View The Full Version : edit limiter, smoke - threshold lambda alfa 159 1.9 150cv 16v
Hi guys,
I already have a mappetta that goes pretty good on my alfa 159 1.9 16v 150cv. The only mechanical change made was the elimination of the DPF with a straight pipe. Then are disabled in the regeneration and closed the EGR. For the rest it is a map that is not extreme.
What I have read and re-read in the posts is the modification of the limiters of smoke(lambda) in my map are original. I have read that by changing these values, the machine goes better bass etc etc and since that is very slow between 1000 and 2000 rpm (I think it is due to the absence of the dpf and the fact that the swirl have been blocked) I would like to improve the situation.
I use ECM TITANIUM, and these maps (2) the call limiter smoke - threshold lambda and upper threshold lambda, lower.
I honestly do not know how to edit...I have read that some have made reference to 1 (is right with the dpf deleted?) but I don't know for all practical purposes as you do. Unfortunately I can not view the maps of others, otherwise I'd not be disturbed.
Some pious soul, I would post a photo example ? I do not pretend to who knows who...right to modify these parameters to make the car go better .
thanks a lot in advance
I move the discussion in the section most appropriate for the rest I can tell you that based on what you want to achieve you these are not the maps, where to intervene and at the moment I advise you to leave the original,also not yet having the necessary requirements, any image you can view, but if you want to understand more, begin to attach your file ori and mod and so someone can give you some advice to improve the map and maybe solve your problem.
I move the discussion in the section most appropriate for the rest I can tell you that based on what you want to achieve you these are not the maps, where to intervene and at the moment I advise you to leave the original,also not yet having the necessary requirements, any image you can view, but if you want to understand more, begin to attach your file ori and mod and so someone can give you some advice to improve the map and maybe solve your problem.
here are the maps.
since the maps smoke does not serve to improve the responsiveness at the low , then what are they for?
thanks
I hope someone can give me a hand and understand where to improve ! I anyway, I did research on the forum and some say that vary the values of the maps that smoking affects performance...boooo
ps. if you notice the torque limiter was a little bit strange is because between 1750 2750 rpm, the clutch slips a bit...
I don't know if at the end of the slip clutch is caused by other factors!
I hope someone can give me a hand and understand where to improve ! I anyway, I did research on the forum and some say that vary the values of the maps that smoking affects performance...boooo
ps. if you notice the torque limiter was a little bit strange is because between 1750 2750 rpm, the clutch slips a bit...
I don't know if at the end of the slip clutch is caused by other factors!
well, if you already have the clutch slipping, if you want to more readiness to the pedal first, change it, because according to me to begin with are precisely the maps pedal you hurt you have given little increase in low rpm and low percentages, and have increased from 5000rpm up that serves no purpose and, consequently, to adapt the lim to the couple to request that you make to the pedal. Torque for first and second gear the liberals as the other gears. The q.s fuel injected has been calculated to 100 mm3 and then you can put it back golds because you have not raised the lim iq out of the driver. turbo you can go up to 150 points. variable geometry as you made it does nothing.
from 1E3198 there are 4 maps 25x1 that you have put to zero (also a BP you reset from 25 to 0 replace it) that I would like to know what they mean (they are not the panettone egr)
Always, with due humility, is my thought
well, if you already have the clutch slipping, if you want to more readiness to the pedal first, change it, because according to me to begin with are precisely the maps pedal you hurt you have given little increase in low rpm and low percentages, and have increased from 5000rpm up that serves no purpose and, consequently, to adapt the lim to the couple to request that you make to the pedal. Torque for first and second gear the liberals as the other gears. The q.s fuel injected has been calculated to 100 mm3 and then you can put it back golds because you have not raised the lim iq out of the driver. turbo you can go up to 150 points. variable geometry as you made it does nothing.
from 1E3198 there are 4 maps 25x1 that you have put to zero (also a BP you reset from 25 to 0 replace it) that I would like to know what they mean (they are not the panettone egr)
Always, with due humility, is my thought
innanzer itutto thank you for lost time in the view of my map.
so..since I use ecm titanium for maps pedal you mean the item called "torque request during standard conditions and "required torque to the functionality sports A and B"?
found this have said that they are badly made perchèho given a few increments at low speed and low percentages...but reading a little everywhere, everyone is saying that at low revs you should not overdo it with the increases..in any case, with that logic you alzeresti values? for example...(speaking in percentage) alzeresti type a 2000 rpm 20% and aumenteresti then gradually?
then as you adjust the torque limiter in these maps the pedal?
for example, if 2500giri there is an increase of 6.5 %, even in the maps on the pedal I have to increase 6.5% and constantly for the entire row?
couple the first and second gear ok
the amount of fuel does not go well as it was increased?and what address do I find the lim iq out of the driver?and how should I increase it?
the variable geometry it is better to keep the original?I had it raised just a peletto thinking about giving a small improvement
regarding the other maps I don't know, not even I because I had seen the map a guy that works at the alpha and it has changed him.
thanks
innanzer itutto thank you for lost time in the view of my map.
so..since I use ecm titanium for maps pedal you mean the item called "torque request during standard conditions and "required torque to the functionality sports A and B"?
found this have said that they are badly made perchèho given a few increments at low speed and low percentages...but reading a little everywhere, everyone is saying that at low revs you should not overdo it with the increases..in any case, with that logic you alzeresti values? for example...(speaking in percentage) alzeresti type a 2000 rpm 20% and aumenteresti then gradually?
then as you adjust the torque limiter in these maps the pedal?
for example, if 2500giri there is an increase of 6.5 %, even in the maps on the pedal I have to increase 6.5% and constantly for the entire row?
couple the first and second gear ok
the amount of fuel does not go well as it was increased?and what address do I find the lim iq out of the driver?and how should I increase it?
the variable geometry it is better to keep the original?I had it raised just a peletto thinking about giving a small improvement
regarding the other maps I don't know, not even I because I had seen the map a guy that works at the alpha and it has changed him.
thanks
Do not increase low rpm is true,but thou hast increased from 400 rpm....
If you like the pedal is sensitive, you have to start from 1000/1500 and 10% of the pedal. Obvious not to overdo it and going in crescendo until 100% where to put everything to the max value of the pair that you want to ask. The torque limiter of the ****** from 2000-2500. If I have a problem of slippage then I change the ones for gear. And still have to be made many trials to find the right feeling that you like it
Ok, thanks.
Just to better understand the values, correct to map the pedal...
First of all the corresponding maps on the vein titanium are the ones mentioned in the previous post?
In addition, starting from 10% of the pedal and 1000/1500giri with what increments should I exactly start? Type for esempiodal 12% and up to 25%? About the torque limiter, I don't understand. Thanks a lot
I forgot another thing... The fact that between 1000 and 1800 rpm or so, the machine is dead may depend on the fact that the map is too fat in that range, and then sinking the accelerator tends to hesitate? Is a line of reasoning is typical when you map the ecu of the bike. I don't know if also applies to the machines. For this I thought you were to change the map with the lambda top and bottom (so called with ecm titanium). In any case, what are these maps and how they change? The fact of not having the Dpf is physically and electronically, seems to me to have a connection with them.
