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hello all,
should I buy a new programmer, why? I don't trust most? my mpps v5 because I asked for a workshop to go to work for them for? the equipment I should buy and I'd work only in the end of the week, and then spend 2000 euros and then I'm going to pay off, if all goes well in 4 years I can't do that..... now you pongoi of the questions why? are really confused and not s? how to become****!
I should have a programmer that I do a lot of car why? not s? never what I get in the workshop, possibly me in the face via OBD,
the kess clone that I would sell a guy that I know and s? that works, I f? In ADDITION TO ALL the CARS in THE FIAT GROUP, ALFA, LANCIA, ford?( I lose the encoding ignettori? as it happens if I use the mpps?) group WV? GOLF 6???? all the ecu denso? (renault, peugeot, citroen?????) risk with the kess clone???
I also found a MAGPRO V4.2 works as the kess clone?? ? best???
in the end I found a kess V2 original at a good price updated up to January 2013? for? ? SLAVE( so I should make to make maps from a true master?) and coming from the uk, with this for? I would be sure that the cars listed above, I do safely without the risk of lock???
sorry if I squeezed of questions , but in this period of crisis, not s? what can you do if going to work in a workshop or let eperdere all why? do I have to spend too much to equip myself and have a minimum of security......
thanks a lot to all of you..
msport (exil77grande)
25-10-2012, 09:15
then,if you want to work you have to attrezzarti then if you have to play and another account considers that there is' who has spent more than 12-15.000 € between hw obd,hw bdm,sw etc etc all in the original so if you want to work in security have only 2 possibilities-or take a master ori or take one of the slaves always gold but do not recommend the option of the united kingdom,if I had to choose for the slave, you can contact me in pm I can help you,if you want to take the road of the clone, the only complete at the moment is the rooster v2 that is edc15-edc16-edc16bmw-edc17-tricore-truck-bike-car-bdm instead mpps is only edc15-edc16-edc16bmw and not ford-peugeot-citroen siemens,for the magpro clone, instead, edc15-edc16-bmw edc16-but-ford-peugeot-citroen siemens,for encoding the injectors should do it but we are talking about a clone, and nothing can be guaranteed.
good or bad, the instrumentation, even while leaning on someone you can write to the ecu...
but remember one thing...you need to also know how to process the file...
you can not lean to ask around how to change... you need to know is the fact your.... with courses and documentation of a certain ****llo...
you to? the rooster v2 do not have it in the shop right?
I would like to spend a little, why? first, I want to see how many cars there are to make, and if things go well then it takes equipment pi? competitive, I try to take one step at a time!!!!! the rooster v2 ? easy-to-use? you lose the scodifiche of ignettori?
one thing, msport, why? you say you don't opt for the united kingdom? if I had to take the kess slave that suggest you are obliged to download the file ori, passing it from one that has the kess master, he gives me the remap and me review me ? and of course you make? pay for each map?? why? I understand that the slave reads the fil ecodificato, the type with the master, me, decodes it, and then not? pi? what happens....
good or bad, the instrumentation, even while leaning on someone you can write to the ecu...
but remember one thing...you need to also know how to process the file...
you can not lean to ask around... you need to know is the fact your.... with courses and documentation of a certain ****llo...
the course me pay for the workshop and at least I alaid! my problem ? have a programamtore cost content that you do not go to plant with the ecu!
if you have to do it and feel safe you board a slave-official...
you service, repair and warranty, that is to be protected on the mappings...
if the thing you are interested in without taking away anything to anyone but since we are all and 2 of the same region apparently
for equipment, the official can I instradarti...
for the courses... it's not? who you want to target, therefore, is not s? evaluate its actual effectiveness...
repair means that if you lock your ecu to them me, is to the detriment of alaid??? protected on the mappings that means??
if you break the equipment is repaired...
if you lock your ecu can obviously fix...
if the mapping you the f? your master ? he who guarantees the work...
who me resetting the ecu locked???
here's the point, if I have the slave, obliged me to do the maps from another and I can't gestirmele I right? how much is pi? or less get the map from the master?
msport (exil77grande)
25-10-2012, 14:34
who me resetting the ecu locked???
here's the point, if I have the slave, obliged me to do the maps from another and I can't gestirmele I right? how much is pi? or less get the map from the master?
if you want to detailed information on any course,a programmer slave or master ori or the clone, and the prices on the file or service on your job, or any option you want to take us, we are available you just have to have the ideas more clear,we can talk about it over the phone if you want and I'll give you all the info you need so you schiarisco ideas because you're part of a decisive and clear and I do not do here,do I do this I do that and then we do nothing,a good thing, but one step at a time but in a concrete,you have no idea how many people individuals,workshops,occasional that I follow on the web every day,for some I, the master,other assistance, and so on,I look forward to your contact in pm hello.
