Opinion Alfa 159 150 HP 138_889

[jared_poe]

Hi, apart from the turbo to the minimum has too much pressure as other defects has this map?

[magi1984]

for me apart from the rail pressure should be redone as a whole.
torque limiters increased in certain dunti 117%
the required torque during acceleration increased to the contrary, in my opinion, 10% to 50%of the pedal 1% to 100% of the pedal
pressure the turbo you already have? commented you

[giarras]

exact the magi? redo I agree with you.

[jared_poe]

thanks for the response magi, I'd like to start with the deepening of the speech of the torque limiter according to me ? hurt the original map, if the map values are Nm then why? should I have to 990giri 300Nm and 1000giri 190Nm?
What do you think?

[rego88]

in my opinion the map ? completely redo.... I don't know if you've changed the maps in the attached file above.... but, in my opinion.... to start.... I would start just by tapping a few things.... we don't cook too much meat on the fire....
then, starting from the first 4 maps that we encounter at the beginning of the 2d (the first 4 maps changed) to my notice by an increase of 15% from 50% load and 1700/1800 rpm, then the egr ? wrong... these cars do not pull a straight line, like in the old edc15.... more forward... you will find 2 panettone, type 2 lim torque.... you have to bring them to the minimum value 0 and so the' egr ? s
excluded, the lim couple, don't bother about how ? the fact.... by a gradual increase from 10% to 35%, in my opinion, the 5 maps of advances rimettile golds, at the time d' injection injection (split) by an increase of 10% to the curves that call from 1700 rpm, then to the other by a 15% down, the turbo... you have neglected the map before the one you mod you, the one and the one you mod you... by an increase in the percentage of 7 max 8% not to exceed 200 points increase, the rail by an increase of 4%, then you missed a limiter that is before the one that you touched you... incremental, both of the 5% for now just.... nn tap other....

[rego88]

one other thing..... you are expected to fap..... now with the time nn I remembered..... at the time d injection by a 10% increase.... to all the curves, not 15!!! otherwise clogging the fap...

[jared_poe]

then, I s? that allotment from the original and I try to give up the changes that I have shown you, only one thing about the egr, the s? almost all exclude the egr with the two cakes, but I assure you that so well? excluding the egr, tested on 4 or 5 MJET.

[jared_poe]

st? working on the file and I have a doubt:but in the map of the injection times where you see them the rounds?
then, the values on the x-axis are mm3 injection, while those on the y-axis are the Bar and the values of the plan are msec.

[jared_poe]

Then I tried to follow your instructions rego88, I left in a pending state, the discourse of the injection time why? I have doubts that I have written above, then I wanted to ask you one thing, if you change the injection time as a proper rule you should not change well in advance to prevent the engine from "pat"?

[Chris156]

I saw your last map.. for how you have changed the pedal, you should change the times just in the last 3 points of each curve..then 1.5 - 2 degrees fixed increment in advance. for the rail would ori..

[jared_poe]

sorry munro can you explain that?to map the pedal you mean the four maps that depart from 1C1674?then what would be the mappadi conversion?

[Chris156]

what it means munro ? that if you give 15% to the torque by the same percentage to the pedal.

[jared_poe]

ok chris, but to speak the same language for maps pedal you mean the ones that ecm2001 called enrichment, acceleration, and ecm titanium called torque request during standard conditions, the required torque during acceleration etc?

[Chris156]

Yes, they are!

[jared_poe]

ok then I understand, thanks, however I wanted to ask you with regard to the degrees of advance? the values read in the map, what are they? and the prex rail why? ori?

[jared_poe]

ok, in my case, I think you can leave them in gold, I didn't want to make a map from 180 hp only the map a little more? plucky, loose

[jared_poe]

I just read the discussion you're talking about, honestly, I think you're right about the advances, only that the degree of t? I should give the whole map or only in the one in which I modify the injection time?

[Chris156]

make the tests..and see if you feel the difference!!!!!

[Chris156]

jared how is the car?

[jared_poe]

I have not yet made the map, first I wanted to understand the meaning of the maps before deciding on how to modify my car ;)

[mavaila1972]

I would start to give a few points ahead,a dozen and then a 0.2-0.3 degrees,from where you will start to give fuel to then increase gradually up to 1-1,5 degrees where you have the most diesel fuel is injected and then go down a p? towards the end of the laps and of the decrease in diesel to try to "stretch" the engine to make the wall the engine was brought to the high even if with modest increases of advance this is not the case very markedly....

correct logic good explanation

[Chris156]

correct logic good explanation

me explain this logic correct? ;)

[Chris156]

I have not yet made the map, first I wanted to understand the meaning of the maps before deciding on how to modify my car ;)

of what year ?? how many km do you have? you and luca stanca?

[jared_poe]

? 2007 135000km I have not the luca stanca

[Chris156]

you want to keep with the fap?
as the clutch is good?

[jared_poe]

you think I keep it with the fap, the clutch, I made it to 125000km it seems to me

[mavaila1972]

me explain this logic correct? ;)

advances them increases where you have increased the amount of diesel injected, this means the logic is correct since you are good explains you how to change them, and what mathematical formula;)

[Chris156]

of course, if the example to 2500giri inject 72mm3 16? and you can bring the new value to 84mm3 according to you ? right to give only 0.2 degrees of advance in the most? (the cio? 16,2?)

[mavaila1972]

of course, if the example to 2500giri inject 72mm3 16? and you can bring the new value to 84mm3 according to you ? right to give only 0.2 degrees of advance in the most? (the cio? 16,2?)


we understood the advance is not directly proportional to the quantity injected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chris156]

Ah no??? and that proportion is given the advance???? :eek:

[mavaila1972]

Ah no??? and that proportion is given the advance???? :eek:

the more fuel the more advance but the value by the increment in the two maps is different.
tot increase in fuel tot degrees to the values a little bit of experience

[Chris156]

certainly that ? different on the increase..
from experience what do you mean? the rear view mirror??? :cool:

[Chris156]

of course, because everything there? that from to the times ? injected after tdc..

[jared_poe]

Then I changed my map, I believe that there are still some maps, but in the meantime I would like to hear your opinion

[Chris156]

not good.. do not go in a hurry, try to understand how they are connected between them with the maps..

[jared_poe]

you intend to map the pedal and IQ?

[Chris156]

at what point are you??
We hope that it has not taken the take-off!!!
:p

[jared_poe]

no no... I had a little to do these days...I have to shave the last few details ;)

[James]

that sucks I'm done that I can not download.....I wanted to see your creation!! in any case, start by map basis
pedal, lim torque,diesel, reil, turbo and natralmente close the egr

then if one day you decide to remove the dpf you do some step a p? the most challenging and touching the advances, but I assure you that even without touching the advances you can get to a very good step