to me you should honestly I never tried
magi1984
05-12-2012, 17:09
no, usually do not modify it never, map, lambda, and advance the injection not to touch them ever on these units, you don't need
xro you have not specified how many bits
you have not specified in bits
ok then,to make you understand a p? your map and give you the full info in the ecm titanium drivers for your map you have:
injection time that the ecm calls injection zoned
maps accelerator pedal that ecm's called torque limiter
torque limiter ecm called the torque limiter #2
torque limiter ecm called the torque limiter #3
out of the driver you have to the following address:
646a4: advance injection
6922c: limiter fumes
6967a: rail pressure
6957a: rail pressure limiter
69ac2: rail pressure limiter
62bb0: torque limiter
6add4: torque limiter
6adfc: torque limiter
6ae44: torque limiter
6ae5a: torque limiter
6ae94: torque limiter
now you have everything there? you need to map your car.
as you can see on this forum people are helped really, just have patience
certainly in 16 bit sorry we are, and the rev-limiter ?
without touching the bp you how many mm3 of can you inject without touching the map of the times of iniezionee?
sstock inject on 40mm3 about
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