I repeat , I don't want to overdo it, I would like to understand what should I do and which path to take. why? m? it is good that I should pay for the training course? on the other hand I have to aggustare I make maps and can be a boon to comtrarmi a programmer that you do not plant to any ecu
Team electronics
25-10-2012, 16:02
You are going to feel msport sure you recommend the best
I repeat , I don't want to overdo it, I would like to understand what should I do and which path to take. why? m? it is good that I should pay for the training course? on the other hand I have to aggustare I make maps and can be a boon to comtrarmi a programmer that you do not plant to any ecu
you have the memory full....
without disrupting the work of others...
or if you have taken already contact....
I'll send you the details directly alientech.
to evaluate the best choice for you...
virus1976
25-10-2012, 19:57
Interesting discussion...
Speaking of Slave ,c'? some contractual assistance, in the sense if I decide not to renew updates, can I continue to use the equipment or me, it becomes a piece of iron?
Another thing to owning a slave, I can decide which master lean?
I'm seriously thinking about, too, to take something official.
thanks
msport (exil77grande)
25-10-2012, 21:35
you have the memory full....
without disrupting the work of others...
or if you have taken already contact....
I'll send you the details directly alientech.
to evaluate the best choice for you...
does not interfere with the work of no one but this forum apart from exchanging opinions and experiences to help one another there are a lot of my employees, I make files on-line or I have done a basic course and make the maps by yourself and where do annual service with many options included in the subscription,which I follow every day and they even call me just for advice or information in response to phone or if I can not answer the recall within 5 minutes,I have sold equipment to both clone that official and let them follow you in everything and I try to keep them updated as much as possible, which I have in one way or another I have always resolved the problems, and I never raised his hands, as do the many at the cost of losing money out of your pocket in order not to make figures of m....... etc etc. this is to say that we are a mechanical workshop with a long experience in the processing mechanical and electronic, and that we do this job for the passion with honesty and without forgetting a very important thing that few can boast of namely, the SERIOUSNESS, and it seems to me that we demonstrate every day here in the forum just to see the request section files online where they are almost always the first to post the file requested, and do not think that they are or we are of anything belonging to,without detracting from the companies such as alientech which are the customer and I don't always mix experience on the field with great engineers who think to create programmers for us computers,I have customers who used a company that I cannot name for obvious reasons who have heard about us and they wanted to try a collaboration then continued that they told me (you know that the embers x to make a map send me the minimum 5 step?do you know that the embers x to answer the phones them I had to call 5-6 times throughout the day? do you know that the embers x they made me do many of the figures of m..... with my clients?) so I conclude saying that everyone is****** to do what you want to follow your own way or others ' advice, but before judging those who do not know you should for a moment think or at least inquire with those who have to do.
dvdtuning
25-10-2012, 21:58
Interesting discussion...
Speaking of Slave ,c'? some contractual assistance, in the sense if I decide not to renew updates, can I continue to use the equipment or me, it becomes a piece of iron?
Another thing to owning a slave, I can decide which master lean?
I'm seriously thinking about, too, to take something official.
thanks
The slave ? usable only by having a master that is the maps, otherwise we do nothing. If you make a contract for the slave, you can switch later to a master, returning the slave to be? scalcolato from the cost of the master.
mastomichele
26-10-2012, 14:44
honest advice from a beginner and I am finding good spending little money you are going to buy the programmer the bdm and the mag pro spend 400 to 500? you do not want to exaggerate the 95 percent of the fleet; you do professionalchiptuning and see how it goes with the job without spending 10000 15000?
at the beginning and then slowly if the job goes, you make a good course of how to remap always through professionalchiptuning and see that you'll be good as me, and you'll work as I'm working I
I'm also interested me.we can hear?
blackwolf76
18-07-2013, 23:24
If you have a job guaranteed and paid for by the duty, you can consider the option to buy official materials, and to do refresher courses, even if mi ? seemed to understand that it is not ? cos?, considering that, from what I understand you're just a zero as seeking general knowledge in the field. You may, in my opinion, start programmer with a decent, clone, that already makes? of its a nice car park and for the processing of the files you trust in the service file of the forum and its regular attendance and you will see that in the space of a few months, you will learn to do many things that will allow you to make the jump that you want.
msport (exil77grande)
19-07-2013, 19:11
I'm also interested me.we can hear?
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