The maps lambda need to be able to keep the afr in the various steps.
And they should not touch them? And the rest of my questions? :-)
And they should not touch them? And the rest of my questions? :-)
maps pedal are the ones that you mentioned, and as the area of the increase I think that we then of course, the logic of increase is not good and you also see how you like it and also have increased starting from too low, as already you had made a note,map, lambda, I already gave a tip then if you want to follow good, otherwise do as you see fit,the torque limiter is done badly I noticed the lowest point as the increments for the address clutch, but then either the exchange rate or increases the good, the torque limiter but with increases more low,torque limiter 1 and 2 is not going well and at this point you can put back the original,one of the limiters of diesel, you'll find him immediately after that kind of limiter pair that you have changed out the driver giving him the 5% fixed,the diesel can go but I don't know if you've noticed that there are increases in the negative than the original and then fix it,the timing of an overboost you have given increments insignificativi but if you want them you can leave so,the maps rail beamlines are 2,the second adjust as the first,this is the good work.
And they should not touch them? And the rest of my questions? :-)
My advice, as I already said is to start with the maps the pedal torque request.......) the lim torque maps, turbo (if you look in 2d I find another before the one in the driver), and the maps of the rail with its limiters. This to learn to feel how the car reacts to changes in the map and so you don't do damage. And then continue with the rest, maybe beginning to apply the various formulas that you find on the forum about the calculations afr, duration, injections, etc, etc, Impossible to understand everything at once. And you're lucky that you have a driver that is complete enough and clear on the car
ok..thanks to all...I try to change a bit
I forgot...
You said:"one of the limiters of diesel, you'll find him immediately after that kind of limiter pair that you have changed out the driver giving him the 5% fixed"
Can you tell me exactly what address is it located? Unfortunately I do not remember well,
In addition to the ecm about the pressure thai is giving me a map... where is the other?
Is to finish and not get bored more, how to map the pedal, for example, if arrival at the max at 18 to 20% increase okay ?
Grazieeee
No pressure thai haha...damn the t9! I mean rail pressure
I look forward to the news.
PS. True speech does not increase at low revs but then to improve precisely the readiness to low where and how you should intervene? Thanks
Happened to me on some of the croma and the 159 150 that eliminating the dpf egr and swirl l is "svuotatassero" at the bottom..
When that happens, do a 3-4% more on the maps vgt from 0 to 1500 rpm and from 0 to 15mm3
I look forward to the news.
PS. True speech does not increase at low revs but then to improve precisely the readiness to low where and how you should intervene? Thanks
On my own I started with 1000 rpm and 10% pedal to hear the answer to the minimum pressure.....obviously something light and then gradually increasing. For that, I say to you that you need to do a little testing to find one you like
Ok... starting from 1000 Rpm and 10% pedal, but with that increase in terms of percentage? Type from the 6/7% up to gradually get to 20% ? The tests I'm doing, the machine is improving, but I always have the problem between 1000 and 1800 rpm where it is dead!
Also ecm titanium what would be the maps vgt?
As well as that of the limiter of the diesel out of the driver ... would you tell Me the address?
Thanks
Ok... starting from 1000 Rpm and 10% pedal, but with that increase in terms of percentage? Type from the 6/7% up to gradually get to 20% ? The tests I'm doing, the machine is improving, but I always have the problem between 1000 and 1800 rpm where it is dead!
Also ecm titanium what would be the maps vgt?
As well as that of the limiter of the diesel out of the driver ... would you tell Me the address?
Thanks
ps.su ecm titanium map the call control variable geometry (VGT) that should be cited in munro, but an increase of 0.7% almost all (I don't think it makes sense to you, but I'm afraid I have to scrub the turbine)...
I would like to increase, says munro from 0 to 1500 rpm and from 0 to 15 mm3 to about 3/4% but when I go to both in table and in 2d on ecm titanium starts from 1000 rpm and 5mm3? how could I do?
in short...I want to solve the problem of slow from 1000 to 1800 rpm...that's about it. However, I ask only the courtesy of telling me in terms of the percentage of the possible gains as did munro so I is easier to edit. It's true what they say errecinque to do the tests (which all in all I'm doing) but I'm not going to upload too many maps on the ecu for fear that when writing something goes wrong!
thanks for the patience
ps.su ecm titanium map the call control variable geometry (VGT) that should be cited in munro, but an increase of 0.7% almost all (I don't think it makes sense to you, but I'm afraid I have to scrub the turbine)...
I would like to increase, says munro from 0 to 1500 rpm and from 0 to 15 mm3 to about 3/4% but when I go to both in table and in 2d on ecm titanium starts from 1000 rpm and 5mm3? how could I do?
in short...I want to solve the problem of slow from 1000 to 1800 rpm...that's about it. However, I ask only the courtesy of telling me in terms of the percentage of the possible gains as did munro so I is easier to edit. It's true what they say errecinque to do the tests (which all in all I'm doing) but I'm not going to upload too many maps on the ecu for fear that when writing something goes wrong!
thanks for the patience
Parties to modify the vgt from 1000 rpm to 1500-2000 rpm and 5mm3 up to 15mm3 a 3-4% more than the rest of the map vgt return it ori..
In short, you have to make a way to stay slightly more closed geometry turbine in the range of rpm where you feel the vacuum if it is not enough to be helped with a bit of diesel in the most transient
Parties to modify the vgt from 1000 rpm to 1500-2000 rpm and 5mm3 up to 15mm3 a 3-4% more than the rest of the map vgt return it ori..
In short, you have to make a way to stay slightly more closed geometry turbine in the range of rpm where you feel the vacuum if it is not enough to be helped with a bit of diesel in the most transient
thanks a lot..
regarding the increases in the pedal, according to you, starting from about the 6% increase and reach approximately 20% okay?
but the increments must be the same for all the rows starting from 1000/1500 revs increasing from 10% up to 100% gradually or increase gradually on both columns and rows? I hope I explained it well!
about the diesel that you say in that range , ecm titanium is reported to map "fuel injected" to the address 1CDBF6 or at the time of injection?
thanks a lot..
regarding the increases in the pedal, according to you, starting from about the 6% increase and reach approximately 20% okay?
but the increments must be the same for all the rows starting from 1000/1500 revs increasing from 10% up to 100% gradually or increase gradually on both columns and rows? I hope I explained it well!
about the diesel that you say in that range , ecm titanium is reported to map "fuel injected" to the address 1CDBF6 or at the time of injection?
oh, I forgot, and sorry for the post in more..
the 2 limiters of diesel are at the address that it goes 1CC032 to 1CC0AE and 1CC114 to 1CC216? if ok, as they increase? type all of the 3/4%?
in the expectation of tips, I'll post the map that I edited and uploaded...the car seems to go better but I have not been able to test it to duty in the fifth and sixth gear..
suggestions please
in the expectation of tips, I'll post the map that I edited and uploaded...the car seems to go better but I have not been able to test it to duty in the fifth and sixth gear..
suggestions please
and anyway in general it must be better, but despite the fact that, as suggeritomi from munro, I have increased to 4% the VGT in the range concerned, the machine is always very slow before 1800 rpm...I was been suggested that in this case I should increase the diesel fuel in this range but to be honest on ecm titanium I do not remember exactly which map I have to tap...
ps. but how ever if you are with a wire throttle to the minimum, type in second gear, I feel as if he and not the diesel? in practice, the machine seems to accelerate slightly and then brake, and so on, and this thing with the wire of the accelerator repeats itself..what can it be? then if accellero the machine rooms of laps on a regular basis without hesitation!
