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dvdtuning
22-06-2012, 14:19
I wanted to know if you have noticed substantial differences in the use of the 2 versions of mpps.
Version 12 ? higher than 5, or you have found something negative?
msport (exil77grande)
23-06-2012, 09:46
besides, do more things on the 1.3 mjet for what I could see the v5.0 and is more stable,use equipment official, but I have friends and clients that the hann.
dvdtuning
25-06-2012, 08:20
I used the v5.0 and I was fine, I would like to try the v12 but I had already? heard rumors on the fact that it is not this that great....
I have them both and honestly I feel better with the 12: it seems to me that on some cars, is clearly the most? fast and stable.
However, never had any problems even with the 5 :)
msport (exil77grande)
25-06-2012, 12:08
in fact they are personal experiences, so if one needs the v12 takes it otherwise remains with the v5 and does not change much.
yes, the 12 has the right protocol for the lancia ypsilon 75 and 90hp that I needed :)
dvdtuning
25-06-2012, 15:06
Locked you ever have any ecu with both?
not really... me ? happened to the dawn, the first machine that I have done through the OBD lock an ECU... I had no equipment why? always made the car setup by programming the eeprom direct... a colleague wanted to map his 156 and ? bought a galletto clone ... I never did... you ? stuck in writing immediately after the cancellation ...
dvdtuning
25-06-2012, 15:16
I'm also talking about the most recent...edc16 c8/c39 etc.
fortunately (SGRAT) no ... :D :D :D
you have had negative experiences in this regard?
dvdtuning
25-06-2012, 15:37
I no....but I have a few cases that relate to...made 4 edc15c7 and 3 edc16c8.
In the case of the block ? should try again with the mod or mode? recovery with file ori?
Accordingly bdm or interfaces official right?
I sincerely in the case of the block... I would try a recovery mode with mpps with the file ori... then in extrema ratio BDM ...
dvdtuning
25-06-2012, 17:02
In fact ? what I also knew I... I thought that there were other techniques attempted. And then not ? should try again after the restore to do a writing mod?
msport (exil77grande)
25-06-2012, 17:16
then I'll explain what to do in case of a blockage,then NEVER and co NEVER switch off the ignition,exit the program, reopen it, and try mode recoveri to write the file to ori,if you are not going to do other attempts, never turn the ignition off,maybe try without data if it is possible,in case if you have other programmers try with those,in the case of a negative before disassembling the unit, disconnect the positive of the batt for about 30 minutes and then try again if it doesn't there is no alternative or programmers official if anyone in the area or unsolder in the case of edc15 or bdm in the case of edc16.
dvdtuning
25-06-2012, 17:28
then I'll explain what to do in case of a blockage,then NEVER and co NEVER switch off the ignition,iscire from the program, reopen it, and try mode recoveri to write the file to ori,if you are not going to do other attempts, never turn the ignition off,maybe try without data if it is possible,in case if you have other programmers try with those,in the case of a negative before disassembling the unit, disconnect the positive of the batt for about 30 minutes and then try again if it doesn't there is no alternative or programmers official if anyone in the area or unsolder in the case of edc15 or bdm in the case of edc16.
Thanks...this framework does not know! Critical step I would say!
cattivik
29-06-2012, 01:57
use both the 5 and the 12 on 2 different pcs... The thing that I noticed ? that on the TDI edc15 both continue to struggle with a p? in writing. the 12, especially if you notice well the steps you can? note that nn complies with the normal procedure types of receipt information,security access, erasing flash, and writing, but you accavvalla x? without compromising the write of the file.
cattivik
29-06-2012, 02:00
Thanks...this framework does not know! Critical step I would say!
instead I use an other solution... bizarre manner but ? the opposite to yours :-) especially on the TDI
In the case of non-completion of the write I turn off the framework in the meantime, I select the file to write again and when I get to the item where it asks if I want to start writing, which you and immediately turn it on the picture. Solved it many times on the TDI edc15. I believe that doing so? there is a power surge on the line and pretending to be almost a write to the tour.
