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Khendal
Hi to all, I don't know if it is the right place or I had to write it in the section MPPS... in case of wrong section, I apologize.



1) This machine has a control unit compatible read / write with MPPS v13.02 ?
2) How can I identify the type of unit (model, hw, sw, drivers) without disassemble?

Thank you in advance

lui93
I have already responded in the other threads

Khendal
I have already responded in the other threads

I can't read it with Mpps v13.02 ... recognizes the id of the ecu...but the laws' disabled...

lui93
in the 500 mpps don't read the map, copied the ID and then searches the map ori, when you have done everything and you have to write the cuts to a mega because otherwise you cannot write

Khendal
in the 500 mpps don't read the map, copied the ID and then searches the map ori, when you have done everything and you have to write the cuts to a mega because otherwise you cannot write

Ah here...thanks a lot...

To cut it ...I mean as they say in the guides...look for addresses where you depart from and arrive right?

lui93
to cut means the file size of 2 mega and bring it up to a 1 mega but mpps do not you write it.

cinqueturbo
I can't read it with Mpps v13.02 ... recognizes the id of the ecu...but the laws' disabled...

Seen that recognizes the ECU before attempting to write I would say to post the data.. I would not be a 8DF

Khendal
Seen that recognizes the ECU before attempting to write I would say to post the data.. I would not be a 8DF

What is the meaning of this thing 8DF?

In fact, you're right...it's just that I think... the data that I have are:

Fiat Hardware Number: 51872447
Marelli Hardware Number: MJD6F3HW04P
Marelli Software Number: 354AB598
Fiat Identification Number: 8DF.C2
Fiat Iso Code: 68079807E3

Seen that there are... what are the numbers important? So far I've seen that are very important, the last 3 digits of the hardware and software of the ecu.. in this case 04P-page 598 ... the others are useful for what?

Greetings

lui93
it was strange that 2008 is a 8df then a 75 hp..
anyway, this ecu scrrivi easily with mpps without any problems..

cinqueturbo
What is the meaning of this thing 8DF?

In fact, you're right...it's just that I think... the data that I have are:

Fiat Hardware Number: 51872447
Marelli Hardware Number: MJD6F3HW04P
Marelli Software Number: 354AB598
Fiat Identification Number: 8DF.C2
Fiat Iso Code: 68079807E3

Seen that there are... what are the numbers important? So far I've seen that are very important, the last 3 digits of the hardware and software of the ecu.. in this case 04P-page 598 ... the others are useful for what?

Greetings

Then mene happened to have some of these are of the ECU pre-step to the 8DF, but basically both HW and SW are 6F3..
if you would have other equipment for pararti your ass I would say make a Backup and then test with MPPS.. otherwise you may leave with a bitter taste in the mouth when it crashes..
354AB598 with this code in the SW know everything and don't need another
MJD6F3HW04P HW would be "Box type and Pinout of the ECU"
51872447 code replacement Fiat
8DF.C2 Identification of the vehicle and the Engine.. which in practice has the turbine above the exhaust manifold etc., "6F3 under"
68079807E3 as rightly says the word "Fiat Iso Code"

lui93
do you think that mpps may create problems???
I believe that on the marelli does not give problems, well, obvious if you have the tools, the more advanced the better, at least, would not have problems

cinqueturbo
do you think that mpps may create problems???
I believe that on the marelli does not give problems, well, obvious if you have the tools, the more advanced the better, at least, would not have problems

You who have the same drive and perhaps you have already done tests you know more of me..
confirm that the Turbine on the exhaust?

cinqueturbo
do you think that mpps may create problems???
I believe that on the marelli does not give problems, well, obvious if you have the tools, the more advanced the better, at least, would not have problems

To see that the real 8DF they also have a Marelli does not do it with MPPS

lui93
exact, I confirm the Fixed geometry turbine and own them.
right with MPPS you stop to mjd6 but anke and very limited in the list of car

dragusdrake

Khendal


And would you go with what?

lui93
I've done a lot without ever having problems...

dragusdrake
First of all, some mpps even the law, the v18 is still I'm testing it but already locked in the actual reading on a 6jf, mj8 the v13 I think even he knows, the v13 on the 6jf law, only those with file is 448 kb, and then the mjet1, the mjet2 with turbine over the engine with the only writes. I recommend galletto or kess

Khendal
First of all, some mpps even the law, the v18 is still I'm testing it but already locked in the actual reading on a 6jf, mj8 the v13 I think even he knows, the v13 on the 6jf law, only those with file is 448 kb, and then the mjet1, the mjet2 with turbine over the engine with the only writes. I recommend galletto or kess

In fact, I'm attrezzanado with the Kess... I'm also tempted by the v18... it is already locked? How's it going?

msport (exil77grande)
In fact, I'm attrezzanado with the Kess... I'm also tempted by the v18... it is already locked? How's it going?

please let's not go off topic.

dragusdrake
In fact, I'm attrezzanado with the Kess... I'm also tempted by the v18... it is already locked? How's it going?

the v18 has me locked in reading real a 6jf and you are scodificati the injectors

lui93
with the cloning tools, you are shaking hands!!!
THEY ARE NOT SURE EVER.