Are you sure that mechanically everything is ok? Do a log or get in the car with another and monitor some parameters, type the required torque effective torque,quantity of fuel,pressure goal is the actual turbo goal is effective,controls the vgt is from the log that physically are you sure that works correctly? all the tubes are ok? The variable geometry and free to move correctly? Monitors the mass intake air with the egr closed it must stay on the 450-500mg at a minimum and about 1200-1300mg to full throttle.. it controls everything perfectly, even putting the map ori, if all ok then adjusts a bit of the map...
Are you sure that mechanically everything is ok? Do a log or get in the car with another and monitor some parameters, type the required torque effective torque,quantity of fuel,pressure goal is the actual turbo goal is effective,controls the vgt is from the log that physically are you sure that works correctly? all the tubes are ok? The variable geometry and free to move correctly? Monitors the mass intake air with the egr closed it must stay on the 450-500mg at a minimum and about 1200-1300mg to full throttle.. it controls everything perfectly, even putting the map ori, if all ok then adjusts a bit of the map...
I had everything checked a little while ago and it was ok... The parameters with *********** they were good! The only thing is that the rod of the pneumatic valve of the turbo I can't see why the alfa 159 is hidden
I forgot... So if everything is ok what should I do in the map? Give more diesel means the maps pedal? If ok how much should I increase and in what range? Thanks
strange that everything is ok and even after the mod the vgt will continue to complain about power gaps at the bottom..
are you sure that is all ok also ****s press the rail from the defect that you say there seems to be the pressure regulator that is not 100%..
however, to give it diesel you can intervene in various ways logically you have to start from the pedal then you have to adapt slightly the maps lambda as well as the torque limiter main..the pedal I do not increase in the percentage imposed on a torque value that I know corresponds to a given iq..so to properly change you have to make a log, because if you don't know how much torque and thus fuel request in the turns where moans the problem then go to aumntare all in % I do not think of the results you hoped for, or at least not on the first attempt..so you have to study a bit is the machine otherwise does not solve..
strange that everything is ok and even after the mod the vgt will continue to complain about power gaps at the bottom..
are you sure that is all ok also ****s press the rail from the defect that you say there seems to be the pressure regulator that is not 100%..
however, to give it diesel you can intervene in various ways logically you have to start from the pedal then you have to adapt slightly the maps lambda as well as the torque limiter main..the pedal I do not increase in the percentage imposed on a torque value that I know corresponds to a given iq..so to properly change you have to make a log, because if you don't know how much torque and thus fuel request in the turns where moans the problem then go to aumntare all in % I do not think of the results you hoped for, or at least not on the first attempt..so you have to study a bit is the machine otherwise does not solve..
The pressure regulator which would be accurate? If it is the valve pierburg where are attached the tubes-depressant is new... Replaced a few months ago! Regarding the lambda, I know that it is delicate and I don't know to change them. Too much to ask if you do just a little adjustment to the maps concerned? I do not pretend absolutely to cover the entire map.. god forbid and thank you x your patience
pressure regulator diesel there are two versions of the port on the rail directly is the port attached to the fuel pump in both cases the regulator has a filter microscopic that sometimes you ostruice and sometimes the rubber seal and leaving to make the fault that you say..for the finishing touches to the map I think you should get them if you will remodeling I the map first, you will never understand the what to do if you would like to fix the whole thing and the second thing, I don't think is correct in relation to other users who may have resolved their problem on their own but with the support of the forum..
I and the others we can follow with the changes in map before writing the right one take a map test and post if I other people are ready to help you and direct you to the mod correct
pressure regulator diesel there are two versions of the port on the rail directly is the port attached to the fuel pump in both cases the regulator has a filter microscopic that sometimes you ostruice and sometimes the rubber seal and leaving to make the fault that you say..for the finishing touches to the map I think you should get them if you will remodeling I the map first, you will never understand the what to do if you would like to fix the whole thing and the second thing, I don't think is correct in relation to other users who may have resolved their problem on their own but with the support of the forum..
I and the others we can follow with the changes in map before writing the right one take a map test and post if I other people are ready to help you and direct you to the mod correct
Unfortunately I have not understood what the pressure regulator rail? Is not that it is the one on the intake manifold with a spinet electric ? Honestly if you can post a picture we would appreciate it. About the map ok.. I will Give of the changes and I will post. but all in all, the map that I have done evil evil is not ,True?
Unfortunately I have not understood what the pressure regulator rail? Is not that it is the one on the intake manifold with a spinet electric ? Honestly if you can post a picture we would appreciate it. About the map ok.. I will Give of the changes and I will post. but all in all, the map that I have done evil evil is not ,True?
from the pedal require a torque value that is the limiter, not reach.....the high does not exploit all
torque limiter to the wheel out of the driver, I don't know what is it and how does it change (waiting for munro) but it is not gold . where have you copied? sure that goes in the negative?
torque limiter to the wheel out of the driver, I don't know what is it and how does it change (waiting for munro) but it is not gold . where have you copied? sure that goes in the negative?
Forgive me, but to avoid errors I point out the addresses of the maps you mentioned? What do you mean that high not I take it all?
Forgive me, but to avoid errors I point out the addresses of the maps you mentioned? What do you mean that high not I take it all?
1CBA82
For me the lim of the main couple from 2500 to 4500 at the max value required by the pedal if you want to reach up to 4500 rpm
1CBA82
For me the lim of the main couple from 2500 to 4500 at the max value required by the pedal if you want to reach up to 4500 rpm
the map 1CBA82 I...to me does not seem in a negative and in any case, I don't know why you changed so...this map I had been retouched by a guy that prepares machines at the alpha of Salerno, and then we wait for information from the experts.
about the lim couple main you mean the one with the address that it goes 1CBD8E?
I've going on the maps pedal I put, for example, at 2500 rpm and at 100,10 %, an increase of 15.5%. At 2500giri of the map "torque limiter" is mentioned, I put a 15% increase, and so I did for all the revs of the engine...the logic is wrong? you, how would you do?
do you mean that if the maximum percentage of map the pedal is up 18.5% at 4750 rpm (as set up now on my map), I should increase to 2500 rpm and to 100,10% all 18.5%?
ps.I still don't know mechanically where is the pressure regulator rail
the map 1CBA82 I...to me does not seem in a negative and in any case, I don't know why you changed so...this map I had been retouched by a guy that prepares machines at the alpha of Salerno, and then we wait for information from the experts.
about the lim couple main you mean the one with the address that it goes 1CBD8E?