cattivik
29-06-2012, 10:27
nn I would like to start to argue :-)... but I find it difficulty? to do as you say without turning off the framework,on edc16 especially. once I turn on the light on the traction control and then the control unit K. O. nn makes me write xch? says the ecu nn found! by then the operation described previously can't force the writing. but as in all the works each one has its own method
dvdtuning
29-06-2012, 11:21
If the script says ok, but the car on the first start not be you have to turn the ignition off? I say this from hearsay, but not me ? ever happened to you.
cattivik
29-06-2012, 11:26
just turn on the framework of the writing occurred by error example of calculating the checksum, you should have lights lit type esp/asr and engine management! useless to try to get it to start... I do the above procedure and resolved without removing anything,you just have to be patient and try a couple of times
dvdtuning
29-06-2012, 11:28
Could be a solution if you have already made all the other tests!
cattivik
29-06-2012, 11:31
I have always resolved to cos?... even if nn ? the right section where to present it you could do a video like this and other disaster recovery x metterele available to all users
dvdtuning
29-06-2012, 11:33
Have you ever resolved? Good then...you can make examples of the types of car you speak and with which version of mpps?
cattivik
29-06-2012, 11:39
EDC15 1.9 TDI EDC15 c7 jtd version V5 that the V12. Pay attention x? the V12 on the TDI EDC15 see to trudge,in fact I prefer them with the V5
cattivik
30-06-2012, 11:02
anyway, speaking of recovery methods with the mpps in the case of damage, there is also another solution... a bit more? complicated,but it was of help in case of need? extreme! it works both on edc15 that edc16! in case of error in the recognition ID of the mpps if you have the possiblit? and to hand a controller similar as a family to the one on the car locked stick it to the latter, and let them do the ID recognition on this without turn the ignition off put the ecu is locked, and proceed with the writing. I hope I was helpful
he is the reason why the 77grande nn never turn off the picture, if anything, put in mode? recovery, I have both the v5 release that v12 are almost equal in truth? the v12 and a little more? stable.
cattivik
02-07-2012, 02:27
:-) I'm willing to do a video demonstration on my mode?... I would like to see cn the indicator light the esp/tcs/asr on the confirmation of the lock control unit how do you get it to start in writing!
dvdtuning
02-07-2012, 08:45
If you want to post the video so anyone who does not believe can? to see that it really works.
Could be a solution to the swap ecu... But have you ever tried? I'm doubtful on how to do well the rest of the electronics, disconnect and reconnect an Ecu hot...
almost there I feel c'? always time x learn how to say the ways of the lord are infinite, cattivik anyway if you have time, check out the video may be useful
simone82
14-07-2012, 20:50
I with the version v5 I stuck two times in scripture that the greatly 90hp and a friend of mine has locked a fiesta 1.6 tdci 90cv in writing and I have been aching after that I decided you to attach it to the nail!
msport (exil77grande)
15-07-2012, 09:18
actually if you are a beginner and you are not equipped for good and a very bad experience, but quiet, there's always a first time for everyone then made the experience and attrezatodi for good becomes a no-brainer.
the version crack works as good as the original?
simone82
16-07-2012, 18:17
watch I l original I don't know,but to experience the clone l I stuck to the nail
mmmm you make me doubt, I wanted to take it, but I wait for more info
simone82
16-07-2012, 18:24
then maybe you will be the pi? lucky but me ? gi? the success of block two ecu then you have to see it,there are clones and clones
the original coast 270 while the clones have different prices
simone82
16-07-2012, 18:35
sincerely, the original one not l've never even seen it,but give me a straight spend something more? but are you sure you
? identical to the clone, a friend took a clone along with other programs at 100 euro shipped 3 months f? and up to now no problem
simone82
16-07-2012, 18:46
blessed to him,I can assure you that if crashes are a pain
have you also tried with the function recovery?
simone82
16-07-2012, 18:55
if you had worked more? what else
damn it, better to stay away from the clones then
simone82
16-07-2012, 19:04
I repeat, there are clones and clones
simone82
16-07-2012, 19:06
then you see yourself,so you have to see if they also give assistance
expect some veteran advice
simone82
16-07-2012, 19:13
you should why? to cause damage ? a flash rather spend s? pi? but you are clear,in the end the difference is not ? a lot of
magi1984
16-07-2012, 19:24
surely a key thing when reading but especially writing,is that you use a clone or an original? attach a booster to the battery of the machine,why? if the voltage drops below the 12v could be really pain.
