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spark
29-10-2012, 22:08
I would like to know from the experts that work already? in the field, if the sw that are usually to analyze and modify the mappings ? typically always the same (chosen, for example, why? comfortable, functional, highly decodificante, etc), or are more? one, why? maybe some sw work better on the ecu of certain vehicles, other sw better on the ecu of the other.

At this point, I ask, by the tread of fcp84 for the 500 abarth, such as sw would you recommend to start with - in such a way that beginners can start their "studies", starting immediately with a valuable tool, even if it is complex.

tnx

msport (exil77grande)
30-10-2012, 08:25
well, I think that the sw used + or - with all the potential functions are the same for everybody and they are:

winols (surely among the most complex and' only in English or German, but it seems to be the more professional)
ecm 2001 (it would be the old sw alientech is still used today for those who are not provided with titanium the only neo drivers not updated to the new vehicles)
titanium (it would be the new sw alientech definitely a good compromise and very functional also for the automatic search of the driver, something that was not happening with the old ecm besides, this is much more up to date.)
map 3d (great sw creates a setting file automatically based on the type of the ecu and is not hard to use)
all these sw you need to know how to use them, otherwise you lose days and days, but these are most of the professionals use to edit maps.

fcp84
03-11-2012, 15:19
excellent guide msport.....I am more and more convinced of porovare titanium......

mavaila1972
11-11-2012, 23:35
I would like to know from the experts that work already? in the field, if the sw that are usually to analyze and modify the mappings ? typically always the same (chosen, for example, why? comfortable, functional, highly decodificante, etc), or are more? one, why? maybe some sw work better on the ecu of certain vehicles, other sw better on the ecu of the other.

At this point, I ask, by the tread of fcp84 for the 500 abarth, such as sw would you recommend to start with - in such a way that beginners can start their "studies", starting immediately with a valuable tool, even if it is complex.

tnx

I recommend winols even if at the beginning it is a little difficult, however, to learn how to map without the use of drivers and the only way to make decent work in most avoid to use driver with the"internal errors

explode82
13-11-2012, 15:55
I agree in working with the file without the driver,and in my opinion the changes in 2D (i.e. those manuals looking at the map and choose the individual increments to want to give ? the ecm regardless of the version, said this to? c'? to clarify that as tells you what are the maps to modify, and what are they precisely ? only winols but if you have the damos

franco75
13-11-2012, 18:56
I am a beginner, I prefer Winols only that I am often forced to translate from German

cinqueturbo
13-11-2012, 21:46
I studied German as a first language,
and however Winols do not understand to the fullest!!!:confused:

franco75
13-11-2012, 22:24
Not ? of immediate use, but in view of the completeness of the Damos around in my opinion ? the best. To change the maps use ECM but the drivers are pitiful.
The last machine that I made ? was a 530d recreating the driver based on the information taken from winols.

giulianoA3
13-11-2012, 22:40
sorry for the damos what are they??

explode82
14-11-2012, 00:13
are files winols in which are indicated the various points of the maps and what they mean,specific for each car model and engine

giulianoA3
14-11-2012, 09:33
he's ok, and on ecm titanium these there are?thanks..

giulianoA3
14-11-2012, 09:37
but winols ? a program mappattura, immaggino than titanium!!!

explode82
14-11-2012, 10:43
definitely superior to the titanim,but only if you have the damos,otherwise ? useless as a program belonging to the that for the calculation of the cecksum

abberello
19-11-2012, 14:39
But the damos them I can ask them online or ? a casino for them?

giulianoA3
19-11-2012, 18:36
the damos files decryption and reporting maps on the sw mapping winols are like "compasses" that allow you to navigate through the "jungle maps" present in an ecu practically then they tell you every secret of the ecu are created....
sorry mapping with the ecm, where you serve to find the damos?

explode82
19-11-2012, 21:26
the damos pi? disclosed are easy to find,very rare, are difficult, and their cost can? exceed 500€

sportknight
18-12-2012, 22:48
I the damos I found around,but to be honest with winols ? a little too cumbersome,the ecm in all versions ? intuitive and fast.

munro
19-12-2012, 00:20
yes, but most of the times does not allow you to understand what you're doing,if you look around in the various discussions you will understand the why of this statement,which,according to me,? very serious for an editor to edit the file....
all ..es many times in the maps in 2d in the table reports the actual values of the map itself...***** you f? a moddare a map cos???fast and intuitive???
my mom I don't even want to think about it v?....