I've going on the maps pedal I put, for example, at 2500 rpm and at 100,10 %, an increase of 15.5%. At 2500giri of the map "torque limiter" is mentioned, I put a 15% increase, and so I did for all the revs of the engine...the logic is wrong? you, how would you do?
do you mean that if the maximum percentage of map the pedal is up 18.5% at 4750 rpm (as set up now on my map), I should increase to 2500 rpm and to 100,10% all 18.5%?
ps.I still don't know mechanically where is the pressure regulator rail
Look at the absolute values, not percentages.....if you ask 450 nm from the pedal to the limiter, you have to set it to that value if no did not maintain the required torque
The map chebti dicevonva view with +/- checked
Look at the absolute values, not percentages.....if you ask 450 nm from the pedal to the limiter, you have to set it to that value if no did not maintain the required torque
Ok... But 450 nm, in general, are many? Or to be good?
anyway, I had a look at the map ORI.
your speech: "Look at the absolute values, not percentages.....if you ask 450 nm from the pedal to the limiter, you have to set it to that value if no did not maintain the required torque "
does not seem to actually corresponding to what you say. I'll definitely be layman on the subject but I saw on the map "required torque in standard conditions" that would be one of the maps pedal , to, for example, 100,10% of 2000 rpm there are 390,5 nm while in the map "torque limiter maximum" there are 370 nm, then less than the request from the pedal and let's talk about the map made in alpha...probably I don't understand well the maps, however, I would appreciate more clarity ;-)
thanks a lot
anyway, I had a look at the map ORI.
your speech: "Look at the absolute values, not percentages.....if you ask 450 nm from the pedal to the limiter, you have to set it to that value if no did not maintain the required torque "
does not seem to actually corresponding to what you say. I'll definitely be layman on the subject but I saw on the map "required torque in standard conditions" that would be one of the maps pedal , to, for example, 100,10% of 2000 rpm there are 390,5 nm while in the map "torque limiter maximum" there are 370 nm, then less than the request from the pedal and let's talk about the map made in alpha...probably I don't understand well the maps, however, I would appreciate more clarity ;-)
thanks a lot
In the expectation of a reply I tried to edit as suggeritomi hoping you understand.
I changed just to test a single map pedal that ecm titanium called "torque request during standard conditions" and I adjusted the torque limiter.
I have taken account of nm and not a percentage. I would like to understand now if the logic of reasoning and variation of the map is correct and also if so how it could go well or is it too much push.
Consequently, if it is ok to proceed in the change equal to the other maps pedal that ecm titanium called the "required torque during the acceleration", "the required torque to the functionality Sports A and Sports B". I had read that these maps need to be changed all the same.
I also changed the two map that ecm calls "limiter, smoke - threshold lambda upper and lower". These honestly I've changed by copying them from a map that I found myself in my date base.I hope you are right.
thanks a lot for the patience
Hello, given that I am an inexperienced user and in phase of study as I think of you, take what I say with the necessary precautions. Having said that in all the maps that I have seen the GOLD of mother Alpha, map the pedal always has the most torque limiter as you have rightly already noticed as well you, then I think the logic is that the pedal should always ask for a little more torque than the rev limiter. For example, if I want to 4000 rpm 400Nm of torque septum this value in the torque limiter and the pedal, for example setterò 405, and then always something more, because if I did the opposite, i.e. the pedal asks for 395 Nm, and the limiter 400 does not actually limit anything because the value required by the pedal is already below the limit.
I hope I was clear.
I also add that in the set values of the torque limiter according to me you should take into account how much fuel you want to inject it, because then in a subsequent step, the control unit converts the torque request in the amount of fuel to be injected by means of a special map. And if this map is not touched on the last break point is set in 80mm3.
I try to make an example (numbers taken at random, just as an example) to see if I can explain myself. Let's say that at 4000 rpm set limiter to 400Nm, with the value in the map the pedal to 405Nm. The map conversion torque/diesel me as a value 83,70mm3, then when the ecu will look for the time to inject the amount of fuel that will for the 1600 bar of pressure, and 80mm3 a value of 863 microseconds. But how much will it be for 83,70mm3? Boh the ecu does not know why the last break point, precisely, is 80, and there was another calculated column will take the last available value and that is always 863 microseconds, but doing so at the end it will eventually inject a maximum of 80mm3 because the time of that opening. The solutions are 2, or change the break point of the map injection times and calcolarseli for more than 80mm3 or in the first phase of the study simply want to inject a maximum of 80mm3 (assuming, of course, that then this is possible because it is said that there is enough air to burn it all). In this case, the making of calculations starting from the map conversion torque/diesel in back (I have built excel spreadsheets for these calculations) I get for example that if the septum to 4000 rpm with a value of 386,1 Nm I get as the amount of diesel just 80mm3, and always for example at 3500 rpm 395,4 Nm I will always 80mm3. What I mean is that without changing the map injection times this will also limiter, and then in fact I do not allow you to overcome the 80mm3 so you do not overdo it with the values in the torque limiter, why not get no appreciable advantage. As I said before, put at 4,000 rpm 400Nm or 386,1 in the end I think it will produce the same effect.
according to me for a map calculated and informed indication of the torque limiter, you can also "unlock" in a way that does not interfere. We think the other maps, including the lim iq to make the correct limitations, if calculated well
according to me for a map calculated and informed indication of the torque limiter, you can also "unlock" in a way that does not interfere. We think the other maps, including the lim iq to make the correct limitations, if calculated well
What address are the limiters for diesel?
I've seen the map is not too bad..but there are some things to review..
in the meantime, begin to put ori the table, dtc cheparte from the address 1c88da
then you touched on the map calculation of torque of internal friction that is 1cba82 is a map that serves to the ecu for its calculations, especially when the car is cold at the moment, no need to change it..
you skipped the torque limiter that is located immediately after the map 1cbcba edit it...
the axis of the torque limiter main return it ori as you did serves no purpose..
you missed the limiters of the first and second gear and I don't understand the meaning since they are set at 260 and 290 nm, if they don't unlock even if the pedal request 450nm around and from the lim couple to act 420nm about 100mm3 of fuel you won't see them ever in first and second gear arrange them..
maps lambda I is usually imposed on all the lambda-1, or of 14.5 for afr if sfucchiano a little raised where it is needed and if I need more diesel the down where you need it here you need to log the car and fsarti two calculations to figure out how to edit them correctly.
map 1e1592 return it ori.
pressure turbo you got up to 135 points I do not really like the same thing pre the rail pressure got up in a fixed manner and is also of little use in the interpolation of the titanium and by increases from 3 to 6-7%.
maps vgt ok if you need more thrust down by another 2-3% more..
the map in the game you missed..
as well as all of the limiters for diesel but no one has been modified, but very little..
the map injection times are you game to change from 250bar to rail and from 5mm3 iq that is in the machine stop virtually parts to 400bar, and the 10-15mm3 also you get to change the curves injection related to 1800bar not need a visa that does not arrive at that pressure there would be to upgrade the axis of the press in the times, to adapt it eriscalarlo more so as time but for now we'll leave that alone..