I have a customer with kess original sent in block a 530d why? he did not put the booster and the car had the battery half gone!and them to restore it with bdm, but I made an effort the beast, given that he had no backup of the original!
meccano85
16-07-2012, 19:25
there are clones mpps of fine workmanship in fact I use it on a lot of car and goes like a train.....the important ? use the tricks right
simone82
16-07-2012, 19:32
in fact, when you make bmw says to put them under the current the battery
magi1984
16-07-2012, 20:10
I do it with all of them, x not go wrong!
simone82
16-07-2012, 20:13
real is always better, I decided to take the galletto v2
there are clones mpps of fine workmanship in fact I use it on a lot of car and goes like a train.....the important ? use the tricks right
in addition to attach a booster to the battery thing can be? do? and, above all, can you describe a clone that works well?
simone82
16-07-2012, 20:18
if I were you, expect that on this website you can find the new cock
do you say that ? best of mpps? also the cloned?
simone82
16-07-2012, 20:49
eh,surely, is also the double of the machines,read also in the bdm and boot
simone82
16-07-2012, 21:27
I paid 1000€
simone82
16-07-2012, 21:43
no clone but not chinese
damn it!!! and it costs 1000 euro? then the original how much is it?
simone82
16-07-2012, 21:48
2000 if I'm not mistaken
can I ask you where did you get it?
simone82
16-07-2012, 22:18
I wrote in private
ok simon, I answered it :cool:
simone82
16-07-2012, 22:43
ok anyway see you,so think carefully what you take
watch I believe that the pi? hands-on ecm titanium but until now I've only seen other programs work without ever having them tested in person
simone82
16-07-2012, 22:48
watch I sincerely I have both ecm titanic and map3d but between the two I prefer map3d
simone82
16-07-2012, 22:55
anyway, Thursday? I should get ,I hope for the best
surely it will go? well, then with the assistance I think that is a guarantee
msport (exil77grande)
16-07-2012, 22:59
the mpps original costs about 1600-1800€ so don't be fooled,when it comes to the clone I have to say that it works very well, but it depends on where you buy it,anyway guys you can spend for a clone 100€ or 1000€, but remember that it's still a clone.
simone82
16-07-2012, 23:01
in fact, I preferred that,there are lots of 1000 for a clone for? are more? quiet
simone82
16-07-2012, 23:06
expert now not to overdo it too, I am a novice to? I want to put myself seriously
I am also fascinated by this world, but I think it takes time and passion to learn, then ? my job I do anything and I am careful not to compete or create problems to whom ? in the industry and working with passion and professionalism, ? just for personal knowledge
mpps v12 ? true that makes a few cars in the pi? but it is very difficult in the can, and the protocols do not work well...
saivivere
19-07-2012, 15:51
I am up to date with mpps v12, I have never had any problems. Yesterday I loaded a map on a bmw serie1 120d 163 hp and ? everything went well, done in writing (with slow recovery) and a power supply connected to the 14 v, written in about 2 minutes.
The next tool that acquister? ? surely the rooster v2 that they say go well.
dvdtuning
19-07-2012, 16:16
If the power supply fails ? stable 14 v, 14.5 v and rises and falls of 0.4 v and never fall below 14 v, it could cause a blockage?
I am up to date with mpps v12, I have never had any problems. Yesterday I loaded a map on a bmw serie1 120d 163 hp and ? everything went well, done in writing (with slow recovery) and a power supply connected to the 14 v, written in about 2 minutes.