Errecinque
the v18 has me locked in reading real a 6jf and you are scodificati the injectors

Tell us how you recovered....so you expose the problem and solution

dragusdrake
Tell us how you recovered....so you expose the problem and solution

I had to recode the injectors with hexaminer official fiat

Errecinque
I had to recode the injectors with hexaminer official fiat

So not even the v18 has the tool to read the file injectors

dragusdrake

Khendal

dragusdrake
Read these units can lose the encoding injectors if the reading is interrupted

Khendal
Read these units can lose the encoding injectors if the reading is interrupted

Khendal
Then mene happened to have some of these are of the ECU pre-step to the 8DF, but basically both HW and SW are 6F3..
if you would have other equipment for pararti your ass I would say make a Backup and then test with MPPS.. otherwise you may leave with a bitter taste in the mouth when it crashes..
354AB598 with this code in the SW know everything and don't need another
MJD6F3HW04P HW would be "Box type and Pinout of the ECU"
51872447 code replacement Fiat
8DF.C2 Identification of the vehicle and the Engine.. which in practice has the turbine above the exhaust manifold etc., "6F3 under"
68079807E3 as rightly says the word "Fiat Iso Code"

Anyway, I on this unit are still on the high seas... I don't understand well what to search for to find the file ori online, and that 6f3 and 8df send me in confusion...because they have done such a thing, mixing generations?


dragusdrake
The 6 with the 8 are similar but not the same, better explained on what you want to search for... But on both you can find anything so if you are looking well, you'll have the answers to everything

For coding injectors it means that these engines have the injectors coded if I change them you have to recode if they lose the encoding....you have to get them recoded
The encoding is a code that is located above the injector the same

Khendal
The 6 with the 8 are similar but not the same, better explained on what you want to search for... But on both you can find anything so if you are looking well, you'll have the answers to everything

For coding injectors it means that these engines have the injectors coded if I change them you have to recode if they lose the encoding....you have to get them recoded
The encoding is a code that is located above the injector the same

Then, let's recap and let's start to degrees.



At the moment I have 500 of my mother where want to try... and I realized that not' the most' easy to do because of the type of the control unit, reads and writes to the serial or bdm(not even I understood it), maps to be cut etc...

Then the first step that I now understand and'... to recognize the type of the ecu from the information that I have


And then figure out what data is essential to keep in mind...so from what I understand is that as ECM for the driver you use the last 3 digits of HW and SW of the controller...right? So in this case 04P-598?

Now for not wanting to do damage, I would like to buy an additional control unit and experiment with that...is the bdm that scriptures etc...but what is it compatible? Example of these are those found on ebay..but there are other numbers and codes that I don't know if you need more or less...others seem to be only the final parts of other numbers...


Or can I take any and do a full backup from my to the new?


dragusdrake
You're widely off the topic, open another post and explain the doubts. In the meantime, I can tell you that your is a 6f3, the laws in the virtual (non-mpps), and so you do not have problems scodifica injectors. Then edit your file and it loads on the car. For experiments get another controller but then you can put it on your if you do not do immo off (remove the immobilizer, the key code in short)

Khendal
You're widely off the topic, open another post and explain the doubts. In the meantime, I can tell you that your is a 6f3, the laws in the virtual (non-mpps), and so you do not have problems scodifica injectors. Then edit your file and it loads on the car. For experiments get another controller but then you can put it on your if you do not do immo off (remove the immobilizer, the key code in short)

Why are they off topic?
the initial questions were 2...

Found that the first related to the use of MPPS v13 with negative response (in part) ... the point two and that's what I asked now posting the screen.

Errecinque
Then, let's recap and let's start to degrees.



At the moment I have 500 of my mother where want to try... and I realized that not' the most' easy to do because of the type of the control unit, reads and writes to the serial or bdm(not even I understood it), maps to be cut etc...

Then the first step that I now understand and'... to recognize the type of the ecu from the information that I have


And then figure out what data is essential to keep in mind...so from what I understand is that as ECM for the driver you use the last 3 digits of HW and SW of the controller...right? So in this case 04P-598?

Now for not wanting to do damage, I would like to buy an additional control unit and experiment with that...is the bdm that scriptures etc...but what is it compatible? Example of these are those found on ebay..but there are other numbers and codes that I don't know if you need more or less...others seem to be only the final parts of other numbers...


Or can I take any and do a full backup from my to the new?



As you may have already been said, the MPPS for that machine is not recommended, it does not read the real file, it can only write to a file and cut, it can operate at the counter in the bdm for any release operations and backup. You should buy at least a rooster that we can do it all and look for an ecu in shambles you have all the data in the screen. The number hw is 04P sw is 354AB598. Among other things, it seems to me that the marelli with the same hw support all the sw and then just find a hw04p

Errecinque
In your case, however, if you can find it with the same sw (there is a label on the ecu with all the data) so much the better, in the bdm, you already do a bk full that you can scodificare and use it directly on your machine for the various tests of the mapping without touching the original