I've seen the map is not too bad..but there are some things to review..
in the meantime, begin to put ori the table, dtc cheparte from the address 1c88da
then you touched on the map calculation of torque of internal friction that is 1cba82 is a map that serves to the ecu for its calculations, especially when the car is cold at the moment, no need to change it..
you skipped the torque limiter that is located immediately after the map 1cbcba edit it...
the axis of the torque limiter main return it ori as you did serves no purpose..
you missed the limiters of the first and second gear and I don't understand the meaning since they are set at 260 and 290 nm, if they don't unlock even if the pedal request 450nm around and from the lim couple to act 420nm about 100mm3 of fuel you won't see them ever in first and second gear arrange them..
maps lambda I is usually imposed on all the lambda-1, or of 14.5 for afr if sfucchiano a little raised where it is needed and if I need more diesel the down where you need it here you need to log the car and fsarti two calculations to figure out how to edit them correctly.
map 1e1592 return it ori.
pressure turbo you got up to 135 points I do not really like the same thing pre the rail pressure got up in a fixed manner and is also of little use in the interpolation of the titanium and by increases from 3 to 6-7%.
maps vgt ok if you need more thrust down by another 2-3% more..
the map in the game you missed..
as well as all of the limiters for diesel but no one has been modified, but very little..
the map injection times are you game to change from 250bar to rail and from 5mm3 iq that is in the machine stop virtually parts to 400bar, and the 10-15mm3 also you get to change the curves injection related to 1800bar not need a visa that does not arrive at that pressure there would be to upgrade the axis of the press in the times, to adapt it eriscalarlo more so as time but for now we'll leave that alone..
first of all, thanks very much.
so..I changed the map 1CBCBA and I increased all of the 4%..it is okay or what should I put?
the axis of the torque limiter main what would it be? is the one address that goes to 1CBD00 to 1CBD28 and that is increased 3%?
the maps lmabda I changed...right?
the maps limiters for diesel, are a to the address that it goes 1CC052 to 1CC0AC, and the other by 1CC116 to 1CC214?? if ok, in this case how can I change it?Increase in all the curves, for example, of 4%?
about the swirl I have to clear to zero the map that goes from 1E79E2a 1E7B2E?
I have also given a bit of advance on the map that ecm titanium called "phase injection - Inienzione main base map 1,2,3,4, and 5"? going well for you?
also, I made ritocchini at the time of injection
I hope I have understood something and that I'm moving in the right way!
first of all, thanks very much.
so..I changed the map 1CBCBA and I increased all of the 4%..it is okay or what should I put?
the axis of the torque limiter main what would it be? is the one address that goes to 1CBD00 to 1CBD28 and that is increased 3%?
the maps lmabda I changed...right?
the maps limiters for diesel, are a to the address that it goes 1CC052 to 1CC0AC, and the other by 1CC116 to 1CC214?? if ok, in this case how can I change it?Increase in all the curves, for example, of 4%?
about the swirl I have to clear to zero the map that goes from 1E79E2a 1E7B2E?
I have also given a bit of advance on the map that ecm titanium called "phase injection - Inienzione main base map 1,2,3,4, and 5"? going well for you?
also, I made ritocchini at the time of injection
I hope I have understood something and that I'm moving in the right way!
In the expectation of a pious soul, I could not resist and I made other changes...type limiters of diesel (I hope they are right) ,lambda,swirl, injection phase etc etc
you could give it a okkiata and tell me what is good and not?
I have loaded and I have to say that the car goes better with the other map.No smoke!
Regarding the clutch slip , if it sank to 2000 a little slide...if accellero gradually the car is fine and you get a good progression.
then I should probably lower the torque between 2000 and 3000 rpm right? or if I drive without sinking, I could leave it as is?
The other thing I noticed...after 3000 rpm the car pulls but I would like the tachometer to go up faster,and more fluid, I don't know how to explain it. In this case the parameters are modified to have a faster rise of the rpm from 3000 onwards?
thanks a lot
Have forsaken me... :-(
Maps pedal correct up to a certain point.. not moddare out of rpm.. not get over 5000rpm..
You did wrong in the map conversion nm/iq figured these so that the meaning.. sbragale all and leave them owers that you would do better.. the map nm/iq has been calculated to 100mm3.. so.. LET it GOLD!
1c4b06 and sister are useless, put them so that the egr are the other 2 and not and are mod ok.
1cb922 wrong.. the maximum value is 10000 and you are above 280
1cbcba what is it ? Return it ori
Torque limiter wrong very..
some limiters to iq 100mm3 ok
1cf3ec totally wrong, moddi to 100mm3, and then cuts this way? makes no sense.. especially you left ori the other limiter immediately after..
advances let them ori
and also the times at the moment.. dedicated to the rest that you made a casino in the middle ages!
They seem more hands on this map.. made incomplete by someone and destroyed by you.. am I wrong? (1e1592 is proof of that..)
Parts from a file ORI from scratch and do step by step so that you don't learn anything and don't understand anything..
on edc16 YOU have to CALCULATE the increments and not to make bases of limitation and then give diesel oil as on edc15 (there is the person who does so..)
I hope that help and make you understand how to learn
hello
Maps pedal correct up to a certain point.. not moddare out of rpm.. not get over 5000rpm..
You did wrong in the map conversion nm/iq figured these so that the meaning.. sbragale all and leave them owers that you would do better.. the map nm/iq has been calculated to 100mm3.. so.. LET it GOLD!
1c4b06 and sister are useless, put them so that the egr are the other 2 and not and are mod ok.
1cb922 wrong.. the maximum value is 10000 and you are above 280
1cbcba what is it ? Return it ori
Torque limiter wrong very..
some limiters to iq 100mm3 ok
1cf3ec totally wrong, moddi to 100mm3, and then cuts this way? makes no sense.. especially you left ori the other limiter immediately after..
advances let them ori
and also the times at the moment.. dedicated to the rest that you made a casino in the middle ages!
They seem more hands on this map.. made incomplete by someone and destroyed by you.. am I wrong? (1e1592 is proof of that..)
Parts from a file ORI from scratch and do step by step so that you don't learn anything and don't understand anything..
on edc16 YOU have to CALCULATE the increments and not to make bases of limitation and then give diesel oil as on edc15 (there is the person who does so..)
I hope that help and make you understand how to learn
hello
I hope I'm moving in the right direction
map 1CBCBA correct
map 1CB922 correct
map 1CF3EC correct. Was increased to 5%! Are maps of the limiter diesel right? The fix goes well also included a map of the limiter next time?
map 1E1592 what's the use? and you let ORI or change? If so, how?
what is the map conversion nm/iq on ecm titanium? to that address? and how does it change?
thanks
I hope I'm moving in the right direction
map 1CBCBA correct
map 1CB922 correct
map 1CF3EC correct. Was increased to 5%! Are maps of the limiter diesel right? The fix goes well also included a map of the limiter next time?
map 1E1592 what's the use? and you let ORI or change? If so, how?
what is the map conversion nm/iq on ecm titanium? to that address? and how does it change?
thanks
But it takes so long to understand that the limiters iq should not be increased to a percentage?? Are mm3 and you have to set them to the iq max that you want to achieve, but that leads to having to change all the BP in mm3 of the axes and recalculate the columns to the right of the Z-axis . You have been recommended from the beginning to proceed step by step and try. If not then you want to make tests, please contact the online service, and you are going to buy a map already made.