The next tool that acquister? ? surely the rooster v2 that they say go well.
your ? original or clone?
saivivere
21-07-2012, 23:30
My ? a clone. As regards the power supply I connected in parallel to the battery, a power supply providing 40 amps of Diamond that I use on two-way radios, with power stable at 14.3 volts, as soon as I started to write, I turn on the various lights on the instrument panel and operates the blower of the fuel tank. I am afraid, only at the end when as soon as it finished writing to the flash and checked the cks I will close the prog, it never happened in normal writing. I had a terrible fear, but after turned off and then on the picture then everything is ok. I also redid the read the ecu to verify that the write was successful and ? was ok.
very good a very good clone then :)
ok guys today I have read the original file of my e60 in about 2 minutes with mpps sticking a charger on the car ? very fast, it remains to be seen if he can write with equal ease
saivivere
22-07-2012, 21:32
it works really well, I think the e60 the write quietly but collegaci a nice charger, otherwise it is a drop in the voltage below 14 volts.
I connect the charger and while reading I marked 13.5 volts on mpps ? little? the battery ? new
dvdtuning
23-07-2012, 08:13
To be safe, the voltage should be at least 14v, cos? it's less risky.
and how do I bring it to 14v?
dvdtuning
23-07-2012, 14:53
Depends on the charger... if you have different methods of charging should overcome the 14v.
saivivere
23-07-2012, 18:25
Or it takes quite a charger or use a feeder, adjustable up to 15 volts, and set it to 14.3. In programming it after about a minute, the voltage tends to drop below 14 volts so be careful.
I have a charger of bosh, but exceeded 13.5 volts to charge you disable the automatic power supply do you have any advice precise on where to find it?
put power supplies are adequate a few times, leave the fans and the voltage drops quite a bit, with the necessary precautions this serial though ? a clone does not block anything
do you have any advice about it? where can you? find a good power supply?
also on the baya cost a little
I have looked but can not find anything
saivivere
23-07-2012, 21:33
if you are looking for on ebay switching power supplies, adjustable, you will find many, at least from a 30ina of amps are good.
ok I have found a few, we just want the cables to connect it to the battery
dvd tuning...go quiet... see below 12v, the program gives you the V in the red....
And little use mpps clone I've noticed that I do not read all of the units that are in the prog, especially, for example, the edc 16C 39 on opel zafira.Vi is? Thanks
msport (exil77grande)
09-09-2012, 15:28
And little use mpps clone I've noticed that I do not read all of the units that are in the prog, especially, for example, the edc 16C 39 on opel zafira.Vi is? Thanks
let's say it's a clone, and costs 2 lira and then if something is not done, you can't blame anyone,but we do that on the whole it works well and it's odd that reads a trivial edc16 c39 are you sure that you're the protocol right?
And little use mpps clone I've noticed that I do not read all of the units that are in the prog, especially, for example, the edc 16C 39 on opel zafira.Vi is? Thanks
this unit mpps the law well contralla protocols, as our friend msport
this unit mpps the law well contralla protocols, as our friend msport
I tried ir? times but nothing to do..id ok.. but read error... the car was a client of step..in the end, exhausted.. I had to practice the classic hole in the fap building a long drill over a meter!!!!!
Question from the ignorant: interface usb mpps 12 that are on the market are almost? the same since they use the same drivers I change something??thanks
Still a doubt...the mpps ? installed on a netbook, asus eepc 1000 ? possible that the amperage of the usb ports that do not ? the highest influence on the interpretation of some of the units??
msport (exil77grande)
09-09-2012, 18:34
from my point of view better for the mpps with aluminum casing apart as the one for sale in the online shop of the forum,for the pc thinks that it is doing very well and will not affect the readings.
tecnoracing
10-09-2012, 21:38
iio I got to try both the bmw x3 e90 and 60 it seems that it works only once in a great point, and locked the programming mode without turning off the picture I reprogrammed in recoveri and it worked
the one in the aluminum box has reason msport and a bit better anyway, also the cable works, the mpps if you do not have many claims ? the clone + reliable that c'? on the market
pal.car.racing
16-09-2012, 17:41
I also have the version 12 of the mpps and ? a bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cattivik
18-09-2012, 09:08
I agree... then price-performance ratio........... :-)
I bought it and I'm and we are looking forward that will come to me..hopefully that works well.
alfetta80
14-10-2012, 01:53
a greeting...
