opel vectra.. replacement engine does not!

[audi sp]

Hello Colleagues..

I'm helping a colleague to solve this problem and I ask all of you a piece of advice...
has replaced the engine on this car why? time.. he has mounted another always of an opel vectra, but the 2001.. the engine code changes ? equal ( tomorrow I enter the data complete )
mountain both fuel pump vp44 .. to avoid that there are problems of codes etc.. replaced all of the engine and installed on the client in for repair..
replaced ( keys, ecu, engine, instrument panel), but the vehicle will not start.. does not recognize the key code..

I have to say that the engine has replaced the first unmount it started perfectly

question.. if both vehicles are the same but they have a code different engine.. ? possible that the problem is related to the electrical system other than I have another.... ???

you have info about it?

[giarras]

according to me, you should check the electrical system, with diagram in hand, if the plant ? different, it may be that some of the pins may be in other locations.

[audi sp]

it is as I imagined.. but given that there are I in the workshop.. I still have a little bit difficult to help ...

[giarras]

it is as I imagined.. but given that there are I in the workshop.. I still have a little bit difficult to help ...

then we see at least find the patterns..put + data..ok?

[audi sp]

then we see at least find the patterns..put + data..ok?

ok.. tomorrow I post more? data.. tonight not me ? the state can take them..

[audi sp]

thanks giarras for the interest !!

[blackwolf76]

if in 2001, with the pump VP't have to replace it, and it was enough to check that all the sensors were the same, and when in doubt, fit the original car. The pumps WP on opel do not even have to encoding, and then are easily interchangeable between cars and car, unlike the focus, that although have the same encoding, and then go riverginate in the case of the replacement.

If you want my advice comeback all the car's original and you'll see that partir?, even though the engine is another.

Many times the data of the immobilizer reside in the instrument panel and theoretically you should also change it with the one of the drive where you got the rest of the components.

[munro]

Hello Colleagues..

I'm helping a colleague to solve this problem and I ask all of you a piece of advice...
has replaced the engine on this car why? time.. he has mounted another always of an opel vectra, but the 2001.. the engine code changes ? equal ( tomorrow I enter the data complete )
mountain both fuel pump vp44 .. to avoid that there are problems of codes etc.. replaced all of the engine and installed on the client in for repair..
replaced ( keys, ecu, engine, instrument panel), but the vehicle will not start.. does not recognize the key code..

I have to say that the engine has replaced the first unmount it started perfectly

question.. if both vehicles are the same but they have a code different engine.. ? possible that the problem is related to the electrical system other than I have another.... ???

you have info about it?
I don't understand.... but the pump ? the ori of the car?
revised and mounted on the motor replaced???
I, however, with all the vp44 pumps with which I had to do I have always seen that they have on codes type 036 or 044 talking with a friend pompista told me that these codes are the same as you have codes INA of the injectors CR and are used by the ecu to have a calibration and an associated feedback signal on the actuators pump ... I would like to recall that the vp44 can calibrate the fuel injector to the injector via the injection time as a Common Rail....

[blackwolf76]

On oper there are three types of codes, now in mind I don't remember well, anyway, the two codes are interchangeable, while one was not ? interchangeable.

[munro]

bh? blackwolf from all the vp44 opel are interchangeable between them to only 2....c'? I go and......

[blackwolf76]

In fact, at that point it was necessary to first check and in case change only the fuel pump to the engine and all the electronics.

The discourse interchangeable, I meant that ? can change car and drive without encoding problems, but of course you have to consider the code of the pump.

[munro]

the problem of the pumps, vp44,as I said before spiegatomi from my pompista,st? in the fact that the code serves for the calibration of the pump itself.... also on the CR you can mount the injectors with different codes for? for example, 276 on the fiat jtd 115hp seem to be of the injectors plus...or 114 on some jtd compartment well while on the other they suck...this also happens with the vp44 but since the pumps are working, closed-loop feedback should always mount the pump with the same code....also many times when they are overhauled without the dealer bosch happen casini why? this during the revision procedure according to the code pump entered the f? a alliniemanto on the sensors with the integrated card....

[blackwolf76]

the problem of the pumps, vp44,as I said before spiegatomi from my pompista,st? in the fact that the code serves for the calibration of the pump itself.... also on the CR you can mount the injectors with different codes for? for example, 276 on the fiat jtd 115hp seem to be of the injectors plus...or 114 on some jtd compartment well while on the other they suck...this also happens with the vp44 but since the pumps are working, closed-loop feedback should always mount the pump with the same code....also many times when they are overhauled without the dealer bosch happen casini why? this during the revision procedure according to the code pump entered the f? a alliniemanto on the sensors with the integrated card....

For a discourse of performance and calibration very likely you're right, for? in this case, has nothing to do with the fact that the car is not starting because it does not recognize the key.
As I told you lately I did some work on motors, opel, and I can say that I intercambiato pumps VP on 3-4 car without any problem. According to the pompista with whom I work by changing the codes, there is a variation in performance is minimal, if not imperceptible, confirmed by the fact that I, myself, have reversed the codes and the customers have not noticed anything abnormal.

[munro]

sar?...but the last pump vp44 made ? was that an audi A4 2.5 tdi...sotituita with a revised not from my pompista but by another with a different code....apart from the fact that to get it started made me sweat...then once in motion the car had a throttle "jerky" this? up to a certain regime was slow to climb speed and at a certain point, it looked like a petrol in the car to take all the rounds up to the max...I have spoken with my pompista,with whom we are friends and sometimes we help each other,and explained to me that probably it was calibrated wrong, the sensor of turns inside the pump and other things including the different code...
the customer of this thing, if not noticed and we still walk so but according to me and my pompista the car is not good in that way...

[carriuolotuning]

hello,have you also changed the antennino that is located under the ignition key?

[freddyecu]

If you want the machine to hand you forgive all its parts ( ecu key etc) in the pi? take from the old engine to the fuel pump and fit it on another engine.. ? you'll see that it goes all in place without comlicarti life on the fact to modify the electrical system