I hope I'm moving in the right direction
map 1CBCBA correct
map 1CB922 correct
map 1CF3EC correct. Was increased to 5%! Are maps of the limiter diesel right? The fix goes well also included a map of the limiter next time?
map 1E1592 what's the use? and you let ORI or change? If so, how?
what is the map conversion nm/iq on ecm titanium? to that address? and how does it change?
thanks
The limiters edit them in 2D without a percentage like you are saying the colleague and r5.. you have to understand the correlation between the maps...
That pedal is the map that has as values in the Z-axis the nm and arriving at 500 (ratio 0.1 mi, then, seems 5000). This is the you have to leave ORI saw that already delivers the IQ..
Begins to load the map and do a log and see what are you doing.. Ti straconsiglio highly recommend performing calculations in the table with excel and not to do to cazzum % as having no memory pv, I doubt that you remember how much pressure you have a value X with respect to rpm and similar...
The limiters edit them in 2D without a percentage like you are saying the colleague and r5.. you have to understand the correlation between the maps...
That pedal is the map that has as values in the Z-axis the nm and arriving at 500 (ratio 0.1 mi, then, seems 5000). This is the you have to leave ORI saw that already delivers the IQ..
Begins to load the map and do a log and see what are you doing.. Ti straconsiglio highly recommend performing calculations in the table with excel and not to do to cazzum % as having no memory pv, I doubt that you remember how much pressure you have a value X with respect to rpm and similar...
Ok. Anyway, the limiters 1CF3EC I edited in 2d. Not as a percentage. Not going well for you?
And the rest that I've corrected below suggestion is not good now?
Definitely procederó for degrees, but at least I would like to understand if the latest fixes that are made are good. And the map 1E1592 I did not understand if I have to leave the ori or not. Thanks for the patience
Returned from the file ori,
If you remove the egr, decide how much IQ you want to get, you systems maps the pedal, set the Rail and turbo and all the limiters and without doing anything else e-mail the file.
Returned from the file ori,
If you remove the egr, decide how much IQ you want to get, you systems maps the pedal, set the Rail and turbo and all the limiters and without doing anything else e-mail the file.
I will however I ask you the courtesy to tell me at least if the maps limiters 1CF3EC now are good and if the rest was also correct well.So I begin to understand the logic to proceed from scratch.thanks a lot
I will however I ask you the courtesy to tell me at least if the maps limiters 1CF3EC now are good and if the rest was also correct well.So I begin to understand the logic to proceed from scratch.thanks a lot
The problem is that there is no logic in the map is made so..
I'll explain the step initial so you start to make it from scratch with the policy.
step1: decide how much IQ (mm3) you want to get basing thoughts and calculations on how much air you have (MAF) with the stoichiometric value (a 14.5:1)
step2: modify the map nm/iq for achievement of desires, but in your case you have already 100mm3 so you don't have to touch it
step3: change the map the pedal to give the nm about the iq you want
step4: modify the map rail by increasing the demand of the new iq
step4: modify the turbo in order to fulfill the new request iq
step5: change all the limiters iq, rail, turbo and anything else to fulfill the request of the mod to %, but giving the values defined on a scale of rpm, iq, or pressure.
step6: turn off the EGR
Done this mail the result.
The order is not important, but you only defines the steps to perform..
In theory divresti also arrange the lambda, but the one we see in the possima bet.
Your map has no logic, you don't know as much as you want to get, and with how much pressure the rail, you have not calculated anything in order to determine any time and advances and then they envince that:
the map is made badly and you can't expect that to be viewed by wasting their time to people who have nothing else to do..
Do the steps and post the result if you want to be helped, throws it in the toilet that map, and do step by step.
If you do not push the head beyond the not understand a damn.. enjoy only half!
thanks for the tips.
However, I would like to make you a partaker of a thing, but just to see if to trust or not what it says on the web. Anything away from those who have the patience to give some tips that you definitely are in good faith and constructive. But, unfortunately, there are too many conflicting opinions and the inexperienced people should obviously be in confusion.
The attached map has been purchased...I repeat "PURCHASED" !!Of course, I would never say who did it out of respect for the user and I do not want that others can copy it for free, so much the spirit of a forum is to help each other right?... even if it is not always the case!!!
The problem is that this map I had already been torn to pieces long ago. Reading on all the forums , I have never seen that someone said : "this map should be good," and applies not only to the map by me attached, but for all the maps that people attach hoping to get constructive suggestions. Then check the rabbit from the hat and tells you in private :"if you want a map good , where the car goes very well and in safety , you can do that, but I pay"
About, precisely, the attached map and "PAID" when I decided to defappare the drive physically with a straight pipe and electronically , a guy who works for a dealership, alpha , has had the kind patience of disattivarmi regeneration and show me some retouching to the map.
From then on, I have come to the current map certainly wrong, but some have said that is not too bad, others that it is by trashing.
I'd like to know who is right or wrong but I think it will be impossible.
Only ones anyone to post a map "PAID" and the only ones all the mappers to postarne a FREE
so then will be torn to pieces regardless.
sorry for the outburst, however, there is too much confusion
Resigned that any work you see done also by the designer bosch directly, they will always have comments to make..
both for envy and for different points of view.. everyone in the end change the ecu to the modus operandi of how to derive logically/illogically increases.
My opinion of course, and here someone will say: BUT THAT s**t you SAY?!?!!?
This is a map soft.. increased but have not changed many bp of iq that is stopping 75mm3 then from the pedal does not fulfill the total demand of the map conversion nm/iq.
You have to know that the maps are of two types with facets..
Informed = to climb on the planks to the request iq and the pressure, and calculated on the new value of the increment
Deceived = does not scale anything, and the false report of inj on time and advances
facet = map soft with nothing of that, only more pedal, more air, but nothing calculated to increase but only more ready
I appreciate the gesture to post the map that you have laudamente paid but, I don't know if you paid much or little, is a map soft with little performance.
My say that your mod was the fruit of two hands and then it is validated, mistakes starting to edit a mod without knowing what criteria is been made.
Trust a concept that is said by those who a little more than a year ago did not even know of the change of the tablets in the car. I do not do the mechanical work within the framework.. are computer information security and are passionate about little this way, then trust...
Throw everything in the toilet and parts from the file ori, do the steps said and begin to understand how and what to do, learn to bring the tables of the maps on the excel file, and correlates the accounts for the increment between the map relating to and you'll see that the view you add to much more easily..
I have personally banged my head for months before you understand how they work and there are those who can say, even if you still do not believe that I have made maps of all of the above is by changing maps and curves without damos with policy, solely on the basis of its decimal values of the curves according to zones.
Brings patience and committed and you will see great results
thanks for the tips.