I or a mpps v5 and never gave me any problems,edc16c8, and 39 great never had any problems...greetings..
dvdtuning
15-10-2012, 19:51
I with the V5 in aluminium box up to now no problem...
But which version of the MPPS V12 works better, the one in the aluminum box and the built-in obd?
msport (exil77grande)
19-10-2012, 22:11
But which version of the MPPS V12 works better, the one in the aluminum box and the built-in obd?
from what I've seen the best and the aluminum housing, but that's all in the grip goes well as well.
tuommo89
09-12-2012, 21:42
to me have advised to " release all cable " as they say, there are less connections, wires, c'? less risk of some false contact, and that you wear for less!!! between v5 and v12 , it says that the v5 ? pi? stable but face a few less car!
msport (exil77grande)
09-12-2012, 23:14
it is exactly the opposite in that everything in the cable, things have been deleted, and miniturizzate then made 2 accounts alone, and draw your own conclusions from that,for the v5 and it is true that initially than the v12 was more stable, but now it seems that the thing is to be established, and the v5 is out of production now.
tuommo89
09-12-2012, 23:54
you know that ? out of production , but I meant to say that there are less links, and what ? pi? delicate as contact of the cables...that's all....to me so they said!!
tonybiond
14-01-2013, 20:48
hi, should I take a mpps which version do you recommend I should do edc16 edc15 and(for intederci the fiat group, and the audi group ) which of the two ? best
from what I've seen the best and the aluminum housing, but that's all in the grip goes well as well.
Then, what would be the difference between the two? :confused:
Thanks for the clarification... :)
sportknight
02-02-2013, 16:07
if I have the v5 and I take a v12, I will have driver issues??
I think of you why? now use win7 the driver of the v12... what do you think?them to see? as the same interface? I would like to keep them both why? with the v5 I'm sure on the tdi edc15 I have never had problems!!!
albertorapper
15-02-2013, 22:54
hi, I orditato the v13, you did? it works well?
if I have the v5 and I take a v12, I will have driver issues??
I think of you why? now use win7 the driver of the v12... what do you think?them to see? as the same interface? I would like to keep them both why? with the v5 I'm sure on the tdi edc15 I have never had problems!!!
No, I have them both installed without problems. I work both of you.
cawadany
04-03-2013, 18:38
I with the V5 I have done two cars with MED9.1, a 2.0 TDI EDC16U31, a 1.9 TDI EDC16U31, and a 1.9 TDI EDC15. Always have the charger plugged in and never a problem.
For me, the better the v. 12 and not only because? is pi? machines, I've written no problem 30 marelli 6F3 grande punto 75 and 90 hp and never a block, then
problems in any ecu can happen both with the v. 5 with v. 12.
leandro89
16-03-2013, 14:30
Mpps v12 has many more? drive in the memory, the v5 I just depends on the car
dvdtuning
16-03-2013, 15:09
I with the v5 I never had a problem to scripture:
alfa and fiat edc15c7, edc16c8, edc16c39
Audi edc16u, edc15p, edc16cp34
Golf4 edc15p, golf 5 edc16u
honda edc16c31
ford edc16c34 ? arrived at 100%? locked, I waited for a bit before you turn off the ignition, but the car ? distributed.
Xtreme0303
17-03-2013, 22:21
To me is coming to the v12, but for the v13 no one has any news?
Good morning, with mpps v12 you can read and write Audi A6 2.7 V6 to remove the dpf and egr? Thanks
sportknight
19-03-2013, 10:29
the manual says to you,try to read it,if the law of the writes ...
Xtreme0303
19-03-2013, 12:44
of course, a particular eye on the voltage..
msport (exil77grande)
19-03-2013, 20:33
Good morning, with mpps v12 you can read and write Audi A6 2.7 V6 to remove the dpf and egr? Thanks
for the luca stanca if you ask those who have experience will have no problems.
[QUOTE=msport (exil77grande);34144]for the luca stanca if you ask anyone who has experience you will get problemia.
My intention ? to read and write. to work on the file there is a professional. You were talking to this?
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