However, I would like to make you a partaker of a thing, but just to see if to trust or not what it says on the web. Anything away from those who have the patience to give some tips that you definitely are in good faith and constructive. But, unfortunately, there are too many conflicting opinions and the inexperienced people should obviously be in confusion.
The attached map has been purchased...I repeat "PURCHASED" !!Of course, I would never say who did it out of respect for the user and I do not want that others can copy it for free, so much the spirit of a forum is to help each other right?... even if it is not always the case!!!
The problem is that this map I had already been torn to pieces long ago. Reading on all the forums , I have never seen that someone said : "this map should be good," and applies not only to the map by me attached, but for all the maps that people attach hoping to get constructive suggestions. Then check the rabbit from the hat and tells you in private :"if you want a map good , where the car goes very well and in safety , you can do that, but I pay"
About, precisely, the attached map and "PAID" when I decided to defappare the drive physically with a straight pipe and electronically , a guy who works for a dealership, alpha , has had the kind patience of disattivarmi regeneration and show me some retouching to the map.
From then on, I have come to the current map certainly wrong, but some have said that is not too bad, others that it is by trashing.
I'd like to know who is right or wrong but I think it will be impossible.
Only ones anyone to post a map "PAID" and the only ones all the mappers to postarne a FREE
so then will be torn to pieces regardless.
sorry for the outburst, however, there is too much confusion
I quoto munro who has the answer on page 4 message #38..
with a little study, logic and patience of the systems, is only to understand what you want to achieve and the clutch when you change it..
there are a lot of mods useless beyond that start at 400 rpm with increments etc.,
Just to understand how to move... the slippage of The clutch, the wear and tear, is depended only on how you made the map "torque limiter", or also depends on other maps? If ok what would they be?
Slippage depends, apart from the mechanical wear and tear, from the map the torque (pedal) and not by the limiter, which, if not required, the IQ top of the limiter, does not influence any parameter, but leaves the greater range increase on any other changes you no go retouch.
Slippage depends, apart from the mechanical wear and tear, from the map the torque (pedal) and not by the limiter, which, if not required, the IQ top of the limiter, does not influence any parameter, but leaves the greater range increase on any other changes you no go retouch.
Ok thanks for the straight
I quoto munro who has the answer on page 4 message #38..
with a little study, logic and patience of the systems, is only to understand what you want to achieve and the clutch when you change it..
there are a lot of mods useless beyond that start at 400 rpm with increments etc.,
Just to understand how to move... the slippage of The clutch, the wear and tear, is depended only on how you made the map "torque limiter", or also depends on other maps? If ok what would they be?
You argue in a way all your own..
if you have a problem on the car why not the systems, instead of sneaking around that you lose time?
and known to already have issues with the clutch etc, and how to make a map on a engine time..
the pane to the file..
open the file and scroll through the mod, before you find the "required torque blablabla" will have something not right?
perhaps starting modare already 400RPM increments of 21%?
Correction Diesel 1C1F86 ditto with increments exaggerated, turbo as from 150p idem on this map
1CBA82 put ori
1CBCF8 put ori the BP system and the lim with policy 410RPM?
"1816,7"can never be correct that request? Midnight
1D061E-1D112C put ori
1DC0E0 too soon
1DF642 put ori the fix possibly after a trip
1DFB0A idem
1E0EE6 too soon I would stop to 2500mbar calculates you
1E1370 idem
1E3164-1E3304 Booo
1E682A I don't think I need to tell you now what to do no? I advise you to not go over 1650
1E6362 copy increments from the one above
1E682A copy increments from the one above
1E6BC6-1E6D30 use the head and by 50-100 in most of the pressure previously required
make a file that let's look at it another is as
Kills how to write complicated is Worth..
In other words?
Kills how to write complicated is Worth..
In other words?
Ahahahhaha.. You are right, Cosimo!
In summary:
More torque at low = more fuel in = more stress to the flywheel
You argue in a way all your own..
if you have a problem on the car why not the systems, instead of sneaking around that you lose time?
and known to already have issues with the clutch etc, and how to make a map on a engine time..
the pane to the file..
open the file and scroll through the mod, before you find the "required torque blablabla" will have something not right?
perhaps starting modare already 400RPM increments of 21%?
Correction Diesel 1C1F86 ditto with increments exaggerated, turbo as from 150p idem on this map
1CBA82 put ori
1CBCF8 put ori the BP system and the lim with policy 410RPM?
"1816,7"can never be correct that request? Midnight
1D061E-1D112C put ori
1DC0E0 too soon
1DF642 put ori the fix possibly after a trip
1DFB0A idem
1E0EE6 too soon I would stop to 2500mbar calculates you
1E1370 idem
1E3164-1E3304 Booo
1E682A I don't think I need to tell you now what to do no? I advise you to not go over 1650
1E6362 copy increments from the one above
1E682A copy increments from the one above
1E6BC6-1E6D30 use the head and by 50-100 in most of the pressure previously required
make a file that let's look at it another is as
Actually, many points I've not understood... I'll be inexperienced but you can be more precise and clear? Of course, many thanks that thou hast lost and spent quality time with my map
Well, obvious, but if you have a pedal that, for example, requires 550nm-100mm3 at 1750 laps, but those laps in the various limiters you are firm to 50mm3(always numbers) to the clutch there is no problem..
Boys to edit a mod on edc16, which has not done the calculations, it does not help..
If the user is not part of the file ori does not see the BP ori and not defines the increases in what are referred to (z-axis), can raise or lower to cazUm any thing, but will never understand what it is doing in relation to what..
Maxgen if they trust you, do those damn step as said above, leave it alone advances, and the times and post something that makes sense.
In the first place, Set the IQ to as much as you want to get to and from them do the rest. If you continue to farneticare changes to that map doesn't come to anything, even a thing.. you Learn the ECM.. Already is something but a few things.. Make a nice excel table, copy the maps, insert new rows in the table and the scale of the BP.
If you accept it is a good advice.. Then obviously you're ****** deciding on the road ahead but the one joke is not the best on these ECU.
Fate vobis
Boys to edit a mod on edc16, which has not done the calculations, it does not help..
If the user is not part of the file ori does not see the BP ori and not defines the increases in what are referred to (z-axis), can raise or lower to cazUm any thing, but will never understand what it is doing in relation to what..
Maxgen if they trust you, do those damn step as said above, leave it alone advances, and the times and post something that makes sense.
In the first place, Set the IQ to as much as you want to get to and from them do the rest. If you continue to farneticare changes to that map doesn't come to anything, even a thing.. you Learn the ECM.. Already is something but a few things.. Make a nice excel table, copy the maps, insert new rows in the table and the scale of the BP.
If you accept it is a good advice.. Then obviously you're ****** deciding on the road ahead but the one joke is not the best on these ECU.
Fate vobis
Hello, I have not had time to devote myself to the Map. What I would like to ask for starting from scratch, and I hope I do not ask so much, if I posted a base Map where I set up, changed, only the map IQ according to the logic right and then I will from this point start to modify accordingly all the rest.thanks
If you do not learn to read the original file and explain to me what you understand about a modified file?
You have to read the IQ, the bar, mm3, report nm on IQ, afr...
You have a way to go before you reach a BP..
Studies chebsu these ECU there are info in spades in the forum, especially on the 147, 159 and the like..
If you do not learn to read the original file and explain to me what you understand about a modified file?
You have to read the IQ, the bar, mm3, report nm on IQ, afr...
You have a way to go before you reach a BP..
Studies chebsu these ECU there are info in spades in the forum, especially on the 147, 159 and the like..
I asked just To see your map iq is modified, and from them study on how to adapt everything.. I don't think I have asked nothing exceptional. It is only a courtesy that I ask.
Hello, I have not had time to devote myself to the Map. What I would like to ask for starting from scratch, and I hope I do not ask so much, if I posted a base Map where I set up, changed, only the map IQ according to the logic right and then I will from this point start to modify accordingly all the rest.thanks
what you have assumed to do, the entire map is not that you can only do one thing...the maps are linked to all of them
it is not that there is only one map IQ, there are also limitations, and it is 50% of the work practically, the response of the tranky has not been a response veiled way to say "you can't have the jelly ready"
don't take it, it is as difficult as speech, already thinks that each one follows different logics to make a map, then the advice is to study for your logic, if this is your goal, because if you are from the "already done" however, there you would understand if you do not sbattendoci the head from you
what you have assumed to do, the entire map is not that you can only do one thing...the maps are linked to all of them
it is not that there is only one map IQ, there are also limitations, and it is 50% of the work practically, the response of the tranky has not been a response veiled way to say "you can't have the jelly ready"
don't take it, it is as difficult as speech, already thinks that each one follows different logics to make a map, then the advice is to study for your logic, if this is your goal, because if you are from the "already done" however, there you would understand if you do not sbattendoci the head from you
I understand it perfectly, but I in fact meant only one Map iq, and from there do all the rest... I do Not ask for 50% of the mapping, we need each other and from the Map ori have only one change as a starting point I don't think jelly ready because if you do not study you will not be able to change with logic, all the rest.
Among other things, I've posted a Map made by a tuner that I paid and I did not imported that others can copy. Then I ask for a Map of departure and tell me that I want the soup ready? ... The spirit of the forum is to help each other... my of course is not a tone of polemic to the contrary.
I understand it perfectly, but I in fact meant only one Map iq, and from there do all the rest... I do Not ask for 50% of the mapping, we need each other and from the Map ori have only one change as a starting point I don't think jelly ready because if you do not study you will not be able to change with logic, all the rest.
Among other things, I've posted a Map made by a tuner that I paid and I did not imported that others can copy. Then I ask for a Map of departure and tell me that I want the soup ready? ... The spirit of the forum is to help each other... my of course is not a tone of polemic to the contrary.
to help you appropriately map IQ requires a map almost finished. There is only one map IQ, there are some
and anyway, I can't help you for the moment because I can not download file
hello guys...I try to learn more and more...
a question...I have read that by bringing to zero, these 4 maps strives less the turbine when driving the car with the pedal constantly...for example on the motorway.
in practice, the pressure remains low, encouraging the less precisely the turbine.And is it true?
I do not see the attachment but I think you refer to the maps of the management of the vgt and the answer is no for a number of reasons:
1) what is the meaning of reset to solicit less the turbine?what wears down the turbine areas are operating out of his range
2) what is the meaning of reset if in so doing close the management variable and probably doesn't open up more!
3) even if it worked your reasoning, what is the meaning of reset to achieve equal IQ pressure more low, and then putting the mixture and consuming more?
ragionaci on and let me know
I do not see the attachment but I think you refer to the maps of the management of the vgt and the answer is no for a number of reasons:
1) what is the meaning of reset to solicit less the turbine?what wears down the turbine areas are operating out of his range
2) what is the meaning of reset if in so doing close the management variable and probably doesn't open up more!
3) even if it worked your reasoning, what is the meaning of reset to achieve equal IQ pressure more low, and then putting the mixture and consuming more?
ragionaci on and let me know
I don't know if they are maps of the vgt. Someone, I suggested he said that there are variations in power and fuel economy. IT lowers the turbo pressure only when you should be constants, but once you press the accelerator, the pressure increases as set out in the map
I don't know if they are maps of the vgt. Someone, I suggested he said that there are variations in power and fuel economy. IT lowers the turbo pressure only when you should be constants, but once you press the accelerator, the pressure increases as set out in the map
are maps relief with the axis iq (mm3) regarding the threshold for intervention in the transition from normal conditions to regeneration. I do not think your handmaid, touching. Indeed, it would be interesting to put them to zero in on a car that still has the dpf and see what happens, because on those defappate I think they are disabled.
Anyway, the four maps starting from the address 1E3198
are maps relief with the axis iq (mm3) regarding the threshold for intervention in the transition from normal conditions to regeneration. I do not think your handmaid, touching. Indeed, it would be interesting to put them to zero in on a car that still has the dpf and see what happens, because on those defappate I think they are disabled.
I did the test... Before a 130km/h, the hand on the turbo was steady on 1/1.2 bar. Now 130km/h is decreased to 0.6/0.8 bar. Then work to change these maps in spite of the machine is already defappata?
I did the test... Before a 130km/h, the hand on the turbo was steady on 1/1.2 bar. Now 130km/h is decreased to 0.6/0.8 bar. Then work to change these maps in spite of the machine is already defappata?
It is interesting the thing, but you have to be sure to do that test on the same stretch of road with the same slope and the same percentage of pedal....if we have not a moment to endorse the values. Better yet, record a log with the mod and without the mod (of course only those maps need to be different the rest all the same)
It is interesting the thing, but you have to be sure to do that test on the same stretch of road with the same slope and the same percentage of pedal....if we have not a moment to endorse the values. Better yet, record a log with the mod and without the mod (of course only those maps need to be different the rest all the same)
Yes I changed only the four maps... the rest all The same. The fact to record a log I am not able to... To the limit if someone offers to do the test would be a pleasure for all
I also believe that if this change is actually effective, WILL reduce the stress on the turbine and the fuel consumption right?
I also believe that if this change is actually effective, WILL reduce the stress on the turbine and the fuel consumption right?
The stress of the turbine, I know not to answer, on the fuel consumption I would say no. Have 0,6/0,8 pressure turbo or 1/1,2 means only entering less air in the cylinder but the amount of fuel injected if it is not changed (in other maps) remains the same, and therefore the consumption is the same. Just the AFR is more "rich".
I have tested multiple times and actually leading to zero those four maps, the turbo pressure is lower when you are traveling with the pedal constant. I think that the face only good.
now I would like to ask you another thing...the map enclosed in the matter how it's put to ****llo turbo? in the sense.. is too high for the turbo or so are quiet?I'm not interested in the rest, I would like to know only this is to understand if it is the case of lower value.
I wonder why the whistle of the turbine is increased slightly and I don't want to harm you. The machine cmq has 214000km .
thanks
the map ori is at the beginning of the post
I look forward to the news. Thanks
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